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post #6991 of 8802
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones DD-EX THX.

The first few mins of that movie has some thumping bass that will work the woofer. (The ship flying overhead and landing)
post #6992 of 8802
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post
I plan to take advantage of the currently discounted prices to purchase a WD-73738 ($1200 or less) and stand for our condominium association clubhouse. However, since the facility is used for various functions, the stand must be mobile. Because funds are limited, I am hoping to get either the Mitsubishi MB-S73A or Pinnacle TV6073 stand for less than $200 and mount it on four to six heavy-duty casters (of the appropriate weight-bearing capacity).

I haven't seen the TV6073, but I assume that both it and the MB-S73A have a base made of at least 3/4-inch MDF. That should be sturdy enough to allow me to drill holes and attach each caster with four bolts and self-locking washers.

Can anyone comment on the advisability of this plan? Thanks for your help.
I have completed the above purchase and installation and am able to provide feedback for the benefit of any others contemplating a similar scenario. I bought the WD-73738 at my local Best Buy store for $1199.98 (plus tax) with free white-glove delivery. I got the Pinnacle Design TV6073 from eBay seller "aokodeals" for $99.89 with free FedEx delivery (he still has five available as of this writing, but is now charging a nominal shipping fee).

The stand was in brand-new and unassembled condition and was relatively easy to put together. I drilled four holes in the 3/4-inch MDF base and mounted the casters with 2-inch bolts and self-locking nuts. I used four Shepherd 9299 3-wheel dollies as my casters, and the result is not only rock-solid stable but very easy to move on the clubhouse parquet flooring. I found the dollys at my local Home Depot store for $8.97 apiece, but I wound up purchasing them from Amazon third-party marketer "ProMax Commerce" for $27.31 shipped, for a savings of $11.44 for the set. These casters are a bit of an overkill, with a load-bearing capacity of 200lbs. each, but I like them for their extreme stability and affordability.

The TV is beautiful and the stand fits it perfectly. I spent yesterday afternoon setting the TV defaults and in the evening we screened the film "The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada" for our condo movie club. The panoramic scenes of the southwestern landscape really came to life on that 73" screen.

BTW, this stand is approx. 17-1/2" high, and the casters add another 1-1/2" or so. I thought the viewing height was fine. IMHO if you're not an extreme videophile there is plenty of vertical viewing tolerance in this DLP TV.
post #6993 of 8802
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Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

We just got our 3D glasses ( http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/uldlpliwi3dg.html ) and had our first in home 3D experience...............WOW!
First it took me a minute to figure out the automatic 3D option doesn't seem to work; I had to manually adjust the format to side/side, over/under depending the source. Then it took me a minute to realize that I had to reverse the lenses. Then I realized I had to turn the glasses on (we're not the brightest bulbs in the box), and once we got all that situated we were amazed. Since this is my first time I can't compare the DPL-Link to other formats, but with the proper content (we watched "The Universe" on Comcast for free) it was stunning. Watching 3D made me wish I would have bought the 82" instead of the 73", bigger is definitely better when watching 3D. I also noticed that the viewing angle is allot more critical in 3D than normal mode.
Surprising also was the amount of 3D content that Comcast had for free. I'm amazed to see that you can watch Avatar in 3D on HBO 3D until May 31 at no charge. I just read somewhere that it was being released in limited outlets and that used copies were bringing $90 on Ebay but it's free on Comcast.
I couldn't be happier with the Mitsubishi, I think the PQ is excellent and the 3D at times is incredible. Sorry for the long rant but I feel like a 5 year old at Christmas.

I'm off to order a couple more pairs of these glasses. We're going to have the kids come over on Saturday night to watch Avatar in 3D.


3D porn can't be far behind

When you bought those glasses in your link you posted, The dlp-link type, instead of the other UC glasses, is that all you had to buy for you tv? I have the 738 model, so I was curious. With my model of tv, would all I need is just those glasses and im set? If not what else would I need?
post #6994 of 8802
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Originally Posted by corporal View Post

When you bought those glasses in your link you posted, The dlp-link type, instead of the other UC glasses, is that all you had to buy for you tv? I have the 738 model, so I was curious. With my model of tv, would all I need is just those glasses and im set? If not what else would I need?

All you need are DLP link glasses. Nothing else.
post #6995 of 8802
Wanted to share an interesting observation. I wondered into a home theater store today. They had about 7 DLPs on display, ranging from 65, 73, and 83 inches. I was curious to see what sort of geometry I would see on all the sets so i grabbed a remote and went to each one and pulled up the geometry settings and grid in the service menu.

I can tell you every set I saw had geometry issues of some kind. Also all had at least 1 or 2 black specks on the inside of the screen at various spots. These specks are like little dead pixels, or as some refer to them as stuck mirrors. They are pretty much only visible on solid color backgrounds and when you're standing right in front of the tv, but I definitely found it to be common on the sets that I saw.

