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post #91 of 124
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

That is two in Atlanta. It probably wouldn't be to hard to round up another twenty people in the Atlanta area.

I'm in Atlanta too, but I probably will just "spank the Munki"

This thread is a wonderful resource. Many thanks to the wonderful posters who made it so any old idiot (like me ) can understand it.

Now if only some of the more ardent LCD vs Plasma honchos could be forced here...
post #92 of 124
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the people who helped me to decide on purchasing the CM. I received it last Friday and have calibrated 5 TVs during the long weekend; 3 SXRDs, 1 Sony LCD, and 1 Samsung LCD. Only grayscale though, none of them had CMS. I've got to say, they all now look ALOT better than when I calibrated them with my DisplayLT, Spyder2, and even an enhanced Spyder3. My test BR discs, Avatar, The Fifth Element, and Justin Timberlake at MSG (seriously, my wife bought this.....), look A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.


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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

But for lowlight, that's why we recomend profiling the c5 to the i1 and going from there (Being that the profile is created at 100% WRGB).

Question, is this specific to the c5 and i1? In Calman4, when I use the profile function with my CM, it asks for 75% WRGB.
post #93 of 124
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

....and Justin Timberlake at MSG (seriously, my wife bought this.....)

Sure she did
post #94 of 124
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

Thanks for the people who helped me to decide on purchasing the CM. I received it last Friday and have calibrated 5 TVs during the long weekend; 3 SXRDs, 1 Sony LCD, and 1 Samsung LCD. Only grayscale though, none of them had CMS. I've got to say, they all now look ALOT better than when I calibrated them with my DisplayLT, Spyder2, and even an enhanced Spyder3. My test BR discs, Avatar, The Fifth Element, and Justin Timberlake at MSG (seriously, my wife bought this.....), look A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.




Question, is this specific to the c5 and i1? In Calman4, when I use the profile function with my CM, it asks for 75% WRGB.

doh, you're right 75% is the default, but you can change it with the drop down if you want to do it at 100%.
post #95 of 124
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Originally Posted by N3W813 View Post

My test BR discs, Avatar, The Fifth Element, and Justin Timberlake at MSG (seriously, my wife bought this.....), look A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.

But you were watching enough to add it looks amazing.
post #96 of 124
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

In the future, I suggest you research information before you attempt to make such a foolish post as you did below.

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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Perhaps not for your situation, however you would be amazed at how little difference there is between an i1pro and a PR-655 or 670 when the measurements are within the light capabilities of the i1pro.

Right back at you. It's becoming very obvious with every post that you have not done your research on this subject.

30fL - Top with i1 Pro 10nm, Middle 5nm (such as PR-655) and Bottom 1nm.







You might not be able to tell the difference in the Top and Middle (and the bottom), but I sure bet everyone else can.
post #97 of 124
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Originally Posted by Bob Sorel View Post

So there are a few things that I now consider:

3. ANY meter can be made somewhat more accurate by profiling, whether it be to a more accurate meter on the spot or with offset tables from a 5 nm "reference" meter.[/i]

Again, you are missing the big point. Every model display has a different Spectral Fingerprint. Here are 2 different Panasonic Plasma models from last year, which do you want to profile to, because then measuring the other with a "profiled" meter will be incorrect.





Or perhaps, do you want to profile it to a Samsung Plasma from last year?




Or then again, perhaps you want it profiled to a JVC D-ILA model?



Regardless, whatever you profile it to is THE ONLY MODEL SET that it will be correct to.

Thus when D-Nice profiles his Klein to a PR-655 for 1 model, it will be incorrect for the next model (and besides that, the K-10 has other issues as well which he has not discovered yet).
post #98 of 124
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

Right back at you. It's becoming very obvious with every post that you have not done your research on this subject.

30fL - Top with i1 Pro 10nm, Middle 5nm (such as PR-655) and Bottom 1nm...

So, is it possible to correlate these results to the differences you might encounter when doing a calibration with a profiled color meter, e.g., the K-10, against a 10 nm (i1 Pro) and either a 5 nm or 1 nm spec?

I'd really be interested to SEE the difference you're alluding to at the level of calibration in terms of dE or x/y differences. I think that might make some of the theoretical arguments a little more concrete and bring things to a more suitable level of practicality (well, for me, anyway) from a calibrators POV.

(I ask b/c it seems you have access to the equipment to do something like that.)

Best,
Greg
post #99 of 124
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

(and besides that, the K-10 has other issues as well which he has not discovered yet).

Which is....?
post #100 of 124
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Again, you are missing the big point. Every model display has a different Spectral Fingerprint.

