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post #3241 of 3908
I tried that a few times and it wasn't working. Then I realized that my smart remote was turning off the cable box whenever I attempted this method. I turn on the box and voila... it worked. Thanks!

Now I have to figure out a way to program a macro on my Harmony 670 remote to let me one-button-touch switch the audio setting back and forth.
post #3242 of 3908
Hello. New member today, just got a v667 before Christmas and so far loving it, but still working on all of the set up features and tweaking. One thing I've not been able to find an answer to in the manual or in this forum, is whether the decoder can detect DTS through the analog inputs. I have my DVD player into the Yamaha both via component video with optical digital, and through its analog outputs because of my DVD-Audio/SACD collection. I also have some DTS-CDs and they play through the analogs, but the Yamaha doesn't show DTS decoder on its screen.
I'm sure I can answer this other question by just doing it, but am wondering if the automatic speaker configuration will set the crossover frequency. I'm fairly certain I set it at 100, then after running the configuration it seemed to be at 80, but being new to the menus I may have done that myself.
Also, for those new to the Harmony line of remotes, I've been using the 550 for several years now and may be able to help folks with configuring theirs. Just recently I had reason to set up some multi function controls and it's fairly straight forward.
Thanks!
post #3243 of 3908
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Originally Posted by dagrace View Post

Hello. New member today, just got a v667 before Christmas and so far loving it, but still working on all of the set up features and tweaking. One thing I've not been able to find an answer to in the manual or in this forum, is whether the decoder can detect DTS through the analog inputs. I have my DVD player into the Yamaha both via component video with optical digital, and through its analog outputs because of my DVD-Audio/SACD collection. I also have some DTS-CDs and they play through the analogs, but the Yamaha doesn't show DTS decoder on its screen.
I'm sure I can answer this other question by just doing it, but am wondering if the automatic speaker configuration will set the crossover frequency. I'm fairly certain I set it at 100, then after running the configuration it seemed to be at 80, but being new to the menus I may have done that myself.
Also, for those new to the Harmony line of remotes, I've been using the 550 for several years now and may be able to help folks with configuring theirs. Just recently I had reason to set up some multi function controls and it's fairly straight forward.
Thanks!

Welcome to the forum. Analog inputs should only be receiving pcm because it would be one channel per cable. If you were using digital coax or optical or hdmi, then you would sees dts if the output were set to bitstream. As for the harmony remote, I just got a 650 a month ago and love it. When you set it up online it should have most of its functionality. I think the only button I had to custom input was 'return' but I don't remember if that was for activity or a device. I'm glad your enjoying your yamaha!
post #3244 of 3908
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Welcome to the forum. Analog inputs should only be receiving pcm because it would be one channel per cable. If you were using digital coax or optical or hdmi, then you would sees dts if the output were set to bitstream. As for the harmony remote, I just got a 650 a month ago and love it. When you set it up online it should have most of its functionality. I think the only button I had to custom input was 'return' but I don't remember if that was for activity or a device. I'm glad your enjoying your yamaha!

The only remote code I had to "learn" was for "On Screen". All others were in the database. I'd think/hope that now that I've taught it the new code that all would have access to that.
So, from your DTS answer, does that mean that just getting the seperate channels, thus 5.1, that it is virtually the same end result as decoding DTS? I can't use any digital outputs for DVD-Audio/SACD, as you probably know.
post #3245 of 3908
O.K. Harmony guys,answer me this; The 667 remote won't work any cd player other than a Yamaha. That didn't bother me because my Dish dvr remote would operate my NAD cd player(as well as my tv). That left me with two remotes,essentially one for audio,one for video...fine. Well Dish has been replaced with Brighthouse cable, which wont operate my cd player....so now I have three remotes on the coffee table. Yeah, I know I've taken the long road, but here's the question; will a Harmony remote replace all three without losing any functions? It'll have to operate the Brighthouse cable box/dvr(with the navigator menu system),the 667(w/scene buttons),a Panasonic plasma tv,a Panasonic bluray player,and the NAD cd player. If it will, which one is the easiest to use? Thanks in advance!
post #3246 of 3908
If you have Brighthouse remote P/N 1056B01, try code 0521 for your NAD CD.
post #3247 of 3908
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Originally Posted by sofast1 View Post

O.K. Harmony guys,answer me this; The 667 remote won't work any cd player other than a Yamaha. That didn't bother me because my Dish dvr remote would operate my NAD cd player(as well as my tv). That left me with two remotes,essentially one for audio,one for video...fine. Well Dish has been replaced with Brighthouse cable, which wont operate my cd player....so now I have three remotes on the coffee table. Yeah, I know I've taken the long road, but here's the question; will a Harmony remote replace all three without losing any functions? It'll have to operate the Brighthouse cable box/dvr(with the navigator menu system),the 667(w/scene buttons),a Panasonic plasma tv,a Panasonic bluray player,and the NAD cd player. If it will, which one is the easiest to use? Thanks in advance!

