The **Official** Denon 3311CI/ 991 Owner's Thread NO PRICE TALK - Page 97

Sorry been watching the World Series and first season opener of Dallas Mavericks .

Just tried that now and nothing. Im really starting to get a little frustrated. I do however appreciate everyones help. I have tried a few inputs as well to make sure it isn't the GAME input. I have tried SAT. V.AUX etc. Then plugged in the satellite and DVD blah blah and they worked. I'm drawing a complete blank on this one.

My buddy owns an elite he is going to bring it to me tomorrow to try. I can't help but still think its a minor issue. Im looking for latest firmware updates for the 360 to see if that may be it, but I recall updating it recently.

This could be a HDCP (handshake) issue. Try manually turning on the tv first, then receiver and set to correct input and last xbox 360. Wait a few seconds in between each to allow it to fully come on.

Tried that just now and a no go as well. Im thinking this HAS to be an XBOX issue the more and more I get into it, because EVERYTHING else plugs and plays. Whether its the settings in the xbox itself or who knows. When I called XBOX all they said is "I don't know... doesn't seem right. Maybe google it"

Needless to say I almost threw the phone.

It appears to be a Xbox 360 just not playing well.

Try these steps:
- first turn the xbox off

- turn the xbox on using an Xbox 360 Wireless Controller by using the Xbox Guide button on the controller

- as the console starts, press and hold the Y button, and then pull the right trigger at the same time

- the Xbox Dashboard resets the display settings to the default settings, and then automatically restarts the console

If this don't work I guess hopefully your friend's unit will work.

I just ordered Denon 3311 for 35% off with LSDA1022 at electronicexpo
I also getting KEF iq90 fronts, KEF iq60c, KEF iq30 this week from Vanns.
I also ordered Marantz 8002 (not yet received) but will keep Denon 3311 due to 1.4a capability and networking features.
This is my first high end system. Excited and awaiting for them.

Tried everything (I think) even a firmware update that failed.

ughh...

With notice of the additional features and delayed release, I was hoping that the $49 fee would give the 3311ci full functionality of the $99 Apple TV.
Too good to be true.

Thanks for the information, though. Can now stop holding my breath for the update. Unlikely to purchase.

+1

Don't they realize that it's an AVR

Uh oh ..... Better get MACO!

Denon's focus with the AVRs tends to be much more heavily weighted on the "A" part, especially considering several of the functions of the ABT chip are not enabled in any model.

@ jdsmoothie: thanks for the hint - I did this before I posted the questions.

As mentioned before I cant find anything concrete about the music streaming using the web interface. In my opinion this functionality is more complex to provide compared to the other settings you usually set by the onscreen display.
For Denon the other settings (like Equalizer, Volume, ...) are known by Denon and can be hard coded. The retrieval of the DLNA Information to identify the different songs and to show them in a dynamical playlist (maybe even with cover prompt) should be a bit more difficult.

As I said, nobody mentioned that he used the web interface for streaming or that he had at least a problem with it. Which leads me to the conclusion, that it doesn't exist.

If there would exist a HTTP API to control the DENON for the music streaming, it would be possible to write a Android app or other extension (one idea would be a plugin for Subsonic (subsonic.org) to use the 3311 as a player)...

If this streaming stuff is possible with the 3311, I'll get one - if not I have to wait for the next version, as I expect that Denon will improve this kind of functionality.

Bye,
Tontaube

You might want to also search the Denon 3310 and Denon 4310 Owner's threads as well. You also might find this info useful regarding the Denon remote app.

jdsmoothie, Thanks for the reply. I had forgotten about the game mode. It seemed to help more than I figured it would. So, what are the downsides of using Game mode and can I use it for more than one input? I looked at the manual and did not notice the answers to these questions.

You should be able to use it for any input. It's main intention is to reduce further video processing to reduce any potentional lag from the source input, although apparently also reduces audio lag between the main and Zone 2 as well.

Thanks jdsmoothie,

that's indeed a usefull link for me. In the description, they mention "content-streaming" and one screenshot shows "Internet Radio / Media Server". As it seam to work with an iPhone app it should be possible to program it for Android as well.

For me quite interesting was one of the comments, that this app didn't work with a 4310. So Denon didn't provide an interface or changed it from the xx10 to the xx11 series.

