"Official" Yamaha RX-V667/RX-V767 Thread - Page 98

Your question is a little confusing. The "per input" settings for four of the AVR inputs can be saved with the white Scene buttons. The AVR can't change some setup options this way, but many settings can be saved. You can't change the number of speakers.

The Sony EX700 series can save its parameters per input (TV tuner excluded), or use a common setting.

If I haven't answered your questions, you might try the EX500 thread.

Heh, I nearly screwed up. After almost spending $500 - $600 to get a receiver full of features I'd never use, I settled on a recertified Yamaha RX-V667 from NewEgg for $270 and couldn't be happier.

Question: is it possible to have it produce any combination of video and audio together? For instance, HDMI1 video combined with multi-channel audio?

I'm not sure if I understand your question, but you can get audio from a different input than HDMI1 for HDMI1. Use OnScreen->Input->(select input)->(up arrow)->(down to Audio In)->Enter->(select your input). If this is what you want, you are done. You can also save this configuration with a white Scene button after exit via the OnScreen button.

Yeah, basically I want to be able to hear any of my three audio sources when I watch any of my three video sources. Examples:

- Listen to music from my PS3 while surfing the 'net on my PC video channel

- Listen to the news from the cable TV box while playing a puzzle game on the PS3 video channel

- Periodically check out the stats and sports forums of my favorite team on the PC video channel while the cable TV audio of an event is still going

I'll program my Harmony remote to allow me to switch to specific HDMI or multichannel audio sources regardless of what HDMI video output is "hot" to do this if it works. Or, regardless of which audio channel is on, I'd like to be able to switch the video channel back and forth at will.

~~~~

My one complaint that I'd love some help with... how do you disable the volume and mute indicator on the TV when using full HDMI? It's on the receiver itself, so I don't need a visual cue. It screws up movie watching when I adjust the sound, especially for other people who aren't expecting it to pop up.

Curiously, it doesn't show when I am adjusting volume for my PC. Is it because I am using a DVI--->HDMI connection, or is it because I am using multichannel audio with it? Maybe it's the specific HDMI port it is plugged into. I need to investigate....

~~~

EDIT

It looks like I can't do it the way I want and keep HDMI audio. My PC connection can switch sources because I am using multichannel analog sound. To hear HDMI audio from my PS3 or cable TV, I am forced to watch video from the same HDMI connection.

Configuring the buttons don't appear to be useful since I can only reprogram the audio special effects per source button alongside the Input channel - I can't see a way to mix and match HDMI video sources with different HDMI audio sources except the one it is already paired with.

Lastly, the reason the volume overlay pops up is because of HDMI audio. It won't come up for multichannel. I wish there was a way to turn that ugly indicator off while keeping uncompressed sound in movies, but I don't think I can.

Funny that nobody answered my questions; anyhow I bought the RX-V667 and I can now answer them myself.
Indeed channel level manipulation is not possible at the DSP level, plus there are many other limitations like no audio conversion from digital to analog (except through the pre-amp out). Plus only one HDMI out. Nice amp anyway, but quite limited in functions for a 2011 device.
Ordered a 4x2 HDMI matrix switch with cinch audio out, that should fix some of this.

Volume control is done after the DSP, but why does that matter? You still have control over the level of each channel?

Reposting because I haven't figured this out yet:

I'm not getting any bass out of my subwoofer (Polk Audio PSW10). Followed the manual's instructions and set my subwoofer's volume to half, and set crossover frequency to maximum.

All my speakers are set to small, and I figured I'd have to mess with the bass crossover. However, the bass crossover option is grayed out and set to 200Hz. Why would I not be able to change this setting? And is this the reason there's no output from my sub?

osd>setup>speaker>manual set up>configuration. on this screen does your subwoofer say "use"? if it says "none" change it to "use". also, on the same screen,"extra bass" should be off. on the manual set up screen,>level. what numbers do you see for all(incl. sub) speakers?(sub level is on 2nd page)

Hi,

After sending in my RX-V767 for repair (HDMI 1 out was broken), they've fixed it, and returned it. They also upgraded the fw to 2.10, if I remember correctly. Now I can't get a signal on my HTPC (with a ATI Radeon HD 3600). It reacts when I start the HTPC, but it just goes back to the RX-V767 wallpaper. Nothing has been changed on my HTCP.

If I plug in a monitor using HDMI 2 out, and using both displays (HDMI 1+2 out), I get a picture on both displays. I can at that time disconnect the monitor, and the picture is still ok. If I reboot the HTPC without my monitor connected to HDMI 2 out, I lose the picture on my projector connected to HDMI 1 out.

