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post #2461 of 10228
Wow, was not expecting a response that fast. Here is what he repsonded with:

"We are in the process of making samples to test on receivers. We have had a lot of people looking for recievers to work with yamaha,harmon ,and now Dennon. It might be a couple month before we have any in stock"
post #2462 of 10228
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Originally Posted by headcheese_bbq View Post

Thinking about picking up a Denon 3311CI NIB from a private sale for $700. I was contemplating an Onkyo 1007, but this is looking pretty sweet. Any thoughts from you 3311 owners out there?

wow, i was about to get the 3310 for $100 less. How private is the sale? local or internet based?
post #2463 of 10228
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Originally Posted by vince0312 View Post

That's great to hear from previous UMC-1 owner, in terms of SQ I am expecting Marantz AV7005 would do the same if not better(not by a lot as some people estimate Marantz AV7005 is similar to Denon 33xx but more refined). Can't wait to hear from you tomorrow with the kill-a-watt

I have read some comparisons between Marantz SR7005 and the Denon AVR 3311ci. I realized the following specs on the company's websites:

Marantz SR7005
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- Power Output (8 Ohm) 125W (20Hz - 20kHz, 0.08% THD, 2ch driven) x7
- S/N 85db

Denon AVR 3311ci
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- Power Output (8 Ohm) 125W (20Hz - 20kHz, 0.05% THD, 2ch driven) x7
- S/N 100db

I am not an expert, but when I look to these specs, it appears to me that the 3311 is a little bit better. Any clues regarding the reasons the SR7005 is more expensive beyond the better design it has?

cjayme
post #2464 of 10228
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Originally Posted by e2g_ View Post

wow, i was about to get the 3310 for $100 less. How private is the sale? local or internet based?

Local
post #2465 of 10228
Still working on my new AVR-991. I traded up from an AVR-3802 and thought I understood how Denons work. I was mistaken. Three questions from someone who is completely lost after having read the manual from cover to cover. BTW Who wrote this thing? It's worse than my AVR-3802 manual, and that's going some.

1. I erased some of the inputs thinking I wasn't going to need them. Stupid. Problem is, now I need to get them back. I've tried every menu I can find. No luck. Anybody know how to restore the deleted inputs?

2. Every input is set to "Cinema" whether it's Dolby or DTS . I know how to change the surround parameters but cannot figure out how to make them change to "Music" on my phono input or any other for that matter.

3. When I am on the Phono input all I get on the screen is the Denon screen. I cannot get Menu to come up. Any suggestions?

Thanks for helping.

BTW Never did get the ARC working. Ran an optical cable to the TV.
post #2466 of 10228
1. p. 84
2. p. 43
3. Press the AMP button first, then press MENU.

For ARC to work, HDMI Control must be set to ON and the HDMI-CEC feature in the TV must also be set to ON.
post #2467 of 10228
Thanks JD. I'll give it a try.

As far as the ARC, I tried that. Unfortunately it messed up my standby pass through. Never did get any audio from the ARC. Is the receiver supposed to be set to any particular input for ARC to work?
post #2468 of 10228
There in lies the rub ... with some HDTVs, you can have either the pass-through or ARC but not both at the same time.
post #2469 of 10228
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Originally Posted by akbungle View Post

I replaced my UMC-1 with the 3311 and so far have been quite pleased. I can't image the Denon actually putting out 650W but if that is the case and the Marantz runs at 60W then I will be very displeased as this thought never even occurred to me and I am, when possible, tryng to reduce my energy consumption. I will be getting a Kill-A-Watt device shipped to me by tomorrow and while I've never used one before I should be able to figure it out rather quickly and wil report back my findings.

