"Official" Pioneer Elite SC-37 - Page 142

Well, my SC-35 just did the same last night during the Olympics: Moderate pop through the speakers then complete shut down with blue light blinking over iPod/iPhone. Checked speaker connections this morning - all clean, no shorts apparent. Attempts to power on give same result: starts normally for about 3 secs, then shut-down and blinking indicator.

Been in use for almost a year now and I have truly enjoyed its performance. Guess will check the quality of my local authorized repari shop next. Glad I kept my old Denon AVR-790, not nearly the sound quality or driving ability but better than silence . . .

Let you know what happens.

And another one bites the dust. Yesterday my year-old SC-35 shut down while streaming Netflix at moderate volume, no apparent electric surge, no popping sound, just a blinking iPod light. Disconnected absolutely everything besides the power cord, did several hardware resets, got the usual symptoms of powering up for 2-3 seconds, then shutting down. Bought it from Costco, so no warranty, will try my luck just returning it. Sad, sad day.

Just got mine back from the repair place.
I bought my 37 on eBay last year and got a square trade warranty.
Glad I did because they took care of my claim without any hassle.
Issue appears to be fixed!

Good luck with your repairs guys.

Reminded me to post my update - Got mine back about 2 weeks ago. Electra-Sound in Cleveland (nearest authorized Elite center) actually shipped it off to ABL Electronic Service in Madison Hgts., MI. Dropped it off July 31, ABL gets it Aug 01 and its back to me Aug 22. Not bad at all. Had kept my old Denon AVR-790 (cause there's no aftermarket value for it to speak of) so wasn't really missed at all.

Tech sheet says "Traced problem to and replaced shorted ICE amp." Working fine.

Only persistent issue is commercials on some channels sound extremely thin. Only commercials and only certain channels. Strange. Had Time/Warner out to look at the feed awhile back - they replaced line, but problem still there. Might try to swap out the DVR/CATV box.

interesting that both of you guys had the amp "die" when connected to cable/sat box or network. This may have no significance at all to your particular short or overcurrent situations, but I have to ask -

was the cbl/sat box connected by coax, opt or analog cables?
was the incoming cable connected to a surge protection device before connection to the tuner/dvr?
was the ethernet cable connected to a surge protector before connection to the receiver, before the router, switch or anywhere in the signal path?

I got lightning surge over the cable to our house once, which took out my entire network devices and everything connected to it.

In my situation, the SC-35 was/is connected to the CATV/DVR via high speed HDMI cable. Other electronics on the same circuit were not affected and there are quite a few - plasma TV, cable modem, wireless router, PS3, CATV/DVR and Soundcast wireless rear surrounds and sub transmitters. All but perhaps the PS3 would have been on at the time the SC-35 shorted internally on the chasis. No weather in the area either just sitting there watching and "pop." Repair was covered under warranty.

Surge in the cable line would very well take out those things connected to it, had friend experience the same thing on his CATV line. Still haven't put a surge protector on my cable line - but a good idea to do so.

I have not used surge protection on the ethernet cables either to this point. The SC-35, PS3 and Cisco DVR are connected to the wireless router via ethernet cables.

The thin, tinny audio during some commercials is still driving me nuts - only certain channels, and even then not *every* commercial on those channels. I imagine I'll try to swap boxes (currently a Cisco 8640HDC) with the cable company. The Cisco is a 3D capable box but I really do not view any 3D programming.

No cable/sat box in my setup, was streaming Netflix from a BD player. Ethernet cables were not passed through a surge protector, mostly because my setup doesn't really allow for it. I have 4 ethernet cables connected to an integrated 4-port switch / Powerline adapter. The adapter can't be plugged into a surge protector by nature of the Powerline tech and obviously I don't have enough ethernet sockets on the surge protector to plug in all 4 ethernet cables. The logical way to set this up would be a single-port Powerline adapter connected to a separate switch and the surge protector sitting in-between them, so that's on my to do list. Bottom line is, no other electronic equipment was affected, so I doubt it was a surge.

On a different note, Costco took back the year-old SC-35 without much hassle and my new Denon 4311CI should be here next week.

Costco is as good as a warranty. Reading these last few post I think I will plug my ethernet to my power conditioner console. Can't wait to hear how the Denon 4311 compares to the SC 35.