I bring this up because as I posted earlier, I had noticed these issues on my 82" delivered last week and best buy has offered to replace it which is scheduled for next week. Now I'm thinking why bother?? Maybe it's not a big deal and since overall my geometry has been mostly adjusted out, I'm worried I could actually end up with a set with worse geometry. With my luck, that would happen and prob deserved for being so nit picky about it. I mean, despite these minor issues, I do love how the PQ.!

Of course if they bring the new set and it's worse, i can always tell them that I'll just keep mine instead and reject the new one. Only thing is, the delivery folks need to wait while I do all my pattern tests and I'm sure they won't care for that.

Something to think about over the weekend, but thought I'd share my observations with everyone.
post #6996 of 8802
I got my 82738 up the stairs today, thanks to three friends, and set up. We did this during halftime of the Mavs game, so I rushed and used jaseman's settings at first. I suspected it wasn't right with all those excess features turned on, and I noticed artifacts in text on the screen on ESPNHD and while watching blu-rays I felt the skin didn't look right. I did look at some test screens from the AVSHD 709 disc, and color and tint were spot on, contrast was easily dialed in, but all the whites were showing up, like it couldn't get bright enough.

Later on, after my friends left, I found nicholc2's settings. Quite a difference. I haven't gone back to the text images, but Tony Stark's skin in Iron Man looked much better after the changes. I also went back to the Mavs game on my DVR, and noticed the numbers in the score looked much better. I checked out Matrix on AMC HD, and skin texture was incredible.

Tomorrow I'll go back over the test images and do some tweaking as needed. I showed my friends the color bars with flashing squares, they had never used a blue filter like that before and were shocked. This is the first time I've seen the rectangles completely solid. Typically no matter how much tweaking I've done there's always been slight variation. After the set has some time to break-in I will be having a go at a full calibration using my Spyder2. I'm interested to see how the measurements are with just using nicholc2's settings.

This set is magnificent. I appreciate all the information so many of you have provided. I'm just loving it. I had a Samsung 61" LED DLP which is quite nice. But 82" is just amazing. I'm sitting about 11' away, and the center is about 3" above eye level, which is really tiny and not a problem. This is just going to completely change the feeling of watching movies at home.
post #6997 of 8802
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

Later on, after my friends left, I found nicholc2's settings. Quite a difference.

I'm getting the same set delivered tomorrow (hopefully). Do you have the link for the post of nicholc2's settings you're referring to? Thanks.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post19343733
post #6998 of 8802
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Originally Posted by sirtelly View Post

I'm getting the same set delivered tomorrow (hopefully). Do you have the link for the post of nicholc2's settings you're referring to? Thanks.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post19343733

Oh wow, you found the original, I never could locate that, I had actually found a reply with that one and Jaseman's.
post #6999 of 8802
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Originally Posted by Walkin View Post

Thanks for the heads up about the deal from PC Richard & Son. Just ordered mine.

My TV came in today. Impressed on how quick that was.
post #7000 of 8802
Well that stinks. The bottom of my screen is all out of focus. They're sending me a new one.
post #7001 of 8802
Just set up my HTPC. My picture is too large for the screen.

Meaning that at 1920x1080p resolution, my tv does not show everything that SHOULD be showing. My start button and clock are cut off.

Help please.
post #7002 of 8802
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Originally Posted by Socen View Post

Just set up my HTPC. My picture is too large for the screen.

Meaning that at 1920x1080p resolution, my tv does not show everything that SHOULD be showing. My start button and clock are cut off.

Help please.

This is because the TV has overscan - some of the picture gets projected outside the boundaries of the screen. How you resolve this depends on what video card chipset you're using. For ATI cards, there's a slider available that allows you to adjust the overscan OR you can create a custom resolution starting with a 1080p timing that reduces the size of the desktop a bit to take the overscan into account. NVidia and Intel chipsets should have similar options available. When viewing media though, you should switch back to the standard 1080p resolution with no scaling to get the best picture quality. Check the Home Theater Computers subforum for specifics for your particular video card chipset.
post #7003 of 8802
Tech's coming out today to check the ring on my screen from the light engine(while on or off), the main board for the random shut-downs, and tweak the geometry. We'll see how it goes...
post #7004 of 8802
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

Tech's coming out today to check the ring on my screen from the light engine(while on or off), the main board for the random shut-downs, and tweak the geometry. We'll see how it goes...

if you see it while off then its external light reflection.
post #7005 of 8802
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

Tech's coming out today to check the ring on my screen from the light engine(while on or off), the main board for the random shut-downs, and tweak the geometry. We'll see how it goes...

I have to wonder if most people's geometry is easier to deal with than mine was... After making the adjustments myself I feel that pretty much no way I would entrust a service tech to do it for me. I spent about 1:45 on mine getting it as close to perfect as possible (and it is).

