The **Official** Denon 3311CI/ 991 Owner's Thread NO PRICE TALK - Page 146

just got my new 3311 all setup

question though....

when I listen to pandora, my sub wont kick on.

It works on TV, it hits when I do the audyssey setup....but on pandora it stays in sleep mode.

any ideas?

Make sure your front main speakers are set to SMALL (regardless of whether the Denon set them to LARGE) with a 60hz or 80hz crossover (whichever you prefer best). There is no LFE channel in 2.0 music so the best way the sub will turn on is if it gets the low level bass frequencies originally sent to the speakers set to SMALL.

i figured it would just filter out the frequencies and send everything out below 110 to the sub pre out as well.

i'll try this later and see what i get

not unless you TELL it to

is that what jdsmoothie was referring to or is there something else?

can I get it to do both. see I have infinity IL 50's hooked up to it that have built in subs....I let their internal crossover pull off the speaker wire the frequencies for the bass....so I do have some bass. but when listening to music, Id like my 10" Klipsch to kick on too.

yes that is exactly what JD is talking about. Setting a speaker to SMALL is the way you tell the receiver to redirect bass to the subwoofer.

If you want bass from BOTH the speakers and the sub, you need to change the Sub setting to LFE+MAIN.

Hey Batpig,

I own two Atlantic Technology H-PAS front speakers.

These speakers are very special because it can push
near sub LFE levels through its bottom air channel.

I have these front speakers in addition to a sub.

Now, Atlantic Technology originally told me to set
the front speakers to LARGE (with 80HZ crossover)
to take advantage of the front bass capability plus sub.

Do you think that is the best advice or should I
use the LFE+MAIN settings you suggest?

This may be a hard question to answer if you are not
familiar with the speakers.

Thanks so much!!!

do what sounds best to you. I know you are fascinated by the marketing speak but they are not "very special", they have a specified range of performance just like any other speaker. They go to about 30Hz, meaning you can play them full range if you want to. They are NOT truly "full range" for movies however, as there could be content in the main channels down to 20Hz (or lower).

Personally, I would still set them as small but with a low crossover (40 or 60Hz) because I am confident a dedicated subwoofer will outperform them from 50Hz on down, and otherwise you will be missing some of the lowest bass on movie content. With music, you can run them full range no problem. Remember that your Denon AVR allows you to specify different bass management for multich vs 2-channel, so you can have them at Small/60Hz for movies but Large/LFE+MAIN for 2.1 music.

But do what sounds best to YOU.

I have this same exact issue of the Audyssey Set Up OSD popping up unexpectedly when viewing through this receiver...nothing solves it so far. Tried blowing out the dust in the mic jack (per denon call center) but did not help

Owner's manual p. 116.

Reset the microprocessor.



Owner's manual p. 116.

So if I reset the microprocessor, the problem will be fix?

Perhaps, and if not, you'll know it needs to get repaired. Make sure you save the setup settings though to a PC file (p. 59) before you reset the mp.

Ok, thanks

Well just to save some time for you my 3311 was doing the same thing with audyssey setup popping up and after several microprocessor resets unplugging etc its now at the repair center! There is most definitley some kind of problem and I will post back after the repair.

Well, my 3311 was also purchased new in October 2010. When I left home for a week around Christmas, I unplugged the 3311 and it was working. Came back, plugged it in and later that night, no network traffic.

Same issue with the IP address but no MAC address. Denon tech was no help at all. He told me that I should not read the AVS forum posts because most of these people don't call them to resolve the problem. Why would they?! He was as much help as Brian--my American Bulldog!

All of you with the problem have been lucky. The service center in Atlanta has a 3 to 4 week delay!!

Hey guys I looked/searched this thread and could not find the answer. Hoping the experts here can help me out. While listening to music I'd like to set my Denon to play using my mains AND the subs when in "STEREO" mode, but only use my mains (NO subs) while in "PURE" mode. Is that possible?

Thanks guys!

Hello everyone,

since yesterday I can download a changelog for the Denon AVR-3311 from the European firmware update site (firmware.denon-online.eu). See below.

The interesting thing is: when I press "Status" on my receiver's front panel it shows me, that I have "Main: 00.97". But if I check for a software update, there is none. What's your software version? And is the European model/software different from the American?

^ Thanks for providing the changelog information. I'll update Post #1 with that info. The USA/CA and EU models are different; however, AFAIK, although the firmware numbers are likely the same, the EU updates will sometimes have EU unique fixes in addition to the standard fixes in the USA/CA update.

Although this has been mentioned before, it would be nice if an EU owner could provide the changelog information whenever there is a new update as Denon USA does not currently provide this information. Thanks.

Batpig,

Thank You. And with that in mind would you also
recommend setting the subwoofer setting to LFE+MAIN?

^ The LFE+MAIN setting only applies when the front mains are set to LARGE so if you set them to SMALL it doesn't matter whether the sub is set to LFE or LFE+MAIN.

I got up this morning and turned my receiver on and wanted to go into the menu screen but pressing the menu button did nothing when input source "BD" or "SAT/CBL" was selected. If I went into the "NET/USB" source I was able to access the menu. I selected the "BD" input source again and had to click on the "source select" button to bring up the input source overlay, then right after the overlay came on I pressed the menu button and this time it worked but it was a transparent overlay (not a full screen opaque overlay as it was yesterday). After a couple minutes the overlay changed to a full screen non transparent menu screen like it had been all yesterday. It this a problem or did I do something incorrect. This happened to me yesterday that the menu button seemed to be inoperative but yesterday it cleared and I had assumed I pressed a wrong key.

This has been discussed a couple times this week already. The remote controls 9 different components. The only way it knows you want the AMP menu is to press the AMP button first if you've already used the remote to select another device.

jdsmoothie,

Just looking for the right combination since the
HPAS speakers do handle front bass better than
most other speakers.

I am thinking of keeping them set to LARGE and
just selecting LFE+MAIN to get the best of both worlds.

Doesn't really matter if they handle bass better than other speakers, it's whether they handle bass better than your sub? (on paper they go down to 30hz ... I'm guessing your sub can do better than that). Regardless, if you want to run them LARGE with LFE+MAIN you just get what's known as "double bass".

For those waiting for the airplay upgrade engadget says its now available. http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/d...leased-for-49/

http://shop.denon.com/Airplay-Upgrade-W4.aspx

If you have downloaded this upgrade, please post with your results of how well it works. Thanks.

jdsmoothie,

What is the absolute best settings I should use here?

Obviously the sub is better.

Speakers to small? What would the sub settings be?

Batpig suggested 40 or 60hz. You agree? BTW, what
does the crossover numbers mean?

Thanks for all the help guys.

The absolute best is what you consider the absolute best. Seriously. It's your room dynamics and your ears that are involved so we cannot make that determination for you. What is suggested is setting them to SMALL with a 40hz or 60hz crossover whichever you prefer and if you can't tell a difference set them to 60hz. The crossover directs all frequencies below that number to the sub. So when a full range 20hz-20khz signal is sent to the speaker with a 60hz crossover, then only 60hz-20khz will go to the speaker and anything below 60hz will be redirected to the sub which is better able to process it as well as takes a load off of the AVR as it takes far more power to produce the low bass tones than it does for the upper frequency tones. Generally, you want to set the speaker to at least 10-20hz above whatever the lowest level "on paper" spec is for that speaker.