The **Official** Denon 3311CI/ 991 Owner's Thread NO PRICE TALK - Page 154

It's an HDMI HDCP limitation.

If you assign both cable inputs to the same source name the HDMI input will take priority so it's best to assign the component input to an unused source name (or just remove the HDMI cable and connect an optical cable).

Quick Question, From reading the manual it looks like I have to select each device separately, can I setup my remote to master power off/on the TV,SAT and Denon receiver with one button press?

I'm always curious about a quote of "tons of problems". I'm aware of a couple of problems experienced by owners of the 3311 and the 4311, maybe you could list some of the others that comprise the "tons" for me?

You will never get a count of good units, so you'll never have a percentage experiencing problems, other than 100% of those owners who have posted that their network card died have had a problem. The vast majority of users will never go to the forums unless they are having problems or they are an enthusiast of some sort.

Both the 4311( I own one), and the 3311(My son has this one) forums are littered with folks describing the same two or three problems. The catch is that the thousands(?) of owners with no problems are not posting.

My son has not experienced any problems with his 3311, I have no problems with my 4311 after the last firmware fix(Denon's response to the problem was prompt and the fix worked(Microsoft anyone?)). The 3311 has experienced some hardware problems which Denon is/has identified and fixed.

The sound and feature sets from these units is superb. This morning I listened to internet radio for awhile, switched to Pandora, then to some tunes stored on a disk hung off my linksys router ... nary a hiccup. After I finish reviewing a couple of other forums I'm going to stick in a BluRay and let my 7.1 system(wides not backs) entrance me for a while ... Ain't retirement great?

Pick up the unit. Most dealers give you a 30 day free return. YMMV

Thanks jmoline. I guess "tons" was a bad word. I had just heard of network problems and "blue rain" or "noice cutting out" problems. I wasn't sure if there were other problems.

I completely agree with the point you made about the majority of users have no problem and people with problems are the main ones that post on these forums. Kind of funny because I thought about this before you posted the same thing.

What are the main differences/advantages of the 4311 over the 3311? I know I can go look at the detailed specs on Denon's page and try and decipher them but I thought you might be able to give me a quick summary that would be easier to understand or point me to a place that directly compares the differences. Thanks in advance!

Unlike the 4311 remote which has (3) macro buttons that can each store multiple steps to do what you desire, the 3311 remote does not have these same buttons. The only way it might occur is if they will shut down using their own respective HDMI-CEC features, which generally must be turned off as they cause problems interacting with the AVR. A Harmony remote or other programmable remote could also do this for you as well.

1. Upgrade to latest Audyssey MultEQ XT 32 which includes support for dual sub calibration using SubEQ HT
2. 11 lbs heavier/9.2 (7.2 - 3311)
3. HDCD decoder
4. 2 processors (1 - 3311)
5. 8-CH Ext Analog inputs
6. 3 Component inputs (2 - 3311)
7. Denon Link 4th
8. 7 HDMI 1.4a inputs (6 - 3311)
9. HDMI SACD support
10. Pre-amp outs - 11.2 (7.2 - 3311)
11. Pre-amp mode
12. AL24+ all channels (FL/FR only - 3311)
13. Programmable remote
14. Dual HDMI Monitor Outs both active (1 - 3311)
15. HDMI 1.4a ARC on both monitor outs (1- 3311)
16. No HD audio freq limitation using Audyssey (96khz - 3311)

can anyone advise me how can i get un-processed video signal out from my avr-991. Actaully i am using blu-ray HTPC and my PC is giving out already 1080p signal (fully upscaled) using TMT5 (total media theatre 5). I understand that my video signal goes to AVR and from there after further processing it goes to my 1080p pojector. I just dont want my AVR doing any processing. How can i achieve that?

How about 1 sentence for the opposite case? If they are anywhere close in price, I'd go with the Onkyo in a heartbeat, as its MSRP is $900 more and it appears formidable to my brief review of the specs.

Just to let you know, Iam running my 3311 with all paradigm speakers and, it sounds excellent. they are a very good match in my opinion, and Ive been lucky enough to have zero issues with my denon (knock on wood).I think you will be more than happy with it.

quite the opposite for me. I had an onk 706 to try out for a week that my audio guy gave me to see for myself wich I leaned too.And I found that the onk was very bright. just didnt have that mellow sound I was looking for, cause I prev, had a denon 1907 I knew what I liked in sound. I compare my denon sound like my old luxman I use in my basement now for two channel. but everyone has there own taste as to what sounds good for them

just make sure the i/p scaler is OFF for that input.

if you want to go 100% "pure untouched" you also can turn off Video Convert, but this will totally disable any video abilities for that input (so no volume graphic or GUI overlay).

