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Can any recorders(DVD or non-DVD) with hard drives be connected to an external hard drive?

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... or non-DVD...

This is a DVD Recorder forum, so discussion of non-DVD recorders which can be connected to external storage, such as the TiVo Series 3/HD/Premiere, would be inappropriate. You can read about them in the HDTV Recorders forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=42
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Can any recorders(DVD or non-DVD) with hard drives be connected to an external hard drive?

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Yes, the Magnavox 2160A and new 513 can have their internal HDD replaced/upgraded or externalized with a dock-and-play system, as described here.

That linked file takes you to our #5 HDD Pioneer, but there are many other stories there of people who've replaced their internal HDD with 500GB drives and one other who externalized.

Click #1 in my sig. for lots of other info and a list of organized help files.
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Can any recorders(DVD or non-DVD) with hard drives be connected to an external hard drive?

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In the literal sense, yes. Both the TiVo DVR and Magnavox DVDR, as mentioned, can be configured to use an external drive. However, they are both "lock-down" systems. The TiVo ESATA external expansion is encrypted and non-interchangeable; you can only use a single external drive and the recorded content will only play on the TiVo that created it. If you detach it from the TiVo you will lose all the content recorded on it. The Magnavox arrangement simply uses a long cable to bring the internal HDD out to an external "docking station". While you can use multiple drives, the content is recorded in a format that is playable only on the Magnavox. So neither offers the ability to directly store content off-line to a portable HDD in a general format that could be utilized by other media players or considered archival storage.

The TiVo does, however, offer the ability to transfer content over your home network to networked storage (NAS or PC disk farm). The format is standard MPEG-2 which can be played by just about any media player and the original resolution is maintained (i.e. HD/5.1). One can also transfer content from the Magnavox, or any DVDR, to external storage by first burning the SD titles to DVD-RW in DVD-Video format then easily importing the titles to PC as standard .MPG or .VOB files. All of this does require the intermediacy of a PC, and so it is indirect portable/archival storage.
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The Magnavox arrangement simply uses a long cable to bring the internal HDD out to an external "docking station". While you can use multiple drives, the content is recorded in a format that is playable only on the Magnavox.

External drives can be recorded to or played on Philips 3575/7356 or Magnavox 2080/2160/2160A/513 that are "externalized" with the docking station (same operating system, or OS).

Also, external drives are not limited to a single recorder SN like some DVRs... any other "docked" Mag 2080/2160/513 or Philips 3575/3576 can record to and play them.

There may be other Funai recorders with the same OS that can be externalized in a similar fashion to record/play external drives. No one has "Pioneered" that yet!
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Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure if they were playable on the previous versions of the funai line -- I have not read yet of anyone verifying this on the 513 model. But even so, it is still very much a "lock-down" system limited to playback on this particular line of recorders. No doubt, useful to some but not the general portable/archival storage solution desired by many. No recorder offers that, directly.
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Thanks for the replies. So, the only way to transfer and play recorded video directly to my computer system would be TiVo? Has anyone tried to hook up the Pan.EH-55 or 75 to an external hard drive?
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Thanks for the replies. So, the only way to transfer and play recorded video directly to my computer system would be TiVo? Has anyone tried to hook up the Pan.EH-55 or 75 to an external hard drive?

If by "transfer" you mean over a network line without the intermediacy of burning disks, then the answer is yes. TiVo is the only stand-alone recorder solution that enables this.

No DVD recorder, Panasonic or otherwise, is capable of accepting an external HDD for off-loading recorded content from the internal drive. The only way to get recorded content off any DVDR in a format that is universally playable is by burning it to a disk and sneaker-net to a PC. This is not as bad as it sounds. I did it for years with my E-85.
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