I must say, in a perverse way, I'm pretty happy my SC-35 died. 4311 is definitely worth the extra five bills. Audyssey XT32, SubEQ, HD tuner, DLNA, better FLAC support, much better OSD and menu system (accessible from other LAN devices), comparable heat output.

most of those items...excluding XT32....I would call "tricks"

Is the sound of the 4311 vs the SC35 head and shoulders difference?

I got a closeout "deal" from Magnolia on a SC37...but I know there are deals now on the 4311

If I thought there was a big difference in the two...sound wise...I would sell it and buy the 4311


Warren

Just now my SC35 went poof. Had it over a year. Heard a pop and now have a blinking Ipod light. It will power on for around 3 secs. Guess i will have to find a service center in the Tampa FL area or just buy another AVR.

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sorry to read that
anything jump out at you as out of the ordinary before it happened? how much top & side clearance did you have?...just curious.

my SC-09 is still running like a top (hope I didn't just hex it ), never shuts down.

Hello: I own an SC-35 which I purchased new over a year ago and I'm now just getting around to setting it up. Part of the reason for this delay is that I hate to take my beloved Elite 56TXi receiver out of my system. Anyway, I will soon begin this ardous task of replacement ; however, I was wondering if it might be a good idea, once my 56 is unhooked and taken out of my equipment rack, to re-plug it back into another AC outlet, perhaps in another room until I get the SC-35 up and running correctly. In this way, I won't loose any of the settings in my 56TXi. Any comments? Thanks!

I have 8" free space on the top and 1" on both sides. Only use it about 2 hours a nite.

XT32 is definitely the big one on that list. To me there was no head and shoulders difference, but that obviously depends on what you're driving with the receiver. To me, 4311 does sound significantly better in my system, but I'm assuming it's mostly the result of XT32 calibration and DynEQ.

that's not much different than what I have had for the SC-09. I have 10" on top, no forced ventilation, just open at front and sides. Sounds like you just had some bad luck

hope the repair is not too bad...keep us posted. with only a yr it should still be under warranty but if you decide to replace, the SC-68 is worth checking out.

If you are moving the avr to another room, you will need ne MCACC settings and should consider re-adjusting everything to get the best sound for that room.

I think something is wrong with my SC-37 and was wondering if anyone could offer advise.. I was uing my DVD/SACD player to play SACD thru my Pioneer SC-37 and I found that the front left multi channel input on the receiver is not functioning. I double checked that the front left output on the DVD player is functioning by connecting it into a different input in the back of the receiver... so I know it is out putting a signal ok. Unfortunatly, as a work around, the DVD palyer can not pass SACD or DVD-A thru HDMI (Denon DVD-3930ci)

What can I do? I took the top panel off the receiver, but did not see a loose solder point.

You seem to have done a fairly complete job trying to isolate the problem. Did you use the same audio cables when you tried another input to checkout Front L or a different cable? If different one, it could be a cable. Can you inspect the input socket to make sure that there is a contact inside it that looks just like the Front R one? If the contact was not installed properly, it might have been pushed inside the AVR, but you might have been able to see that when you took the cover off. It might be a good idea to inspect then from the back, making sure that you can see the center contact. I think that most inputs are switched with relays and it could be a bad or stuck relay. It might get unstuck by switching inputs several times.

If it is not something simple and obvious and still under warranty, you should contact Pioneer. Otherwise it might be less expensive to buy a new player that supports SACD and DVD-A over HDMI, such as an Oppo 103. Then you would have the option of region-free DVD playback, maybe soon also region-free Bluray playback. I have the previous model, the 93, which integrates well with the SC-37.

Hope you find it is something simple and obvious.

Dave

have an interest here,but just observing the sc-35 really got paired down in this 2010 line up compared to the sc-55 & sc-67 in their respective places being 1rung down from top flagship elites, the sc-57 & this years sc-68. The sc55 & 67 have a lot of features &/or spec than the sc35 compared to the sc37.

The sc 35 was a victim of cost cutting imo looking at the spec of the sc-55 & sc-67.

tbh i had a good listen to the sc-lx83 (sc37) & sc-lx85 (sc-57) in pure direct mode,Talking heads SMS CD & Underworld 4 bluray,great DTS ST.Both demo models obviously in immaculate condition,really. & IMO the sc-37 seem to drive a B&W CM-8 set-up with smaller B&W at the rear & CM ctr a fair bit easier,the volume needed a bit more push on the lx85.

