Originally Posted by William Moore
Well, I discovered that in order for any of the menu options to appear, other than the VC option, the receiver needs to be set to an "active" video input (ie "turned on"). Here's my question: why don't they tell you this crap in the manual? It's ridiculous! The sound quality of this receiver is way too "sterile sounding" anyway. I'm trading it in for a Marantz SR 7007. I've already had a look at their manual and it looks way better than Pioneer's.
no companies manuals are that good. you're right, it should be stated in the manual.
if you think it through, Pioneer allow you to set different video parameters for every video input, so it kind of makes sense that they "expect" the video source to be "on" at the time you get into the menu...to see the results of changes you make, etc. they can't allow you to make settings globally because that will change all other sources and probably mess up their own picture quality. other companies may implement the video processor differently, maybe global settings or if they are input specific, just select the input without it needing to be on. I certainly don't know exactly how the Marantz or Denon GUI menu works.
if I read between the lines you're more frustrated with it not being stated in the manual more so than how it works.
but when I personally discovered how this worked myself, it made sense to me intuitively. I didn't get upset about it
if you think you'd like the Marantz better, go for it. its your money. and I agree, the Marantz/Denon manual format has some advantages. I have recently given that opinion, with specific examples, to someone high up at Pioneer US.
but let me ask, did you try using the AVNav software? a lot of interactivity between setting up & using the receiver combined with hyperlinked information in the manual that's in the disc software. makes it a bit easier for newcomers to how Pioneer does things.
sound quality? you do realize this is a 3 year old model, using Ice amps vs. the last 2 years which use a different class D amp design. personally I don't find either one "sterile" but that's my hearing. and comparing a 3 yr model with a new released model, did you consider listening to one of the new Pioneer SC-68/67/65/61 models? just asking...Edited by ss9001 - 1/28/13 at 11:50am