"Official" Yamaha RX-V667/RX-V767 Thread - Page 3

AFAIK from all reports the Harmon Kardon upgrade gives full support for 3D as specified under HDMI 1.4 the same as any HDMI 1.4 AVR, it can't add any other HDMI 1.4 features such as ARC etc.

The HDMI receiver/transmitter chips used in those H/K AVR's are capable of being upgraded to support 3D.

Interestingly the chips are used in many other AVR's aswell.


The Harmon/Kardon upgrade is a full upgrade to HDMI 1.4 supporting 3D video.

No other features of HDMI 1.4, ARC etc can be supported by the upgrade AFAIK.


I'm not aware of any devices that support Ethernet over HDMI as specified under HDMI 1.4 that have been released or announced yet.

Cheers
Blackrose

I have not seen any devices either. Note however that 1.4 internet is in place on any 1.4 hdmi cable. Just have to wait for the devices to follow up and add the capability.

Also note that the industry has tried to go away from 1.3/1.3a/1.4 designation because it is confusing customers. I have been told that 1.4 is strictly hardware and cannot be upgraded from 1.3 or 1.3a via firmware or any non-hardware upgrade. This is because the only difference between 1.3a and 1.4 is internet, nothing else. 3d is simply 1.3a or 1.4 no difference.

If a company is saying it is 1.4 3d upgradable via firmware update thats because they are trying to avoid confusing customers that dont understand the difference. They cannot upgrade to internet capability hdmi with a firmware update.

Hope thats not too confusing.

Mike,

I am viewing with an Optoma HD70 DLP projector.

This particular line runs through the 16x9 picture, top to bottom, approximately where the left edge of a 1.33:1 picture would be (if that makes sense).

When I run set-top box >> component >> receiver >> component >> projector, I don't get a line, it looks fine.

When I run STB >> component >> receiver >> HDMI >> projector, I do.

Since I can go all component, it's not a big deal, but I'm assuming it's not supposed to that

Thanks,

Ian

Quick question.. Anyone know if there is somewhere (on the display or either OSD) that will show the receiver is receiving a DTS-HD or TRUE HD audio source? I want to see if the receiver is taking in good audio source.

I've looked in the manual and looks like theres nothing that light. I've checked the OSD "info" and all it says is PCM and the sampling is always 48mhz and the channel does change if i change to a 2 channel, 5.1 or 7.1 sound source but doesn't say what is actually come in....

I have the receiver.. can't figure it out.

Well I think I figured it out.

My Shark007 Codec setting wasn't set to output digital sound without being processed thus everything was showing PCM.. I moved the check mark and now with some test .. the INFO part in the OSD now correctly displays the correct signal. I have tried Dolby Digital, Dolby EX and DTS. Now I need to find some TRUE HD and DTS-HD sources to test with.

Hi guys, if im gonna use the receiver as a pre/pro, does it matter if i get 667/767 or even older model 765? I dont see any big diff in term of features except hdmi 1.4 and all of them has full pre-outs.

If you live the USA or Canada, it's worth noting that [it appears] the (anticipated) RX-V767 will not appear in North America and has been supplanted by the RX-A800. [Similarly, it appears that the RX-V667 will "coexist" with the (new and) similar RX-A700 . . . at least for 'some time'.]

This state of confusion brought to you by Yamaha . . . the caring company!

In what was probably some retailer cost cutting to move 'old' RX-V667 inventory before the arrival of the RX-A700 models caused 'buyer confusion', I just picked up a couple of RX-V667s at [what I hope I'll continue to view as] a 'good' price! Now I get to wonder (1) if the RX-A700 will turn out to be a better product (technically, not just because the warranty is one year longer!), and (2) whether future RX-V667 clearance prices will be less than what I paid! [Oh woe is the curse of Buyer's Remorse! ]

Yeah the 667 has HDMI to HDMI scaling right? Well im just using it for movies (80%), any difference with audio / picture quality?

If there are none i might as well get 765 with the on going promo on newegg, its gonna end soon tho.

posted on 2010 Yamaha receivers:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post19009586

Found specs on 767, really disappointed and/or confused.