HDMI 1 in = Blu-ray (Works ok)
HDMI 2 in = HTPC (No signal until a monitor is connected)
HDMI 3 in = HD-DVD (Works ok)
HDMI 1 out = BenQ W500 Projector
HDMI 2 out = Usually nothing connected, but I have to connect a monitor to
get a picture on my HTPC. The picture then appears on both HMDI out.

All other devices works great as is. Blu-ray, HD-DVD, etc.
The issue is just with the HTPC.

Any ideas? It's driving me crazy!

No, because I have a Stereo speaker setup. I have to change the downmix before it reaches the power amp.

Another strange limitation I forgot: there is no digital audio-out (Coax or SP/DIF). Audio put in through HDMI can only be put out through the HDMI out port. Kind of a dead end.

This is due to HDCP restrictions more than anything else. That and the fact that HD audio is ONLY compatible with HDMI.

• Subwoofer set to "use"
• Extra bass set to "off"
• fronts L/R set to 3.0 db
• center set to 0 db
• surrounds L/R set to 2.0 db
• subwoofer is currently set to 3.0 db

But I've tested the subwoofer at all different levels with the tone test and no sound is being produced.

Hi fradog68, is the sub power light on? Does the sub make any sound if you rub your finger across the end of sub cable (if not try a different sub cable). Test the sub by connect a iPod/iTouch/CD or DVD player and play a heavy bass music.

I recently purchased a refurb RX667 from newegg and received no manual/disk. I am attempting to use the front pre outs to feed an amp/receiver (hk3490) which will then power monitor 70's. I would like to connect monitor 40's as either mains to the RX667 (preference) or front presence but read you should not wire speakers when using the corresponding pre-outs (I like a large front sound stage, large room). I also connected a cs2 center and rci85 in-walls as surrounds and they function properly. I was able to produce sound through the hk to the 70's, but with little spl. I adjusted the front output on the rx667 to the fronts (monitor 40's not connected to the main speaker posts) @ +10db (Rx667 volume @ -30db) and had to turn the hk to near max for any distinguishable sound. I had the RX667 set to 7.1. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

The sub power light is illuminated. And when I plug the cable into the back of the sub, there is brief, loud sound. Sort of like if you plugged a guitar into an amplifier. I played a DVD the other night, Source Code, which should've had some decent bass at certain points, and got nothing from the subwoofer.

I still think the key lies in the bass cross over being locked in at 200.
I have another subwoofer that I can plug in. So I'll see if I can rule out it being a subwoofer issue.

Assuming that you have a good cable, that it is connected properly at both ends(we've all done that),and you verified that the sub is working(plug a cd player or ipod directly into the sub), you should be able to adjust the sub crossover freq. as long as the sub says "use". At this point I would do a factory reset,page 101.

Did you test it by connecting a player directly to the Subwoofer?

UPDATE: Attempted several configurations with both digital and analog inputs. Changed the speakers around and was not able to achieve real yield from any of the pre-outs.

If your using the HK as an amp and the 667 as a preamp the problem might be with switching from the HK and your speakers would have to be hooked up to the HK right? i do not use the preouts on my 667 except for the subwoofer but you may need to have the preouts switched from insided the 667 too.
1) Have the preouts from the 667 switched to send the signal to the HK.
2) Have the HK switched to except the signal from the 667
3) Have the speakers hooked up to the HK
Have you run YPAO? If not give that a try with everything hooked up and see what you get.
The 667 does not come with a hard copy user manual and the interactive user manual can be downloaded from Yamaha.
If you want a hard copy of the user manual download it from Yamaha, burn it to disc and take it someplace and have it printed. It should cost about $20 or less for a basic print. That is what some of us have done.
I know HK's sound good but so do Yamaha's and the 2 have different sound textures produced by the amplifiers. Much like mixing speaker brands it will sound different than using the same type speakers with matched voice coils. It will be interesting to see how you like it once you get it figured out compared to having everything ran through the 667.

Thanks for your time and effort. I am setting up a basement mancave system and bought both the yammy and the hk as refurb. My intent was to hold off on YPAO until I purchase a sub, but I will take the advise and run with it. I am partially deaf from years of loud music and earphone use so I will just turn it up louder. All kidding aside, thanks again.

For kicks i took a look at the HK's owners manual. Its a stereo reciever and i did not see where it can be used as an external amplifier, good luck.

Well it does have preouts/main in with jumpers.
Maybe something internal requires hooking preouts to Yahama even if you won't be using the HK for anything but amp, manual also says for an alternative use tape monitor loop input.

