Originally Posted by pcweber111
Are you talking to me?
If so all I can say is I don't really understand where the hostility is coming from.
Not hostility. Emphasis is rhetorical. I do wonder how information given in expository dialogue can not be understood as apparent on it's face...
I pretty much lay it out that I agree with you (more or less). Semantics aside a Xenomorph is just another word for Alien for all intents and purposes and they've clearly fought (or wiped out) aliens creatures in the past.
Xenomorph is a proper term in the Alien films referring to the Alien creature - it is not a generic term. Frost at the first briefing says "a what" when the Lt. mentions the term Xenomorph. That is because the term is unfamiliar to him, because it a proper noun given to this particular species in the Alien universe.
Their not understanding/knowing what the actual term is is not surprising as they're jarheads not scientists. Xenomorphs to them = bug. They're one and the same.
Sorry, this isn't true and there it is fairly tortured to suggest - the dialogue in the movie is very clear. They have never, ever seen this creature - in over 300 surveyed worlds per the Ripley debriefing dialogue.
The cunning of these aliens though combined with their overconfidence and lack of composure is what did them in.
You keep using aliens in a lower case term - Alien and Xenomorph in these films are proper nouns, even in the screenplay. Additionally, the Marines problems were primarily due to a complete lack of first hand experience information/intelligence - that, and being disarmed by their commander. I wouldn't really say they lacked composure - in fact, their composure is what got the survivors out alive. But the last part of this is really subjective opinion...
That and The Company probably specifically choosing them for these exact reasons. You are right though I didn't think this was too hard to understand.
The Company didn't choose them - the mission was under military control, not Company control. There is no reason to read more into this than is apparent in the script.
In short, it is inarguable, based on the script, to make a cogent case that the CM team had ever faced the Aliens before. It is spelled out clearly. That is, in fact, the greatest reason for their massacre in the Alien hive.