A little brighter too i reckon,the lx83 had a nice open but warm detailed sound,to my untrained ears anyhow ...given the 250.00pounds less cost of the lx83,im very tempted...hmm.

Note the SC-35 is a model year earlier than the 55 and two model years before the 67.

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now don... don't go interjecting fact....

our education system is truly failing us if it is turning out people who can't use a calendar...

your "demo" was under, ummm, suboptimal conditions for any kind of "evaluation" of the things you note....

if you need a feature on the lx85 that doesn't exist on the lx-83, buy the lx85.... otherwise, pocket the £250 and buy the lx83... this is a pretty easy decision...

Hi,

I have a SC35 (LX73 in Sydney Australia) which used to play good. I wanted to explore improvement and bought a Rotel 1080 to power my front speakers (Castle Howard S3). I have connected the front pre-outs to the Rotel using a red/white decent RCA cable.

I got very minimal to no improvement in my sound. In fact after re-calibrating, there was way too much bass. The front reference levels also went up to +5 (from +4).

Is there anything I can tweak further to get some SQ improvement. The Rotel is 200 watts per channel which should have provided crisper sound but not very impressed yet.

Any suggestion would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

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there's no reason why it should provide "crisper" sound simply because there is more power available that you aren't using...

How did you come to this conclusion when i didnt mention any of the environmental conditions i was in?So explain to me the perfect suboptimal conditions you think i may have been missing during my "demo" as you so sarcastically put it. IMO when judging one AV receiver to another,i turn off all the digital processing & any false programs that exaggerate sound.

So if you were in my shoes at the time with €2000 to spend on an AV receiver,it would have been an easy decision would it?Well good for you being so sharp & being able to make up your mind so easily. Of course i wanted to get the most recent machine that i could,& i didnt only demo Pioneer.I tried a Yamaha rx3010,Nad t765,Arcam avr400 & an Anthem mrx300(ARC special "demo" room).all amazing machines,but i stuck to my gut feeling about the SC-LX83 & TBH the SC-LX85 only had the newer iphone control 2 in its favour & airjam in its favour IMO.

Another reason that i leaned towards Pioneer is i know MCACC like the back of my hand at this stage & i'd rather stick with a calibration system that i am familiar with. Also i stand by my own human ability to hear that,while the '85 was excellent sounding,the SC-LX 83 sounded more powerful to me both with straight stereo & direct dts-hd master audio.Also it was far from easy overall...

It was nothing really to dwell on ,but i was refering to the fact that the following 2 elite sc 2nd from the top models had a heap of features thrown on in comparison to later years spec of that particular model.

To your mate who likes to throw in a snotty low ball every chance he gets, Ive never,ever seen any pioneer Elite AV receiver model no's advertised on any calenders.

Could you not try maybe giving the OP a bit of advice,something like trying to manipulate the higher frequencies in manual eq. adjust in the set-up menu of his sc-35,instead of coming across as a Mr. know-it-all,that has nothing to do but post on AVS all day...

Oh according to your calender & your educational system, ccotenj, 1 of my posts may be written out of turn...Just before you try show the whole world how much of a conquerer you are...

ccotenj: " i LOVE airplay... i use it in 4 different places in my house..." ( i must have hurt his airplay feelings)
Edited by maladjusted - 11/24/12 at 5:13pm

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be careful the hand that you bite.... you are the one who indicated a model was "pared down" compared to models that cam after it... furthermore, the "pared down" model offers features that were not found on the previous year's model... your statement was silly, and rather than lashing out at others, man up....

until he describes "crisper", anything to do with modifying the eq would be a mere guess... and my statement was correctand complete... more power that is not used cannot change the sound...

as far as the rest of your diatribes... since you described no method of level matching, we can start with that... and since you didn't indicate "blinded", we can also add in that it was sighted... with those two strikes, there's no need for a 3rd... furthermore, all your other "tryouts" have zero validity as well (lets throw strike 3 in there when it comes to those, different room/different speaker setup)...

as far as hurting my "airplay feelings"... good try, but i have no fealty to inanimate objects... what you "did" was make a silly statement (as well as an anecdotal observation that has no basis in reality), and you got called in it...

hint: i've owned and sold more pioneer equipment than you'll own in your lifetime... and yes, i do know what i'm talking about...