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post #4621 of 10201
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post
Sorry, you are doubtless correct. That's what I thought I remembered for the higher level models, but I couldn't find that on the Denon website warranty page. 3 yrs is very nice.
I remember it being mentioned on the website before unless I am mistaken. I do not find it anywhere when I searched now. It is of course mentioned on dealer website.

http://www.wwstereo.com/website/ecom...uct=AVR3311CI#

I have to go look what the warranty card that came with the box says....
post #4622 of 10201
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Which reminds me ... the 3311 can only process HD audio up to 96khz using Audyssey MultEQ XT whereas the 4311 has no such limitation using Audyssey MultEQ XT 32.

Would you happen to know what is the case for the 4310?
post #4623 of 10201
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Originally Posted by svbp007 View Post

... I have to go look what the warranty card that came with the box says....

Don't bother-the 3 yr was WAY more prominently displayed on usa.denon.com AVR page before, but now I see it is indeed mentioned right there.
post #4624 of 10201
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie
Which reminds me ... the 3311 can only process HD audio up to 96khz using Audyssey MultEQ XT whereas the 4311 has no such limitation using Audyssey MultEQ XT 32.

What kind of media use more than 96khz in HD, I want to know what i'd be missing.
Can I still get more than 96khz without Audyssey MultEQ.
post #4625 of 10201
^^^

- very little...

- won't be "missing" anything...
post #4626 of 10201
I have the Denon 3311 and am looking to purchase an amplifier. Since it is my first amplifier I know almost nothing about it. I am looking to purchase a 200X7 ish amp or perhaps even a 200X5. If I do purchase a 200X5 amp, can I still use the 3311 to power the side two channels in 7.1? What do I look for in an amplifier to make sure to maintain the surround sound and processing capabilities of the 3311?
post #4627 of 10201
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Originally Posted by e2g_ View Post
Would you happen to know what is the case for the 4310?
AFAIK, no limitation with the 4310 either. It's not an Audyssey limitation, rather a limitation of the Denon's ability to process the audio which applies to the 33XX and below models.
post #4628 of 10201
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Originally Posted by centauro74 View Post
What kind of media use more than 96khz in HD, I want to know what i'd be missing. Can I still get more than 96khz without Audyssey MultEQ.
There are maybe a handful of audio BD's that are engineered at 192khz, although it can still be process when Audyssey is not enabled.
post #4629 of 10201
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Originally Posted by BtrSound View Post
I have the Denon 3311 and am looking to purchase an amplifier. Since it is my first amplifier I know almost nothing about it. I am looking to purchase a 200X7 ish amp or perhaps even a 200X5. If I do purchase a 200X5 amp, can I still use the 3311 to power the side two channels in 7.1? What do I look for in an amplifier to make sure to maintain the surround sound and processing capabilities of the 3311?
Are you using 4 ohm speakers or located in a large room? Why do you want to add an external amp? Although you can certainly power all channels, you really only need to power the front 3 channels (e.g XPA-3) as the AVR can easily handle the surrounds (unless of course you've got 4 ohm speakers all around). An external amp simply amplifies the signal ... the 3311 still does all the sound processing.
post #4630 of 10201
Guys here are some problems that I saw one person write in a review. Seems like the person had major problems with a Comcast DVR which is what I will have. Just wondering if anyone else has these problems or maybe they can address them. A lot of times I think problems are just user error.

"Sounds good, but doesn't work with my comcast DVR. Here's all problems I encountered.
1. Resets comcast DVR to default 480i setting at power up or coming out of standby. Have to always get into the comcast DVR settings and set to 1080i.
2. Never passes sound in standby mode. After a power cycle it will do it, but is it asking too much to work in standby
3. Never starts up in last source (there's settings to select for example HDMI3 or last), it never seems to get it right
4. Takes a while to switch or indentify HDMI sources at power up."
post #4631 of 10201
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post
Are you using 4 ohm speakers or located in a large room? Why do you want to add an external amp? Although you can certainly power all channels, you really only need to power the front 3 channels (e.g XPA-3) as the AVR can easily handle the surrounds (unless of course you've got 4 ohm speakers all around). An external amp simply amplifies the signal ... the 3311 still does all the sound processing.
It is a failry large room and I like it to be fairly loud. I also have the RTi A9 speakers and they are fairly power hungry. You can hear the point at which they "come alive" at about -10 and I am worried about underpowering them.
post #4632 of 10201
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post
Guys here are some problems that I saw one person write in a review. Seems like the person had major problems with a Comcast DVR which is what I will have. Just wondering if anyone else has these problems or maybe they can address them. A lot of times I think problems are just user error.