Take a look at the Harmony list of supported devices.

I can't post the URL but just google for harmon remote database and you should find it.

In the case where your device might not be in there you can "learn" each command from your original remote. That's really easy to do. While the Harmony is hooked up to your computer, you select the command on the screen, or type in a command name, hit the Harmony with your OEM remote, it tells you if it succeeded, move on.
Also, you have the options of assigning commands to the buttons on the Harmony, AND can add screens of additional commands to any activity. I've got a couple of multi command sequences programmed in that each hold 5 internal commands so I can reboot my Roku, which is a ten command event.
As for which is a good model to get, can't say as mine isn't available anymore, but I believe some advanced models have the dual ability of sending both IR and RF commands. This feature is good for things like ceiling fans, gas fireplaces, etc. Probably the biggest advantage I have found is for the non-techie in the house. Just select an activity (Watch DVD for example) and all needed devices are powered up and put into the proper modes.
post #3248 of 3908
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Originally Posted by joegovernale View Post

If you have Brighthouse remote P/N 1056B01, try code 0521 for your NAD CD.

Thanks, but it didn't work. The only button available is the "vcr" button and Brighthouse doesn't even provide any cd codes for any brands, only receivers.
post #3249 of 3908
I took a quick look and it seems the 650 will do everything I need. The more expensive ones only operate more equipment,have a rechargeable battery and/or a touch screen. Am I missing anything?
post #3250 of 3908
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Originally Posted by sofast1 View Post

I took a quick look and it seems the 650 will do everything I need. The more expensive ones only operate more equipment,have a rechargeable battery and/or a touch screen. Am I missing anything?

It looks like my 550 except that it has a color disploay with icons. On my Select Activity screen I put in titles that mean something to me, like Local TV, Watch DVD, Streaming, DVD-Audio, SACD, etc. Hit any of those configuration and keep the remote pointed at the entertainment center and watch everything come on, change settings and play. I find the thing very configurable, even to the extent of the order devices are turned on, delay period between sending next command, and most accessed activities on the main screen, lesser used on second screen.
They must have sold a bunch at Christmas because when I went to update my remote for the new Yamaha it was slow, and timed out once. I've never had that happen before. Looks to be about $50 on Amazon.
post #3251 of 3908
Great,thanks!
post #3252 of 3908
Here's a question for you folks having experience with the v667. Since I have the analog outputs from my DVD player into the Yamaha for DVD-Audio and SACD, is there any benefit to also having the optical digital used? I use the DVD player for both movies and these two music formats, along with standard CDs.
post #3253 of 3908
If you use an optical cable then you can output bitstream to the avr which would result in the avr decoding the audio instead of the disc player. I prefer to have bitstream output because I know my avr will decode better than any disc player that I have.
post #3254 of 3908
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

If you use an optical cable then you can output bitstream to the avr which would result in the avr decoding the audio instead of the disc player. I prefer to have bitstream output because I know my avr will decode better than any disc player that I have.

Thanks, that's about what I expected. I'm so glad to have found this forum. If I was left with only the Yamaha FAQ site and their owner's manual I'd be playing trial and error for all eternity.
The last little bit of hookup/setup I need to do is to get my outdoor speakers working. As I understand it, I can use the extra sp outputs but have to also have analog outputs from source(s) to avr. I have those from the DVD/CD player already, but since I sometimes stream radioparadise over the Roku will need analog from that as well as its hdmi.
UPDATE: Well this isn't going well. For one thing, the manual is less than helpful, but no matter what I've tried I cannot get sound from my outdoor speakers. Worst part about this is the trial and error method which I'm afraid may get me into a worse situation. I've gone with the Yamaha FAQ support email so we'll see (and report) how that goes.
Basically, what I've got is a 5.1 living rome set up, and have the multich input selected so that the CD player outputs analog to the AVR. I've switched the speaker set up back and forth from 7.1 normal and 7.1+1zone. Rebooted receiver to see if that helps. Tried the Zone 2 switch on the remote to try the volume up. Nada.....
UPDATE 2: Got to playing around and found that I had to power up Zone 2 on the remote. Here I thought that was ONLY if I was using an external amp, but with the addition of two RCA analogs from my Roku I've got music inside and out. I was also surprised that by just plugging in these two cables to AV1 it worked without telling the AVR a thing. It had to be told that the Roku was on HDMI 2 but seemed to pick up on the analog without a hitch. I wonder if that'll be the case with any other sources....just more questions...and trial and error.
post #3255 of 3908
I just purchased an RX-V667 to run with my Denon 3805 receiver as the external amp. All I want to do is upgrade to HDMI for my cables from my Dish, PS3, and Xbox.

