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post #391 of 1064
It sounds like the free, bonus three month deal with an annual subscription is expiring soon, but apparently current subscribers can buy another 12+3 month deal if they re-up before the promotion ends (otherwise it'll be the normal twelve months for $50).

Ok Joe, im getting a little confused here so let me get this str8....

I have the "3 month bonus" with my 1yr sub, I subscribed the week this service went live. So with that being said, I "can stack the subscription" basically and wont have to renew til the year 2013?

If so, its a done deal, ill stack the subscription this weekend, you cant lose with a deal like that at all!
post #392 of 1064
Thread Starter 
The Sony rep mentioned it in four or five replies, so it must be a point she came in wanting to emphasize. I'll also double up today or tomorrow since it sounds like the deal is coming to an end.

The cool thing is, besides getting 30 months for the cost of 24 months, with all of the great PS+ discounts I'll likely have my second sub paid back to me before my first sub even ends!
post #393 of 1064
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

The Sony rep mentioned it in four or five replies, so it must be a point she came in wanting to emphasize. I'll also double up today or tomorrow since it sounds like the deal is coming to an end.

The cool thing is, besides getting 30 months for the cost of 24 months, with all of the great PS+ discounts I'll likely have my second sub paid back to me before my first sub even ends!




All I needed to read right there, even with getting the second sub now, it already has been paid off for me with all the free games and betas I have been in since I subscribed.

LOVING IT!!!
post #394 of 1064
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I just re-upped. Going to the Services tab in the XMB, it properly shows that it expires 30 months to the day from when I first signed up last summer. Since I've saved around $60 so far, I have until 2013 to save at least $40 more in PS+ game discounts to break even, then everything else will continue to be free.
post #395 of 1064
Can you renew online, or do you have to do it from your PS3?
post #396 of 1064
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

I just re-upped. Going to the Services tab in the XMB, it properly shows that it expires 30 months to the day from when I first signed up last summer. Since I've saved around $60 so far, I have until 2013 to save at least $40 more in PS+ game discounts to break even, then everything else will continue to be free.

Hell, I've already gotten enough discounts on stuff to pay for my second and third year of PS+...
post #397 of 1064
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Heh, who knows? Maybe you'll spend enough as a PS+ member in the next few years that they'll send you a launch PS4 for free.

In fact, a $50 discount on a launch PS4 for three year PS+ members would be an awesome marketing tool to get some people to sign up for it early on the next console.
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Can you renew online, or do you have to do it from your PS3?
It's purchased/renewed the same way you buy PSN games. I believe you can only do so through the PS3, unless Sony allows Amazon to sell it like they do a few titles.

EDIT: I just checked. Amazon sells PSN game codes, not games. You have to plug in the code and dload it through PSN. They do not have a PS+ membership code for sale.
post #398 of 1064
I'm curious, when you guys signed up for PS+, did you guys get anything in your email from Sony about having signed up?

I signed up a couple weeks ago and didn't receive anything. However, when I made a purchase in the PS Store, I got my invoice about said purchase.
post #399 of 1064
I just renewed last night and got the two emails regarding making a purchase and funding my account, but nothing other than those.
post #400 of 1064
Thread Starter 
If you go to the Account section of the XMB and look up your PS+ subscription purchase, it'll tell you your start and stop date. That's how you can verify your status.
post #401 of 1064
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

If you go to the Account section of the XMB and look up your PS+ subscription purchase, it'll tell you your start and stop date. That's how you can verify your status.

Not worried about status, just wanted to know if they sent out any email about anything when you subscribe. I just don't want to miss out on any invites that I get as a + member.
post #402 of 1064
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I see. No, I never received a welcome e-mail for joining or renewing, but I have gotten PS+ related beta invites. I'm sure you're on their contact list.
post #403 of 1064
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

I see. No, I never received a welcome e-mail for joining or renewing, but I have gotten PS+ related beta invites. I'm sure you're on their contact list.


That weird? I could of sworn I gotten a thanks for joining PS+ or I think that may have been rewards, I check and see if so later, I keeps all them emails just in case...
post #404 of 1064
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post
The goodies keep coming. On March 22 all of us PS+ members get early access to SOCOM 4's beta (even before the KZ3 pre-order peeps). The beta will let us play all four online modes (including the newly-revealed Bomb Squad) on two maps.
Picked the perfect time to join up, just got PSN+ a few days ago for the Castle Crashers deal and the cloud save storage. Looks like this is already paying off for me.
post #405 of 1064
How do I save to the Cloud exactly?
post #406 of 1064
Thread Starter 
Go to the saved files section of your XMB menu. Press triangle over a file you want in the clouds and the first colorful icon should be what you need. You have to manually do it for each save you want to keep, but only a few take more than a few seconds to save.
post #407 of 1064
"You have to manually do it for each save you want to keep"

And again with a completely botched solution by Sony. There is zero reason that every single one of my saves can't be backed up to the cloud instead of being capped at an arbitrary 150MB. There is also no reason that all saves shouldn't just be automatically synced to the cloud at the same time that the PS3 automatically checks for updates every two days.

