The **Official** Denon 3311CI/ 991 Owner's Thread NO PRICE TALK - Page 208

J-pgs are from an OmniMic output. Picked one up from PE for home measurements so I wouldn't have to keep tearing down my lab cart at work. I have all my heavy duty gear here at my office.

Um, that would make it "two, two, two receivers in one"

Which It isn't.

You can send the HDMI output to either mon1 or mon2. Not both, and certainly not a different signal to each.

It does have audio zones, but of course you give up surround channels to send audio to a zone. But doesn't help with the video.

As others, I'm still a bit baffled regarding just what you are trying to do, though. My best guess is that you want to play audio discs on the BD while your wife is watching TV, and want to access the BD OSD?

(apologies to Certs for fracturing their classic TV jingle)

The AVR3311 doesn't support streaming video. Just audio and images.

This goes for both the DLNA DMR as well as built-in Internet support. Thus, Pandora but no Netflix.

My TV and BD both stream video, so no big deal. I don't need a third way to stream video to the same screen.

Best thing to do is to get a video card that has a HDMI output and connect your computer to your 3311 then you have full internet access/video/movies/music etc.

Once again-I DO understand about the 75 db level. I was just asking if anybody happened to know the FREQUENCY of the tone bursts. This is just to satisfy my curiosity.

The tone bursts are full bandwidth chirps (impulse measurements).

make sure that you get a card that supports HD-audio bitstreaming.
for ATI it's 5xxx series+.
not sure about nvidia.
I'm planning to get fanless 5450 which is around 20$ these days

OK. Got the front wide effect channel built. See jpg for layout. 60dg included angle for wides, 41dg for mains.

Gotta get lil tyke down - and I'll callibrate - and listen. Report back sometime tommorrow probably - and might have more measurements.

Hey guys I have a quick question about a subwoofer issue that I have.

So I just received my sub in the mail (Polk Audio DSW 500) and it is one of the coolest things I have ever purchased.

So I have it hooked up with LFE to the receiver and it works wonders with TV, movies, and games. However, when I plug in my iPod to play music it does not work at all. I even made a CD and put it in my Xbox(which was used for the movie and game) and still no joy.

Not really sure what the issue is so if anyone has some insight I will greatly appreciate it.

Currently, I have it set at 80Hz crossover with LFE+Main with multi-channel stereo.

Thanks in advance

Also make sure that ALL speakers are reset to SMALL.

OK, so just watching some mindless TV - season finally of Nikkita. Holly SMOKES - I feel like I am in a room nothing like "my living-room". Front Wides are incredible! Immersive. The room doesn't feel like a room - and the enhancement to surround material is phenomenal.

If you haven't tried the front wides - and have this receiver - you owe it to yourself to give them a shot. An order of MAGNITUDE better than Yamaha's front height channels!

Wow. Never been in such an immersive sound field - and this is just "Nikkita"!

I love this receiver! Phenomenal!

I see in internet people complaining that they can't get last.fm to work...
I have different problem: where do I find last.fm?? I can see in pagesource of net/usb references to LastFm, but I don't think I've ever seen it.
anyone was lucky to get it working?

I'm ready to be laughed out of town for this, but what exactly are "pre-outs". I noticed that the 3311 has them for zone 1 and 2.

Does it mean the sound is pre-amplified?

that's where you can get signal right before it's amplified for speakers.
so it's "line level" signal that you can route to external amp.

to answer my own question:
browsing sources I've found that last.fm enabled only for europe, and not for US. we get pandora and rhapsody instead. which doesn't make any sense to me.
looks like something worth attempt to hack

The 3311 has pre-outs for the main zone speakers, Zone 2, and Zone 3 while the 991 only as pre-outs for the sub and Zone 2 (as do some of the lower level models). As noted above, the pre-outs are used when external amplification is desired, either for some or all of the main zone speakers, or Zones 2/3 (in lieu of using the 3311's amps). So for example if you wanted to have a 7.1 setup in your main zone you would connect an external stereo amp to the Zone 2 pre-outs and power Zone 2 speakers connected to the external amp.

Hey Jeff was going through my setting while in net/usb and noticed that when you hit Menu/ Input Setup/ Still Picture that you can select slide show to be on and have intervals of 5 to 60 sec. You can even listen to your music in your Net/usb only, while you watch your slide show, just back out while listening to your music file or play list and select pictures

@ jdsmoothie If he has the crossover set at 80Hz AND LFE+Main set, what will setting the speakers to "small" do besides actually removing the bass <80Hz from his speakers? To my understanding that will not add more bass signal to the sub?


