Originally Posted by FitzRoy
All grain and entire patterns on clothing are being smudged out by filtration and someone complains about the bitrate as if it's an equal problem... mega priority fail. A higher bitrate would not add 1% as much detail as an unfiltered transfer would.
I do think that many transfers are done so at artificially low bit rates and do wish to see more films average 30Mbps or more. When 15GB are left unused on a DL disc but the films bitrate hovers in the low 20s, or even teens, it is clear that that extra space could have been used to increase the bitrate and spruce up the PQ slightly. These aren't the days of VHS tape where the distributor could save a buck by duplicating the cassettes at EP speed to save a few yards of magnetic tape- if you use a DL disc, you might as well fill it to near-capacity.
However, it seems clear that bit rate is not the problem here.
I am not nearly as affected by the artifacting as many here. I did notice occasional halos in BTTF II & III, but that could possibly be because I was on the lookout due to the many negative posts here. However, the detail loss caused by the DNR is impossible to miss. It causes the entire trilogy to take on a soft, filtered look that is not at all film-like in the least.
The best Blu-Ray purchase some of us could make is a player WITHOUT a bit meter so that they can watch the movie and judge the PQ based on that.
An aside, a fable if you will: I had picked up Silence of the Lambs, one of the few of my "favorite" films available on Blu that I had yet to upgrade, at a bargain price the other day. I almost didn't make it through the check stand with it as I glanced at the back and noticed something appalling- MPEG2 @ 15Mbps... MPEG2 @ 15Mbps???!!! I thought that this would have to be an atrocious transfer- how could it not be if presented in an archaic codec at such a low bitrate. Well, I did pick it up hoping that it would at least be a bit better than the DVD presentation and I did watch it that night. Now, I won't say that it looks spectacular. It doesn't. However, it is a huge upgrade over the DVD and is a pleasant presentation throughout. Had I judged the release on bitrate alone, I never even would have purchased it, much less enjoyed it the way I did.
There is abundantly more detail evident in that low-bitrate MPEG2 encode than their is in the BTTF trilogy. And for that reason, while it may not be as "neat" or "clean", it looks much more like the film it was transferred from and, IMHO, much more what HD SHOULD look like.