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Originally Posted by vince0312 View Post

That's great to hear from previous UMC-1 owner, in terms of SQ I am expecting Marantz AV7005 would do the same if not better(not by a lot as some people estimate Marantz AV7005 is similar to Denon 33xx but more refined). Can't wait to hear from you tomorrow with the kill-a-watt

Well I received The Kill-A-Watt today and it looks like a range from 85 watts with volume all down and up to 96 watts at Ref 0 volume level and they varied between those two ratings but 96 was the highest rating I got. Still not as good as 60W from the Marantz but nowhere near 650W. So it looks like jdsmoothie was pretty on target with the under 100W statement but it does hover around 90W even using it as just a processor.
post #2470 of 10228
Hey guys, got my 3311CI today, loving it so far. I have gone through the room calibration, and everything seems to be functioning correctly. I have one question though. I'm running an external NAD S200 stereo amplifier, rated at 225w continuous a side. Everything sounds amazing, though I'm having to crank the volume up to +5 to get ballsy....thats way too high. Is there a source level adjust or a db pad enabled for pre outs? -10 should rock my roof. At least thats what my Yamaha rx-v2400 thats being replaced did. Any thoughts gentlemen? Thanks!
post #2471 of 10228
Have you run audyssey?

Who cares what the number was on your yamaha? It's not really relevant. All that matters is that u can cleanly hit the volume you desire.
post #2472 of 10228
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Have you run audyssey?

Who cares what the number was on your yamaha? It's not really relevant. All that matters is that u can cleanly hit the volume you desire.

Yes but it is a little dishearting to have to crank the volume to such an extreme, don't you think?
I liked the 1 o'clock blasting volume position of old

DreamCatcher
post #2473 of 10228
Everybody with an android phone or that fruity one, just found this:
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/an...nts.php?aid=48

Really cool app to play music to your denon, it even powers up the denon.
You can stream music from your network, the internet and even from your phone itself. And you can control it all from your phone.
(no popcorn required).
post #2474 of 10228
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Originally Posted by akbungle View Post

Well I received The Kill-A-Watt today and it looks like a range from 85 watts with volume all down and up to 96 watts at Ref 0 volume level and they varied between those two ratings but 96 was the highest rating I got. Still not as good as 60W from the Marantz but nowhere near 650W. So it looks like jdsmoothie was pretty on target with the under 100W statement but it does hover around 90W even using it as just a processor.

Awesome! Thank you and now it just makes my decision harder to lean towards Marantz(Denon's price is just half of it with AirTune). I could use the extra money to get another pair speakers to finish 7.1 instead
Before I make this final decision I'm probably just gonna go listen to SR7005 tomorrow and set my mind on Denon 3311 unless it blows me away(which I doubt it would with such similar design)
post #2475 of 10228
I received my 3311ci on 10/5/10, set it up yesterday, 10/7/10, and am absolutely amazed at the visual and audio improvements. This receiver rocks!

My system consists of a Direct TV (Motorola) HR20 set top box, Sony BDPs350 bluray, a Denon DCM280 CD, a Pioneer PDP5020, and a 3.0 KEF XQ speaker setup (I will be purchasing a subwoofer soon, and surrounds later). All work well with amazing results.

All sources and the TV are attached with HDMI connectors, and I have not experienced any HDMI handshake issues. After reading this forum for months now the potential for handshake issues concerned me greatly.

I have not connected to the network yet and thus have not updated the FW, more on that later. I also have not run Audyssey yet, but will today or this weekend.

As this is my first AVR I still have much to learn in order to make this system mine. I am sure I will be back with questions.

Maybe the best thing about this HT journey is that after talking about this for months, purchasing a TV, a Bluray, speakers, and now the 3311 my wife yesterday agreed that the system is amazing. LOL.

Thanks to all of the great advice, comments, and humor from those on this thread especially Batpig, and JD. Your knowledge and willingness to share is much appreciated.
post #2476 of 10228
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Have you run audyssey?

Who cares what the number was on your yamaha? It's not really relevant. All that matters is that u can cleanly hit the volume you desire.