The RX-V667 will not output HDMI from my ps3. I can connect from my ps3 to my projector fine, but when I try and use the receiver it pulls up the Yamaha OSD and blinks the HDMI light on the front panel. No display at all on my projector. I have tried multiple HDMI cables of different brands, even exchanged the receiver for a new one and am having no luck.

Even when not using HDMI, the receiver has trouble outputting the video to a regular tv or the projector using Component or Composite. It just goes blank and I have to turn the receiver off and back on.

The projector is an Infocus IN72. I have not tried the XBox yet because I wanted one to work before doing the other.

I know my stuff and I am having probelms.
post #3256 of 3908
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Originally Posted by sofast1 View Post

Great,thanks!

There are major problems, it seems, at Logitech pertaining to the Harmony Remote web access. I tried to update some small details on mine (really don't need to, just labels) and not connecting. Their forum is filled with new customers getting very frustrated. Might want to monitor this situation for a bit.
***UPDATE***
I've updated my 550 a few times in the last couple of days, adding more controls for the v667, and all seems good again at Harmony site.
post #3257 of 3908
Found my problem. It seems my projector was using its auto-source function which was causing the issue. I have no idea exactly why but when I turned it off and select the HDMI source, it popped right up. What a relief.

Now I need to find out the best way to get my two receivers to work together. My Denon 3805 sounds light years better than the RX-V667 so using it as the amplifier should be interesting.
post #3258 of 3908
I have an 867 and am having trouble with the dual hdmi out. I have my 867 feeding both my Samsung TV and my computer monitor. When the TV is on, the feed from the 867 goes to the computer monitor just fine, but if I turn off the TV, the feed to the computer monitor blinks out and then shows the 867 wallpaper instead of the selected input. Any ideas on how to fix this? It causes a lot of problems. Thanks.
post #3259 of 3908
I am thinking of getting one of these. I am switching out a Denon 2807 because the lack of GUI overlay is driving me crazy.

The price sure is right for all the features on the Yami.

Got a couple questions.

I understand it does not upscale 720p or 1080i which is fine, but does the GUI still overlay when passing it through?

And, is there any difference in the GUI in the 667 and the 671?
post #3260 of 3908
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Originally Posted by HaroldKumar View Post

Got a couple questions.

I understand it does not upscale 720p or 1080i which is fine, but does the GUI still overlay when passing it through?

And, is there any difference in the GUI in the 667 and the 671?

(1) Yes.
(2) Yes. Perhaps the most important difference is the ability to disable the volume bar on the 671. (In OM, search for "short message.")
post #3261 of 3908
Hi folks!

Just upgraded to the 667 and am having a problem....I have a BluRay hooked up to HDMI input 1, HD cable box on HDMI 2 and HDMI out to a Panasonic 720P plasma.

When I turn on unit and start a BluRay, everything looks great. If I switch to HDMI2 to watch TV and then switch back to BluRay, the screen looks like "Sepia" or very washed out. Note that I did not power down the Bluray player when switching back and forth.

If I cut the BluRay player off and power back on, the problem resolves. This is a huge nuisance.

Any ideas? I have searched the owners manual and this forum and cannot find any answers.

Thanks!
post #3262 of 3908
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Originally Posted by Bridude View Post

Hi folks!

Just upgraded to the 667 and am having a problem....I have a BluRay hooked up to HDMI input 1, HD cable box on HDMI 2 and HDMI out to a Panasonic 720P plasma.

When I turn on unit and start a BluRay, everything looks great. If I switch to HDMI2 to watch TV and then switch back to BluRay, the screen looks like "Sepia" or very washed out. Note that I did not power down the Bluray player when switching back and forth.