"Sounds good, but doesn't work with my comcast DVR. Here's all problems I encountered.
1. Resets comcast DVR to default 480i setting at power up or coming out of standby. Have to always get into the comcast DVR settings and set to 1080i.
2. Never passes sound in standby mode. After a power cycle it will do it, but is it asking too much to work in standby
3. Never starts up in last source (there's settings to select for example HDMI3 or last), it never seems to get it right
4. Takes a while to switch or indentify HDMI sources at power up."
Not generally user error with cable boxes as they often have issues, although the work around is going directly to the TV with HDMI/ optical to the AVR or replacing the cable box with a newer or different model. Also, HDMI-CEC must be turned OFF on the TV as well as it causes the AVR to switch to the TV input when turned on.
post #4633 of 10201
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

Are you using 4 ohm speakers or located in a large room? Why do you want to add an external amp? Although you can certainly power all channels, you really only need to power the front 3 channels (e.g XPA-3) as the AVR can easily handle the surrounds (unless of course you've got 4 ohm speakers all around). An external amp simply amplifies the signal ... the 3311 still does all the sound processing.
That's exactly what I did. The 3311 has more than enough power for my fxia6's and monitor 30's.
post #4634 of 10201
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Originally Posted by centauro74

That's exactly what I did. The 3311 has more than enough power for my fxia6's and monitor 30's.
I just wish I can sell my monitor 70's and cs2, so I can get new speakers that's the only way my wife would approve.
post #4635 of 10201
Well, tracking info says mine should be delivered to their service center today. I forgot to write down the SRA number so that I could check the status of it online. Hopefully if I give them a call tomorrow they will have some info for me, or at least be able to tell me the sra number so I can check the status.
post #4636 of 10201
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Originally Posted by D0T-C0M

The ipod buffer problem is when the ipod is connected via cable to the receiver. I don't have airplay so I dont know if this buffer problem exists there too but I know the ipod skipping happens all the time when connected via cable (iOS 4.1).

@stretch what iOS are you using? I am using 4.1 and am waiting for a untethered JB before upgrading to 4.2.1. iOS 4.2.1 apparently fixes the buffer issue but that was only confirmed by one person thus far.
@.COM, I am using either 4.0 or 4.1. Pretty sure it's 4.0 tho.
post #4637 of 10201
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Don't bother-the 3 yr was WAY more prominently displayed on usa.denon.com AVR page before, but now I see it is indeed mentioned right there.

Presumably they willl shift to 2 year warranty given the discounting etc. The PDF document on usa.denon.com has only the 2 year mentioned but the print out that came (of the same looking document) in the box says that for CI models 2311/3311/4311, it is 3 year warranty.
post #4638 of 10201
Not sure where you heard that from, as the HDMI 1.4 CI models all have 3 year warranties as long as purchased from an authorized vendor.
post #4639 of 10201
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Not sure where you heard that from, as the HDMI 1.4 CI models all have 3 year warranties as long as purchased from an authorized vendor.

Yes. We are just reflecting on the fact that there is no longer a mention of this on the usa.denon.com (or we could not find it). I was randomly speculating that given the fact that they took it down...they may change the policy in future.

The warranty print-out that came with the 3311 box does say that CI models have 3 year warranty (but this is a different version than the PDF on the website).
post #4640 of 10201
It's listed at the bottom of Denon's 3311 webpage ...