Yes, I said I ran audyssey room calibration in the post. And that's not all that matters...since vol level is relevant, at 225w a channel, I shouldn't have to crank 3/4 of the way for adequate volume...Anyway I've solved the problem. There is in fact a source level control under input options. You can adjust incoming analogue and digital source levels from any input.
post #2477 of 10228
Is anyone running their 3311 in conjunction with the DVP-602ci? Are there any known problems with the two? I am *this* close to picking up the 3311 to replace another AVR that will NOT play nicely with the 602. Any advise would be appreciated.
post #2478 of 10228
I'm trying to play .mp3's from my home computer. The Denon is hooked via wire and and can see my computer.

When I choose Media Server, I can see the name of my computer, but it says "Not Authorized"

I am running Windows 7 on my home computer. I setup a folder and setup sharing on the folder.

Can anyone help?

Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out. Had to add device as authorized under Windows Media Player.
post #2479 of 10228
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Originally Posted by banzai75x View Post

I'm trying to play .mp3's from my home computer. The Denon is hooked via wire and and can see my computer.

When I choose Media Server, I can see the name of my computer, but it says "Not Authorized"

I am running Windows 7 on my home computer. I setup a folder and setup sharing on the folder.

Can anyone help?

Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out. Had to add device as authorized under Windows Media Player.

post #2480 of 10228
I have a pair of Polk TSi500s and I am looking for a receiver that will work well in a 2.0 set up. I had problem with a Pioneer VSX 1020K, it produced very little low end frequencies on my speakers no matter what I did on the set up. I noticed 991 user manual talks about 2.0 set up. I am wondering how it would sound with such a set up. I would love to hear from those of you who are using their amp with front speakers only and how they sound with CD or iPod music.
post #2481 of 10228
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Originally Posted by nutsandbolts View Post

I have a pair of Polk TSi500s and I am looking for a receiver that will work well in a 2.0 set up. I had problem with a Pioneer VSX 1020K, it produced very little low end frequencies on my speakers no matter what I did on the set up. I noticed 991 user manual talks about 2.0 set up. I am wondering how it would sound with such a set up. I would love to hear from those of you who are using their amp with front speakers only and how they sound with CD or iPod music.

I have the 3311ci and am using it with a pair of paradigm studio 10 speakers. Sounds fantastic. I started to buy an integrated amp and was talked out of it by some here as I had not yet tried audyssey on my older 789. I was so impressed I dropped the idea of an integrated amp and upgraded to the 3311. The studio 10s have great base response for a bookshelf and the 3311 ci doesn't disappoint. I would think the base response with the tsi 500s would be nice. They can take a lot of power and I might be tempted to try reassigning the rear surrounds to front and biamp the 500s.
post #2482 of 10228
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I have the 3311ci and am using it with a pair of paradigm studio 10 speakers. Sounds fantastic. I started to buy an integrated amp and was talked out of it by some here as I had not yet tried audyssey on my older 789. I was so impressed I dropped the idea of an integrated amp and upgraded to the 3311. The studio 10s have great base response for a bookshelf and the 3311 ci doesn't disappoint. I would think the base response with the tsi 500s would be nice. They can take a lot of power and I might be tempted to try reassigning the rear surrounds to front and biamp the 500s.

Thanks glanford, yes I would be using the bi-amping option with the 500s. Yeah the 500s can handle a lot of power, the manual recommends an amp rated 30 to 270 Watts. I need to go and take a closer look at the 3311 and 991. I hope my local BB store has them on display.
post #2483 of 10228
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

They can take a lot of power and I might be tempted to try reassigning the rear surrounds to front and biamp the 500s.

Keep in mind that as there is only a single power supply, you gain no real additional power to the speakers. This is one of the reasons that passive bi-amping generally shows no real positive results.
post #2484 of 10228
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Originally Posted by lugduffy View Post

I've had the 3311ci for about 3 weeks and it has been working normal until today. Now it is unable to connect to the internet and freezes trying to "please wait connecting." I am able to ping the Denon from a networked PC on the lan, but that's about it. Also I can't access the network connecting menu. I am familiar with the network card problem on the 3310ci, I'll be disappointed to see if if this is the case with the 3311ci? The other devices on my network are working fine. The cat5e cable connecting the Denon to my network tests normal. The router is set to use DHCP and Auto IP. Does anyone have any ideas what could be the problem other than a bad network card? The firmware version is the version prior to the one released yesterday.