I was making adjustments practically on the micron level it seemed over and over and over and over again until it was to my taste.. Don't picture ANY tech that Mits. would send sitting here going through that trouble or even caring at all that I wanted my set PERFECT.

Perhaps either I or my TV is just difficult to please
post #7006 of 8802
Well I'm really loving this TV. So far I have not detected the geometry issues during normal watching, not even when using the guide on my DVR. With certain test grids, particularly the built in grid, I can see that it is uniformly bowed. I may try to handle that later on, I've looked into it a bit, and it certainly looks complicated. Yesterday I just tinkered with the service menu enough to move it to the left and get it properly centered. This TV has far less overscan than my last one, I definitely like that. It's got less than 2.5% on the sides and right about 2.5% on the top and bottom. I had to readjust XBMC since it had gaps all the way around after switching TVs.

Using the AVS disc I have the black dialed in perfectly, and I can see almost every step of white flashing but the last one. Color and tint are perfect also. I think next weekend I'll take some measurements and see how the grey scale and all the colors are set.
post #7007 of 8802
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Originally Posted by Hipnotiq View Post

if you see it while off then its external light reflection.

How's that? It's the same exact ring whether the set's on or off, light or dark room...
post #7008 of 8802
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post
How's that? It's the same exact ring whether the set's on or off, light or dark room...
if it's in the center of the screen and you can see it with the TV powered off. then it is light reflecting from a window or a lamp somewhere.
post #7009 of 8802
Why would light in the room show a ring on the lower third/center of the screen? Sure, there'll be light reflected on the screen(from a lamp or outside), but that's all over the whole screen. I could see the light engine creating that while on. But while off?
post #7010 of 8802
I have the Mitsubishi 3D kit glasses using the IR emitter plugged into the back of the TV.

Just wondered what the best settings are for the 3D portion. I'm using a PS3 updated and have Verizon FIOS as well. Do I choose "automatic"? and leave the L-R settings as is, and IR emitter as well.

I see the 3D, and it looks great, but just want to verify that's all I need to do....

Thanks.
post #7011 of 8802
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Originally Posted by cinemascreen View Post
I have the Mitsubishi 3D kit glasses using the IR emitter plugged into the back of the TV.

Just wondered what the best settings are for the 3D portion. I'm using a PS3 updated and have Verizon FIOS as well. Do I choose "automatic"? and leave the L-R settings as is, and IR emitter as well.

I see the 3D, and it looks great, but just want to verify that's all I need to do....

Thanks.
I run mine (with PS3) on automatic and it seems to work well. The alternative is to switch it to whatever type of 3D content is being output, every time it changes... Lot more hassle. The auto setting seems to work well on mine anyway.
post #7012 of 8802
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Originally Posted by dkhbrit View Post

I just wish more TV channels were 1080p so we'd get the most out of the TV.

Ya there's not much that delivers true 1080p quality. Even within the same channel like HBO HD the quality differs between movies. At times it's like WOW nice pic other times I have to check and make sure I'm on the right channel.
post #7013 of 8802


Just thought id share what my set up looks like, i have a 60incher
post #7014 of 8802
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Originally Posted by du3ce View Post

Just thought id share what my set up looks like, i have a 60incher

That's a great way to use that space. Where do you get those little display stands for the blu-ray cases? I like the way you've done that and may want to do that for a few of mine.
post #7015 of 8802
i got it on ebay just search for plastic plate holder
post #7016 of 8802
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Originally Posted by du3ce View Post



Just thought id share what my set up looks like, i have a 60incher

Good job. Looks really nice,neat and organized.
post #7017 of 8802
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Originally Posted by du3ce View Post


Just thought id share what my set up looks like, i have a 60incher

It looks classy and purposeful, I like it!

It also looks like the joker has rabbit ears . I ended up putting my kinect sensor in front of the tv at the bottom, but either works. Enjoy!
post #7018 of 8802
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

Using the AVS disc I have the black dialed in perfectly, and I can see almost every step of white flashing but the last one. Color and tint are perfect also. I think next weekend I'll take some measurements and see how the grey scale and all the colors are set.

Is there more than one AVS disc?

I found this one on this site,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

I just want to be sure I'm downloading the correct one.

Thanks!
post #7019 of 8802
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Originally Posted by SwitchbladeHD View Post

Is there more than one AVS disc?

I found this one on this site,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

I just want to be sure I'm downloading the correct one.

Thanks!

That's what I'm using.
post #7020 of 8802
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Originally Posted by du3ce View Post



Just thought id share what my set up looks like, i have a 60incher

Looks very well organized. I'm curious how high up is that TV shelve? Is the viewing angle pretty decent still at that level?

Also I am curious where your DVD "towers" were purchased? Been looking for something about that style and have not been able to find any local at all.
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