Lazy bastards with their lazy half-ass solutions.
post #408 of 1064
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"You have to manually do it for each save you want to keep"

And again with a completely botched solution by Sony. There is zero reason that every single one of my saves can't be backed up to the cloud instead of being capped at an arbitrary 150MB. There is also no reason that all saves shouldn't just be automatically synced to the cloud at the same time that the PS3 automatically checks for updates every two days.

Lazy bastards with their lazy half-ass solutions.

Agreed, but it is still better than nothing.
post #409 of 1064
Not really. A solution that is such a kludge to use may as well not be a solution at all.

Hey, maybe I'm odd in expecting my software to work in a consumer friendly manner, right?
post #410 of 1064
I have a question. I just signed up for PS+ a couple of days ago and I'm wondering how the automatic downloads work. I noticed that my account downloaded the mag demo and a couple others. How does it choose which to download? Will it download the socom beta automatically Tuesday?
post #411 of 1064
Thread Starter 
It will dload any patches you are eligible to get during the two-hour/every-two-days time period you specify. It also dloads select demos once a week as well, but I'm not sure about betas.
post #412 of 1064
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

Agreed, but it is still better than nothing.

It's definitely a step in the right direction. I lost enough save files when my old 60gig died that this is a big appeal, even just as an easier way of backing up my more "oh ****!" save files (like Demon's Souls).

I'm very close to getting a PS+ account. I just need a couple more features and/or usability fixes to make it finally worthwhile to me. Free copies of games (that I already own) and cloud saves (with limited space and no auto-save) aren't quite enough. Out of curiosity, does a PS+ sub have any effect on download and sync speeds for those that have had trouble in the past?
post #413 of 1064
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Nope. Contact your internet service provider for additional assistance.
post #414 of 1064
"Out of curiosity, does a PS+ sub have any effect on download and sync speeds for those that have had trouble in the past?"

No. PSN still feeds me data at about a quarter to half my connection speed. Unlike Steam and Live, which will both saturate my ~15mbps line.

I'd say I'm stunned by just how lazy the cloud save feature was implemented, but it's Sony right? This is what I should expect. At the minimum you'd think that they'd look at their competitors cloud save solutions, pick Steam as the model, and say "Let's match that to start with". Anything less is just a retarded effort not worth the time.

CM - I'd still shy you away from PS+. While you get a bunch of free crap, it's all really just there to create the illusion of value. More often than not, you are wading through crap to get to the very occasional gem. Looking back, I'd say my $3 discount on Dead Nation, and early access to the very broken Hulu app have been the only things of note that I've gotten from the service. I haven't played Stacked yet though, so that may be another $10.

So $50 spent. $3 saved. And the opportunity to spend another $30 on broken Hulu before the rest of you. I'm 77 bucks in the hole on my PS+ subscription. The next 9 months better be damn special to make up that deficit.
post #415 of 1064
Another stupid anti-ps3 rant full of half truths and BS from darklordjames.
post #416 of 1064
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Originally Posted by tgable View Post

Another stupid anti-ps3 rant full of half truths and BS from darklordjames.

Funny, I was about to say the same thing.

Not sure why he posts here at all, but I guess he feels that he needs an audience to feel good.

Whatever.
post #417 of 1064
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post
I'd say I'm stunned by just how lazy the cloud save feature was implemented, but it's Sony right? This is what I should expect. At the minimum you'd think that they'd look at their competitors cloud save solutions, pick Steam as the model, and say "Let's match that to start with". Anything less is just a retarded effort not worth the time.
The fact that a console manufacturer is doing this is very exciting, no matter what a PC-based service like Steam is doing.

I imagine Sony is putting their toes in the water first just to make sure everything works. So we'll probably see limited storage space and manual saving for a while. Consider it a sort of "beta." After they work out all the kinks, they may do a more widespread and fully functional version of cloud saves. Probably for PS4?

But as is, the value proposition isn't quite there for me for PS+.

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Another stupid anti-ps3 rant full of half truths and BS from darklordjames.
He's harmless. At least his insults are aimed at Sony and not fellow posters.
post #418 of 1064
So who will be on the Socom beta in the next few days?
post #419 of 1064
Well I'm a 2 PS3 owner myself and so far everything darklordjames has said rings true to me. Half-arsed is apt a description as any for much Sony has done with the PS3.

5 years or so in and they still do not even have a proper volume control for the MP3 player. Custom soundtracks are sporadically supported. It's got Netflix but the only way to turn off friends alerts when you watch movies is to turn them off for the whole system. Backing up save games is a total pain in the ass as is managing files in general (and a big middle finger to protected saves). Download speeds from PSN are a total crapshoot though usually poor. Etc. etc. I would question that anyone that thinks the PS3 is a paradigm of interface design and general usability has not actually spent much time with the system.

Cheers
post #420 of 1064
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Originally Posted by deathindustrial View Post

I would question that anyone that thinks the PS3 is a paradigm of interface design and general usability has not actually spent much time with the system.

The design and usability of the UI are fantastic. Sure, there are some minor oversights with some features here and there, but overall, it's really great IMO.

By far the biggest problem is the network infrastructure. Sony gets away with a shoddy network only because they don't charge a subscription. And PS+ does nothing to fix any of those issues; it merely disguises them with a bunch of discounts, free games, and beta access codes. Even worse, PS+ is a win-win for Sony: not only do they get more money through subs and discounts, but they also avoid having to spend money on improving and maintaining a faster, better network.
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