"The AVR-3311CI 7.2 Channel Networking Multi-Source/Multi-Zone A/V Home Theater Receiver is backed by a three-year warranty."

http://usa.denon.com/US/Product/Page...3-dbd2a1f57f63
post #4641 of 10201
I know you can view the EQ curves that Audyssey calculated: I've seen them.

Problem, is, I have no idea where to find them again in the *&^%$#! obtuse Denon menus...

Can somebody help me find them again?
post #4642 of 10201
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Originally Posted by jtara View Post

I know you can view the EQ curves that Audyssey calculated: I've seen them.

Problem, is, I have no idea where to find them again in the *&^%$#! obtuse Denon menus...

Can somebody help me find them again?

auto setup>parameter check>eq check
I think thats what you are hunting for
post #4643 of 10201
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Originally Posted by D0T-C0M View Post

@nyrfan Thanks a lot. As soon as the JB comes out for 4.2.1 I will upgrade.

Oh btw sorry about the NYR loss to my team tonight, it was a great game by the habs

Had I known you were a habs fan I would not have replied LOL!

Glad I could be of some help in this thread!
post #4644 of 10201
I just ordered a 3311 to replace my 1909 in my basement theater room. I will be relocating the 1909 up to the family room to replace a non-hdmi Harman Kardon receiver.

I have a couple of components in the basement (Popcorn Hour media player; blu-ray player; and xbox360) that I have hooked up to an HDMI splitter that has two outputs - one goes to the basement receiver and the other goes up to the family room (using a 35' monoprice hdmi cable). To control the media player and the Blu Ray player from the family room (and to switch inputs on the HDMI stitch), I use the famous "next generation remote extender from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Next-Generatio...4870479&sr=8-1

In addition to controlling the basement components from the family room using a Harmony remote with the "RF battery thingie" that comes with the remote extender, this little unit allows me to have all of my basement gear in a utility room and I can control everything with another Harmony remote (using a second "RF battery thingie") without having line of sight to the components.

Everything works well now, but as soon as I swap the HK receiver out and start using two Denons, I am afraid that the remote from the family room will be controlling both receivers when switching inputs, adjusting volume, etc.

I noticed on page 98 of the 3311 manual that there is a way to change the channels on the denon remote "so that no AV receiver other than the desired one operates". Has anyone used this function? I am mostly interested in seeing if this is something that can only be done when using the Denon remote. I use two Harmony remotes and I am hoping that this changes the actual IR codes so that each Harmony can learn the different codes.

Thanks.
post #4645 of 10201
Although I've never used this particular feature, I'm guessing it only changes the Remote ID setting rather than changing all IR codes.
post #4646 of 10201
Hi guys,

Anybody knows how to connect front wide or front height speakers via the pre-outs in a 7.1 setup?
I can't seem to find any preouts for those on the back of my 3311.

Thanks in advance.
post #4647 of 10201
the SURROUND BACK pre-outs will output whatever "extra" 2 channels are active.
post #4648 of 10201
Those of you with cable DVRs: Have a lot of you had problems with your DVR and 3311 or did everything work fine? If you did have problems, I would like to know what they were and if you were able to fix them. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Not generally user error with cable boxes as they often have issues, although the work around is going directly to the TV with HDMI/ optical to the AVR or replacing the cable box with a newer or different model. Also, HDMI-CEC must be turned OFF on the TV as well as it causes the AVR to switch to the TV input when turned on.
post #4649 of 10201
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the SURROUND BACK pre-outs will output whatever "extra" 2 channels are active.

Thanks Batpig!
You are the man.
post #4650 of 10201
Just got a 3311 and I'm going to be using the pre-outs with a Bel Canto S300. This is my first "separates" setup as my other setup includes a levinson 383 integrated. Therefore, the question I have is the powering sequence. The Bel Canto runs cool enough to leave on at all times, but I'd rather put the Denon on standby when not using it. Is it ok to leave the amp on at all times and just turn the Denon from standy to on to standy as necessary? Or should I adhere to a more deliberate procedure to turn the denon-bel canto combination on and off?
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