Thanks for the help - I'm one my way to get my hands on a 3311

Cheers,
Tontaube

I think you should be happy that the market is not expecting consumers to spend $1,000+ on receivers to get functionality that you can pay $99 to get with Apple TV. As much as I enjoy nice audio, Denon, Yamaha, fill-in-the-blank will never be in the forefront of the quickly advancing streaming model. Nor is Apple going to license away it's technology beyond what it's done for Audio. The Apples, Googles and Sonys of the world will dominate and the receiver will always be just a hub to connect everything together.

Are you in Socal? I have experienced something similar to you. I have COX as well and on channels such as ESPN, the ticker tape on the bottom scrolling, seems jittery at times. Also, I noticed when watching football, the action freezes and continues.

I have yet to begun troubleshooting. I was first going to bypass the AVR and go direct to TV via HDMI. But then I would lose sound? Can I hook up an optical cable to the AVR for sound and use HDMI for video to the tv?

Yes, in fact that's what most folks do that are experiencing HDMI handshake issues with their cable or sat box.

Which option would you recommend (assuming both caused no problems)


1. (Cable Box) Component -> AVR, Optical -> AVR
(AVR) HDMI -> TV
2. (Cable Box) HDMI -> TV, Optical -> AVR

I haven't experienced handshake issues, just the jittery issues on some programs.

It's up to you which configuration you choose .. use the component connection if you want the AVR to process the video, however, if you want to be able to use the cable box without the AVR turned ON, you'll want to go with HDMI straight to the TV.

If I have the 3311 with a 7.1 configuration speaker layout (standard 5.1 plus height channels), and am listening to a DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack, how do I choose to engage PLIIz, or if I do not want to have the heights output content, how do I choose to disengage PLIIz? I'm assuming the procedure would be similar for 2 channel CDs, as well, i.e., I want to listen to a CD in direct or stereo (2.1), either with or without PLIIz engaged. I assume it's easy to apply PLIIz? Spoke to two guys at Denon support, and neither was certain, though one said to toggle STANDARD until PLIIz is displayed. Sounds reasonable, but want to see if anyone with the unit has confirmed? I have the 3805 now, and when playing a DD 5.1 soundtrack and pressing STANDARD, it will not toggle to the PLII/Neo6. These modes will be displayed only for 2 channel content. Of course, this is a different receiver than the 3311.

Ok so things have been fine for a few days. Today receiver had been powered off for about 20 hours got home turned it on and Blam.. TV turned on but no sound. Took about 7 mins to come on. Any thoughts what else it could be? This has only happened when going through my cable box... I have it hooked up via HDMI cable.

i still cant put image on the projector using the output 2 from 3311 I´m using a samsung c8000 3d as monitor 1 wich is working fine and i still have a ps3 , a dvd samsung that works as anynet and sky hd.
I also cant setup the audyssey using 7.1 it only test 5.1 never find the surround back speakers

This could be happening because you leave the cable box turned ON all the time. For HDMI handshaking to work properly with an AVR in the middle, usually the cable box should be turned on last, after turning on the TV first and then the AVR. Try turning it OFF before you turn on the TV next time. Your other option which will avoid the HDMI handshake and thus solve your problem is to connect the HDMI from the cable box to the TV and also connect an optical from the cable box to the AVR.

1. Try setting the video resolution to 720p instead of 1080p. If that works, it likely means the HDMI cable you're using is to long. How long is it? Try testing with a shorter (eg. 6') cable and see if that resolves your issue. If yes, you'll either to get a better quality cable or use an HDMI extender to get the signal to the projector.

2. The AMP ASSIGN setting factory default is Zone 2 so if you didn't change that to NORMAL, the AMP ASSIGN/Surr Back speakers would not have been recognized.

@trinifox
try a google for "denon avr control protocol 3311" your first result should be a link for a PDF jammed full of control codes for telnet/rs-232

Hello all,

I am looking at replacing my old 3802 with a 3311. I have a question regarding HDMI and video switching. Can you have the AVR playing music via aux/ipod etc and still have a sat box displaying video on the TV? This assumes the sat is connected to AVR via HDMI. I assume you can manually change it but just wanted to confirm as I like to have audio playing from one source but still have the TV displaying video.

Hope that makes sense!

Hey JD or Batpig, I love the 3311, I've had it for about 2 months now. My biggest problem is the gui, especially related to the search function and the slow response time to commands. Can anything be done? For example, is there somehwere I can pay to upgrade the gui to Denon's next level gui that the higher end units. For example, the most annoying thing is when I try to search for a song/artist on either my connected ipod or my media server. It is so annoyingly slow and clunky... Come to think of it, if the airplay update will improve the navigation capabilities, then the purchase would be worth it.