I have this problem occasionally. I have to unplug it and plug it back in and then it works fine for another month or so.
post #2485 of 10228
Wouldn't their marketing dept inform them that most customers really enjoyed seeing that pretty light, even if it is a little meaningless.
post #2486 of 10228
The 3311 rocks but the TBS announcers suck and I tried to listen to the LOCAL broadcast over the internet for the PHILLIES last night. Sort of a pain as I didn't have the patience to do BATPIGS "Mixing" of audio and video signals.

Disconnected the HDMI from the cable box to AVR, ran direct to TV then tried the NET USB audio only to learn that the LICENSING agreement between MLB and XM precludes the local station from running their feed of baseball over the internet.

Note: if you want to do this with UNLICENSED content be sure to tune the NETUSB station first as you will lose the GUI when bypassing the AVR. Also, unless you have assigned the NETUSB signals to MEMORY PRESETs you will not find them on the 3311 front panel display. Even though I thought that I would find them in FAVORITES, or RECENT channels, I could not access them.

Ended up going back to the TBS guys. BUT, I now realize that I need to get a better AM signal to the 3311 if I want to even consider "MIXING" signals.

Anyone have an idea on how to get a better AM signal to the 3311?

Thanks, Robotten
post #2487 of 10228
Well, I finally traced it to a bad amp in the sub. Thx again.



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Originally Posted by Jonesky View Post

It appears my sub is no longer working in the setup. It worked when I originally set it up. All firmware up to date. I am using the 3311 and a 5.1 setup and Aud was used originally.

I have checked the manual and I believe I have everything setup correctly since I thought that somehow the firmware might have reset something. Again I have gone into the menus and checked everything to be setup per the manual.
I have a self powered sub and it is checked on with sby power. And I checked connections good as per the manual. But I noticed that I wasn't getting the low freqs I should get when playing Halo Reach.

So I went into the menu of my 3311 and checked speaker levels and I can get all 5 channels to test tone but not the sub. No matter what I do I cannot get the sub to test tone or work as it just stays on standby.

May I have some troubleshooting tips please before I call Denon or my sub maker?

Thx...
post #2488 of 10228
Question for ya Batpig....I had logitech transfer over your remote codes to my account, all went well. They work great. Except for one that I have a question about. The one called "DolbyPLIICinema" I was under the impression that by assigning that to a button, it would automatically change your decode setting back to (insert track here) + PLII C no matter what decode setting you WERE on.

For instance if you were on DTS HD + PLII M, pushing that button would automatically switch you to DTS HD + PLII C, without having to cycle through the different ones to come back to it. However it does not work for me. I push it, and the sound goes out, and comes back on, but I just remain on whatever decode method I was on to begin with, no matter what that happens to be.
post #2489 of 10228
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Originally Posted by robotten View Post

Ended up going back to the TBS guys. BUT, I now realize that I need to get a better AM signal to the 3311 if I want to even consider "MIXING" signals.

Anyone have an idea on how to get a better AM signal to the 3311?

Are you at least using the AM antenna that came with the AVR? Also, all you need to use Video Select is to connect a component cable from the cable box to the AVR.
post #2490 of 10228
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Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don View Post

For instance if you were on DTS HD + PLII M, pushing that button would automatically switch you to DTS HD + PLII C, without having to cycle through the different ones to come back to it. However it does not work for me. I push it, and the sound goes out, and comes back on, but I just remain on whatever decode method I was on to begin with, no matter what that happens to be.

I'm not familiar with Harmony codes, however, have you tried using it when you have a DTS track actually playing?
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