@SheepLegs I had that problem where the bass was definitely sounding weaker while playing music because in movies/Tv there is an actual LFE channel being transmitted while in music there is not. In the "manual speaker config" menu I left my front speakers set to "LARGE" with the crossover set at 80Hz for all other speakers, In the subwoofer menu I have LFE+Main and "LPF for LFE" set at 120Hz set for the sub. Be sure not to mix up the "LPF for LFE" with the crossovers that are in the manual speaker config menu. They are totally different things. If when you say you've changed the crossover to 80Hz, if you meant you changed the "LPF for LFE" in the sub menu to 80Hz than of course it is very possible that you might not hear anything out of your sub when a LFE is not present as it is when listening to 2 channel music from your iPod. The Crossover frequencies you want to send to your sub must be set in the speaker config menu. I'm away from home so I don't have the actual menu names off the top of my head but I'm sure you'll find it.

Even with the crossovers properly set I still found the bass to be weak in the sub. I found that putting the audyssey EQ in manual and adjusting the bass higher helped to increase the bass as well as running the RESTORER function on HQ setting. I also turned on dynamic EQ which boosts the bass and tremble at lower volumes which they say makes it more pleasing to the human ear.

@exxonen Good point.

Just to clarify the HD 4000 series supports 2 channel LPCM, the 5 and 6 series support multi-channel LPCM. For a HTPC a 5450 is a good bet, although if you want to add GPU post processing (like noise reduction, deblocking, smoothing, vector deinterlacing, etc.) then a slightly more powerful card like the 5550 is a better bet.

I was only talking about the DIY fence the rest of the setup looks commercial and very professional.

It won't, however, just easier to set for STEREO mode as well as STANDARD mode.

dBKicker,

It's really hard to say. My thoughts are that you try each configuration and seewhat sounds best to your ears. Like I said, my 2 speakers are placed where they should be configured for heights but to me, it all sounds so much better when used as wides. Even if you don't mount them on the wall for the test, just try to get them as close to where you would place them and give it a try. Honestly, to me, the height channel isn't all that great and the difference when using wides was huge.

Wish I could be of more help but in the end it's your own ears that will decide.

Rick

SoundOfMind thanks for your suggestion.
Yes, you're exactly right, those speakers are really positioned where they should be better for heights and I actually had them configured as heights configured with Audyssey. Personally, I didn't think the overall affect was that great so I decided to configure for wides and ran Audyssey again through all 8 points. To me, the overall affect using wides instead of heights was so much better even though they are positioned inproperly for wides. I think the type of speakers I'm using there however may have helped a lot due to the way they disburse the sound. They are Klipsch S3's and mount horizontally. They're shaped like a triangle with the top cut off and have drivers facing to the left, center, and right disbursing sound to all 3 directions. The resulting sound is amazing, totally encompassing. My only point really is that when faced with speaker plaement issues, it's worth trying something even if it isn't exactly ideal, within reason of course.

Rick

^Oh, that explains it. Thnx for clarifying. Heights and wides are supposed to be direct firing, just like FR/FL/CC. Those you are using seem designed for surround duty so all bets are off. Glad you've got a sound you like.

Hoping some suggestions may come from the group...

I had two very different subs connected to the 3311. One was Energy front firing and the other was Klipsch down firing. I had boomy bass but it was there.

After reading the comments on here, I went ahead and replaced the Energy front-firing sub with another Klipsh down-firing sub. So, now I have two Klipsch down-firing subs.

The auto setup was run and things seem fine, but the deep bass seems gone. Any suggestions?

Thank you .. that answers my question that it is not possible to send separate HDMI input Video Sources to Mon 1 and 2, and have the BD OSD on one Monitor in so that you do not have to switch the Cat/Cbl on amp.

I just wanted to have Mon1 always on the TV (SAT/CBL) and Mon2 separate monitor for the BD OSD off of the amp. I guess I could hookup a sep. monitor straight off of the BD Player, and use that for the BD OSD Video.

You can take your Pre-Outs off of your AVR, and run interconnect cables over to your POWER AMP, and then run your speakers off your POWER AMP, yielding more Power in WATTS RMS to each speaker. That is why it is best to go with the 3311, if you ever plan on running a separate AMP for some REAL Power to your loads (speakers).

Does anyone know when Denon will release their new 3311CI upgrade to maybe 3312CI?

Hopefully, it will include a built-in Wifi with great antennaes for some range...

What are your Settings on the Denon AVR-3311CI = to??

Probably around June..the 3311...is only about 7/8 mos old.