Comments?

Mike

Sorry to disappoint!!

OK, as Yamaha clearly (or not) states in specs that HDMI is 1.4 (3-D) AND audio return channel (ARC) is this proper HDMI 1.4, or not?

Mike

Hi Mkard, if you haven't read FAQ for HDMI 1.4., look here.

I purchased a new RX-V667 to replace my RX-V3800, simply to gain 1.4a capability without breaking the budget. Maybe I made a mistake. The 3800 had "memory" settings, where you could save all sorts of setups and assign to any inputs. I had a "normal" setup for all-speaker sound, and a "2-channel" stereo setting the only used the front L/R speakers. It appears the 667 has nothing like that, meaning you set one speaker configuration and that's all you get across all inputs. Anybody have any ideas??


Thanks

JChin,

I had read that a couple of weeks ago. Pointed to on another thread, maybe the 2010 Yamaha one.

What my question related to is the discussion above, and in other threads that ethernet HDMI is not implemented as hardware in any devices. At least that is what I got from the many posts on varied threads.

So, my question stands. If Yamaha specs as HDMI 1.4 (ARC and 3-D (firmware upgradable in the case of the rxv567 and below)) is it actually HDMI 1.4?

I'm just looking for for some clarity on that Q. I am not looking to put anyone down.

Semper Fi

Mike K

You can use the SCENE setup to configure any input with whatever settings. The AVR will remember the setup last used on any input.

I don't have your receiver (yet?).

From the notes at the bottom of page 50 of the rx-v667 pdf,
the only input specific adjustment via the options menu is that of volume trim. Adaptive DRC, Tone Control, Cinema DSP 3D Mode, Dialog Lift, and Extended Surround values selected are applied to all inputs, and front display will show "ALL" when that change in value is made. If a setting specific to a certain input is changed, that input ID will be displayed on the front panel.

I must agree that the flexibility of function you are used to seems not to be there. Someone else will hopefully point out something that I missed in the manual. See RdGrimes post above.... Scene is the answer?

Good luck, I hope that my simplistic reading of the manual is wrong and you can be happy with your new stuff.

p.s. How would you characterize the sound to your existing setup when compared to your prior rx-v 3800. BTW a very sexy piece of black box.

Mike K

I only have the manual to go by, but scenes on the 667 seem pretty limited and only save a few settings (not including the speaker setup, unless rdgrimes has actually tried it and it works).

However, the new RX-A1000/2000/3000 that were announced today have extended scene functionality and the manual says you can store a complete speaker "pattern" with each scene (size, distance, EQ etc.). But from what I can tell only two different speaker patterns can be stored, not a unique one for each scene. So it's still not as good as the old system memories, but might be good enough.

With memory so cheap today, you'd think they could have done better.

Yes I guess I made a mistake. Might have to sell the 667 and go for one of the RX-A units. As for sound comparison between the 667 and 3800, I think both sound great. Maybe at very high volume the 3800 would be the better sounding receiver.

I need the speaker adjustments because I sometimes have to work nights. Then I would set the speakers to just the fronts. That way my wife can have decent volume without the sub jarring me out of bed. The one button setting on the 3800 was perfect.

Hi, a quick question for any other 667 owners. When changing the volume the 667 shows the setting on the tv (white text in a big black box) via the HDMI overlay. I've looked in the manual, and checked all of the options, and I don't see any way to disable this feature. I don't mind it, but it is driving my wife nuts. Does anyone know if it is possible to keep it from doing this? Thanks.

I have simple needs: A sound stage in the living room and 2 separately controllable "zone 2" speakers in the kitchen.

I am unable to get the kitchen speakers to operate via the spring connectors.
The screen says " fixed volume". Am I going to need another amp to operate the kitchen speakers?

It's certainly possible I missed something or am doing something wrong.
Any help appreciated.

If you're using the speaker level output you need to use the "extra speaker assignment" option to enable them. This eliminates use of 7.1 or "presence speakers" in the main system. Setup - speaker setup - manual.