If I cut the BluRay player off and power back on, the problem resolves. This is a huge nuisance.

Any ideas? I have searched the owners manual and this forum and cannot find any answers.

Thanks!

Your problem sounds like a handshake failure, and may have nothing to do with the AVR. If your cable box is outputting RGB color space, and the BD player is outputting YCbCr, it's possible for your TV to get confused. Although, if properly set up the TV should reproduce identical images with both inputs, but anything is possible when handshakes fail.

Make sure that the AVR is set to pass HDMI video with no processing, and turn off "monitor check" in HDMI setup. Beyond that you'll need to look for the issue elsewhere, probably in the TV.

To resolve a failed handshake you should only need to force a new handshake. That would be done by switching inputs back and forth again either at the TV or the AVR.
post #3263 of 3908
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Your problem sounds like a handshake failure, and may have nothing to do with the AVR. If your cable box is outputting RGB color space, and the BD player is outputting YCbCr, it's possible for your TV to get confused. Although, if properly set up the TV should reproduce identical images with both inputs, but anything is possible when handshakes fail.

Make sure that the AVR is set to pass HDMI video with no processing, and turn off "monitor check" in HDMI setup. Beyond that you'll need to look for the issue elsewhere, probably in the TV.

To resolve a failed handshake you should only need to force a new handshake. That would be done by switching inputs back and forth again either at the TV or the AVR.


I have tried switching inputs back and forth numerous times and nothing works short of powering off the BluRay and powering it back on.

I need to try to figure out how to change the settings you refer to. I am a total newbie to this Home Theater stuff and this is a very complicated receiver!!!
post #3264 of 3908
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Originally Posted by Bridude View Post

Any ideas? I have searched the owners manual and this forum and cannot find any answers.

Thanks!

Hi Bridude, suggest trying setting resolution to 720p output on the Bluray player & HD cable box.
post #3265 of 3908
Thanks bri dude.

How obnoxious is the volume bar? That's actually a feature I want, to be able to see the level on screen.
Also, it would be nice to change the level on a given channel easily on screen, does it do that?
post #3266 of 3908
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Originally Posted by HaroldKumar View Post

Thanks bri dude.

How obnoxious is the volume bar? That's actually a feature I want, to be able to see the level on screen.
Also, it would be nice to change the level on a given channel easily on screen, does it do that?

Some find it obnoxious, some don't. After adjustment, it stays on screen for about 2 seconds. It's not a big deal for me personally, but its design could have been more tasteful and elegant.

I'm unsure what you mean by changing the level on a given channel.
post #3267 of 3908
Example: changing the subwoofer output on screen (without a bunch of menus to sift)
post #3268 of 3908
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Bridude, suggest trying setting resolution to 720p output on the Bluray player & HD cable box.

Thanks JChin.....I changed both of those settings. I had the cable box set at 1080i and changed to 720p, and also had the BluRay set at 1080p, and changed that back to 720p.

Unfortunately, these changes made no difference.


Also, RDGRIMES: I saw no setting for monitor check in the HDMI settings...can you tell me where to find that?
post #3269 of 3908
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Originally Posted by HaroldKumar View Post

Example: changing the subwoofer output on screen (without a bunch of menus to sift)

Yes, you can change the levels using the onscreen display. It's not too laborious - several clicks on the remote.
post #3270 of 3908
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Originally Posted by Bridude View Post

Thanks JChin.....I changed both of those settings. I had the cable box set at 1080i and changed to 720p, and also had the BluRay set at 1080p, and changed that back to 720p.

Unfortunately, these changes made no difference.


Also, RDGRIMES: I saw no setting for monitor check in the HDMI settings...can you tell me where to find that?

Consult the OM, it's in there somewhere AFAIK on all Yammies.

Your issue sounds like a color space error and still boils down to HDMI handshakes.

Keep in mind that cable boxes are notorious for HDMI issues, but this sounds like the display is failing to handshake.
As a work-around and to test, try connecting cable box direct to TV and run optical to the AVR. See if this at least bypasses the issue.
In the BD player setup, look for color space settings. Consult the appropriate forum for that model if you can't find it. They often like to hide those settings under different names. If possible you'd want the player to have an explicit setting for color space, not an "auto" setting. But switching the TV's HDMI input back and forth *should* resolve such an error. Switching the AVRs input may not.
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