Originally Posted by sawzalot
I think you are missing my point, I dont want the hdmi control I have a universal remote, my problem lies with the additional introduction of more hdmi devices. I bought this avr to be future proof in that respect so that four devices can go into the avr with four hdmi cables and then from avr to flat panel with one hdmi cable for the ease of hook up and added devices, I dont care about the control aspect I just wanted the signal to pass thru the avr when the unit is in standby so wifey does not have to fire up my entire set up to watch the kuro for an hour in the am. I dont really know why you are in defense mode coming off as some what condescending towards a member, almost looking to provoke me, basically putting me down for having an almost four year old unit, really man I have been around Pioneer products my whole life with a Kuro 500M in the HT and a 141 in the bedroom and many many products from blu ray players to various receivers, I did not expect this problem from a newer model recvr. The whole hdmi pass thru signal was not relatively new in 2010 it goes back some what earlier than that, listen here , if you cant help me than simply don't reply to me, I am looking for some advice to make this work not get berated by another member.
OK, I understand.
I can offer this suggestion -
I just tried this with a SC-68, Oppo 93 player and Kuro 151. it works. your manual mentions having HDMI Control on and that's why I mentioned it. however, I just tried it with it turned off in the 68 and it still worked. it may be worth a try to turn HDMI Control on and try it and then turn it off and try it.
I don't know the OSD for the HDMI setup menu in the 37, owning the SC-09 and SC-68 but in the SC-68, you have to set the Standby to a specific HDMI input, one at a time. did you do that? for example, if cable box is connected to Input 1, did you select the cable box Input for Standby? standby mode works on 1 device at a time, not all devices connected. so if you want to switch to BD player from cable, then you have to go into setup menu and change HDMI Standby from cable to BD.
did you try it with your BD player? I have 1 Oppo, 1 Pioneer player connected to the SC-68. I have other and older players connected to the SC-09 but that doesn't have the Standby feature.
sorry but I didn't try it with my Comcast box since I never intend to use it with HDMI, and it would take me an hour to change cables and move racks just to try it with HDMI. I'm willing to do a lot to help Pioneer owners troubleshoot but not spend Sun night pulling racks and wiring
you still have the issue of cable boxes not always playing nice with HDMI, that is a fact not BS I made up to defend Pioneer. I merely offered it as a logical potential explanation if it really doesn't work for you.
did you re-assign HDMI inputs in Input setup or have them set to their defaults?
I can understand your frustration but there is no such thing as future-proof anymore, not with HDMI's changing versions & implementations. not from Pioneer or anyone else. to expect that is not realistic. Each year or so, there are new HDMI chipsets with each new version of HDMI and HDMI is not universal plug & play like analog audio & video. each step in the chain, from source transmitter >>receiver in the receiver >> transmitter in the receiver >> receiver in the TV has to recognize the other. your cable box may work perfectly fine connected to the TV but trying to pass it thru a receiver is different and it may not always work - there are plenty of instances where this is so, all depends on the cable box, the receiver and TV combination.
if you don't want my help or don't like what I say, let me know & I'll refrain from any more replies. All I was trying to do is give you advice, logical reasons it may not work and give you my opinion that to blame your issue on Pioneer is unjustified when we don't know all the facts or what you did or didn't do. and we really don't know if you followed the manual correctly or not...
if you missed setting the Standby to the input you wanted to pass-thru, then try that and post back. it you already did, I don't see what more advice anyone can give you. you might try swapping cables but that's a long shot.
your receiver works just fine, apparently, sending all source devices to your Kuro in normal operation.
and before u dismiss anything I say....I'm one of the most prolific Pioneer contributors in this forum and owned 4 Elite flagships so I think I'm fairly well-versed on their operation. I have all the manuals for every generation of SC models, starting with the SC-09, 07, 27, 37, 57, 68 and 79 models. so I'm not some Pioneer newbie
I apologize if I ruffled any feathers. I do want to help especially since I see that it works for my gear. that tells me the implementation should be OK. I wasn't putting you down for having something 4 yrs old but I was trying to make a point that there may be possible compatibility issues with new gear with new chipsets with older gear and maybe you shouldn't expect 100% compatibility. sorry you took it that way because that was not what I meant.
BTW - my wife is a birder and has always wanted to visit Cape May.Edited by ss9001 - 1/26/14 at 6:20pm