I am using the HDMI input. I do not think the unit will perform the digital to analog conversion with the loop out. But thanks. My original plan included a Emotiva 2-ch amp on clearance, but ran into a cant pass up deal on the hk.

Turn off both Yamaha and HK. Remove the pre out/main in jumpers on the HK. Connect the front pre-out jacks on the Yamaha to the main in jacks on the HK. Connect the front speakers to the HK,not the Yamaha. The only connections to the HK should be the patch cable to the Yamaha and the front speakers. Do not connect any speakers to the front speaker connectors on the Yamaha while using the front speaker pre-outs. Connect your rear and center speakers(if used) to the appropriate speaker connectors on the Yamaha. All inputs(stb,bluray etc) should be connected to the Yamaha with hdmi. Connect the hdmi out on the Yamaha to the hdmi input on your tv. You may find the volume control on the HK not working,just use the volume control on the Yamaha. If the vol. control on the HK works,set it to 9-10 o'clock and leave it alone,just use the Yamaha vol. control. If you are using this as a 2 channel system, the improvement will be minimal, if at all. If you are using it as a 5.1 or 7.1 system, the improvement will be more substantial as you will be doubling the front speakers power. All in all, the Emotiva would have been better as it is a high current amp.(easy for me to spend your money)

Easy indeed. Thanks for the thoughts. I am not a fan of running fronts of an AVR with center and surrounds (I will be using) connected. I will have a go. Appreciated.

For home theater surround sound usage I'm confused as to the advatages of using the HK for front/main speakers outside of 2 channel enjoyment. Arguably the HK may and again may not sound better than the 667. The HK driving the 2 channels will definently have more power. More does not always translate to sounding better.
In a H/T application the power is still going to have to be balanced with the surrounds and rear surrounds and center and sub or it may not sound so hot. A multichannel amp would be a better bet if you want more power but again, the power has to be balanced all around.
You will find, especially in 2 channel aplications but also all around as your 667 breaks in it starts to sound even better and it sounds good out of the box.
Not sure what you paid for the 3490 or the 667 but HK offered me a 2600 for 375 with free shipping to match an online competitor (Electornics Expo). If i had money to throw i would have bought it and hung on to it but i had already purchased installed and set up my 667 when HK made the offer. Although a great deal accessing my system is rather complcated so once set up its much easier to let it alone and crank it up.

super newb question but where do you go to set the freq's of each speaker? only option I find is in the Setup area under "Speaker Setup" it says Crossover Frequency and I set it to 120Hz....


Would this be under Equalizer? I'm a newb at this and if it is, not sure how to setup the equalizer... help?

I think you're confusing power and volume level. They are quite different. Doubling your power will not double the volume level. Actually, it takes about 10 times the power to double the volume. All things being equal though,doubling the power should reduce distortion thus improving sound quality. Different speakers have different requirements. As an example; your front speakers may require more power to achieve the same volume level as your rears or center. Or it could be the opposite. It depends on a lot of factors like efficiency,impedance and placement. Yes,the volume levels needs to be balanced and you may need different amounts of power for each speaker to do that. Keep in mind that the 667 puts out about 50 watts per channel with 5 or 7 channels driven. Important if you're going to upgrade your speakers down the road. No such thing as too much watts & current,money or horsepower.

Agree'd. I was refering to YPAO balancing the system. Not knowing if the extra "horsepower" would be realized using such a mixed system. In 2 channel mode with just the fronts playing I can see where one might hear a difference in the texture of the 2 different amps.
Would be my guess that with 7 channels driven the 667 doesnt come close to 60watts per channel except at extreme ranges and very distorted. Being a very old school guy i remember when power meters use to come on some recievers and how loud they were with those puppies pointing at 1 watt so i do not put a lot of value in wattage hosepower anyway. The home H/T reciever is a different animal than the old days of super loud and crystal clear although the later is still fine with me. The units that will do both well with both H/T and 2 channel cost way to much and frankly not worth the money IMO. Not when my OLD 2 channel stuff sound cleaner and louder.
The fellow with the 3490 if nothing else has a nice 2 channel reciever. It will be interesting to see how his hybrid system turns out.

LOTS of people are using separate 2 and 3 channels amps to supplement an AVR in 5.1 and 7.1 systems. YPAO adjusts for any differences in levels, and whatever miniscule difference in the "sound" of an amp might exist isn't really worth considering. More power always sounds great, and putting it where it's needed is smart. It also frees up considerable overhead for the AVR, giving the other channels a lot more power to work with.