see: http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html#video

Thanks dragon. May I ask, what other receivers did you look at besides the 3311 and why did you choose the 3311 over them?

sure, my audio guy treats me very well in our town,whenever i plan on buying anything he will let me take it home and try it with my speakers, sub etc.I demo 'ed a denon 1911,2310,onk 608,708, and i think there was a 807? an older amp but higher up the food chain, and with all of them I prefered th denons because all the onks sounded very bright ,(tinny) to me anyways and the denons had that sweet mellow full sound (sorry i cant describe it in better words) it was more natural. my speakers are paradigm and they are knowen maybe for being on the brightside (I dont find this though) so maybe my denon tamed them down abit I have not tried out any other makes as his shop just carries denon and onk,, hope this helps abit

Hi folks,

After lurking here and reading the comments for the last few months I thought I'd chime in on my experience with the 3311. I couldn't be happier with this unit, no problems at all and superb sound to boot.
I have it connected to a Hitachi plasma and have HDMI connections to a cable PVR box, a Sony blu-ray player, a Sony PS3 and an ATI card in my PC. I also have connections to a Sony DVR via component video. All work flawlessly. I listen to internet radio daily and connect to media center via my PC. I connect and use my Ipod classic via the front USB and it works perfectly. I've updated the firmware, no problems at all!
Bottom line is I'd buy it again in a minute.
Hope this helps some of the skeptics out there that are reading all of the entries from those having issues.



cheers,
Brian

Thanks bbshifi! That gives me some encouragement and some nice positive feedback. I am heavily leaning towards picking this receiver up

With the network card problem being a common occurrence, do you think they have changed the type of card they use, and when mine gets repaired it will have a newer type of card in there so that this problem will not happen again? Or will they just replace it with the same thing and we will all cross our fingers?

Dot-Com,

I am happy to report to you that I am on my 5th song (about 25 minutes) connected direct (via usb) as you requested and all is great. This is with my 2nd gen iPod Touch, with firmware 4.2.1.

As I Type it just went to the 6th song and all is still perfect, 100% buffed, 100% of the time

AL24+ all channels, for what is this?

Denon's proprietary processing of LPCM signals up to 192khz.

Denon has further developed its proprietary AL24 Processing, an analog waveform reproduction technology, to support the 192-kHz sampling frequency of DVD-Audio. This new technology called AL24 Processing Plus, thoroughly suppresses quantization noise with D/A conversion of LPCM signals to reproduce the low-level signals with optimum clarity that brings out all the delicate nuances of the music.

Which reminds me ... the 3311 can only process HD audio up to 96khz using Audyssey MultEQ XT whereas the 4311 has no such limitation using Audyssey MultEQ XT 32.

Hi all,

Hoping someone can provide this newbie with some comparison information on the 3311ci versus the 3808ci.

I've used my 3808ci for a little over two years. Other than some handshake issues with the cable box, the 3808ci has performed flawlessly with outstanding sound. However, the HDMI board appears to have failed.

It appears that Denon doesn't have a direct replacement for the 3808ci, so I an interested in how the 3311ci would compare to the 3808ci, especially in sound quality.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Sound quality will be similar as the 3311 also uses Audyssey MultEQ XT although the 3808 has better components and is also 12lbs heavier. The direct replacement for the 3808 was the 4310 which has been replaced by the 4311 this past October and uses the most advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT 32. Handshake issues are still common.

^ This post by batpig on this issue should help.
edit: rockduster, jd was quicker on the draw in answering you. Happy hunting.

Thanks for reply jdsmoothie

So, instead of purchasing a 3311ci and not having to buy the spendier 4311, does it make sense to invest $400 - $500 have the 3808ci repaired?

Again, thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Seems a bit steep for repair work but if really that much, hard not to consider the 3311.

^ and make sure to buy authorized for the 2 yr OEM warranty.

3 Year Warranty No ?

I think it is about time to replace my Denon AVR 2803. I have settled on the 3311ci. Here is my question. Can anyone give me a reason to wait until Spring and by the next generation 3312? I don't mind waiting, but I can get this right now for a significant amount off at an authorized online retailer that is too good to pass up unless there is something coming that I am not aware of in the next gen. I think I am not supposed to include any price talk so I am being careful with my selection of words there.

Any input is appreciated.

Sorry, you are doubtless correct. That's what I thought I remembered for the higher level models, but I couldn't find that on the Denon website warranty page. 3 yrs is very nice.

At this point there is no information that has been released on the 3312 which won't be available until June. Also, the 3311 has been selling for 25-30% off MSRP since it was released.

@nyrfan Thanks a lot. As soon as the JB comes out for 4.2.1 I will upgrade.

Oh btw sorry about the NYR loss to my team tonight, it was a great game by the habs