So from your graphs the only reasonable thing I can conclude is that to do a proper job I would need a 1 nm meter (is there any such thing?) and that a 5 nm meter would be somewhat useful, though certainly not great, and that anything less is totally worthless.

Also, are you saying that profiling a 5 nm reference meter against a tristim field meter (for example) on let's say, a JVC RS-20 has ZERO value when measuring an RS-35?
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I'd really be interested to SEE the difference you're alluding to at the level of calibration in terms of dE or x/y differences. I think that might make some of the theoretical arguments a little more concrete and bring things to a more suitable level of practicality (well, for me, anyway) from a calibrators POV.

Me too...
post #101 of 124
Bob,

There are several 1nm optical bandwidth instruments ie Minolta CS-1000, CS-2000, Progressive Labs Microspec, and a few others. This is not to be confused with spectral bandwidth which for the listed instruments are 5nm. Plotting data from a PR-655/670 which reports data in 2nm increments due to the detector which it uses vs the 1nm reporting of the competitors products provides a graph which does not provide the fine details which you see in the examples provided.

Regarding using a profiled instrument to measure two JVC projectors that are similar as long as the lamps are identical you should get reasonably accurate results. The differences in the spectral profile of each projectors lamp is what would account for the measured differences.

What you can see in the spectral plots provided in the thread are that there are significant differences in the Red with the JVC lamp providing a much broader spectral distribution when you observe the Red then the plasma panels plots which are quite spikey in nature. When the data which created these plots is converted to xyY information there can be a significant difference when using the profile made for one display when measuring another!

On certain model displays which are very spikey in nature (such as the plasma example) spectrally the 10nm instruments such as an i1Pro will have included errors where it is not able to discern the spikes which may lie closer together then the bandwidth of the instrument. This will smear the two adjacent spikes together causing an error in the data. The differences can be quite significant and could only be demonstrated by measuring a large cross section of displays which demonstrate the type of spectral issues noted with instruments such as an i1Pro and Minolta comparing the results. Making profiles for one display for a tristimulus product and using it on another display type leaves one with a high degree of uncertainty as you have no way of knowing if the profile will work correctly or not. Is the profile a "perfect" fit, is it "close enough", or is it simply terrible?
post #102 of 124
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

Right back at you. It's becoming very obvious with every post that you have not done your research on this subject.

30fL - Top with i1 Pro 10nm, Middle 5nm (such as PR-655) and Bottom 1nm.

Been there done that. Show me the raw numbers. Better yet, I will be more than happy to bring my PR-655 (5nm), i1pro, and K-10 to do live comparisions with whatever you choose to bring. Just name the place and date.
post #103 of 124
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Originally Posted by ghibliss View Post

Making profiles for one display for a tristimulus product and using it on another display type leaves one with a high degree of uncertainty as you have no way of knowing if the profile will work correctly or not. Is the profile a "perfect" fit, is it "close enough", or is it simply terrible?

I do not think anyone in this thread is saying this should be done. I know I haven't and have not with my K-10.
post #104 of 124
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

Thus when D-Nice profiles his Klein to a PR-655 for 1 model, it will be incorrect for the next model (and besides that, the K-10 has other issues as well which he has not discovered yet).

I have a 5nm PR-655. I have created tables for my K-10 for each display tech I calibrate. I do not use an LCD table on a plasma or a LED table on a CCFL LCD. I do not know of anyone in this thread that does.

And since you claim there is a problem that the K-10 has that I have yet to encounter, spill the beans.

BTW, I already know who you are. Try posting under your other active AVS username instead of hiding under this one.
post #105 of 124
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I have a 5nm PR-655. I have created tables for my K-10 for each display tech I calibrate. I do not use an LCD table on a plasma or a LED table on a CCFL LCD. I do not know of anyone in this thread that does.

And since you claim there is a problem that the K-10 has that I have yet to encounter, spill the beans.

BTW, I already know who you are. Try posting under your other active AVS username instead of hiding under this one.

Again, as shown, even 2 different Panasonic Plasma Models have different Spectral Radiance. To profile one and calibrate another is foolhearty, especially with the issues the K-10 has, which causes further issues.

As for your last sentence, it shows once again, you have failed to do proper research.
post #106 of 124
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Originally Posted by Bob Sorel View Post

So from your graphs the only reasonable thing I can conclude is that to do a proper job I would need a 1 nm meter (is there any such thing?) and that a 5 nm meter would be somewhat useful, though certainly not great, and that anything less is totally worthless.

Also, are you saying that profiling a 5 nm reference meter against a tristim field meter (for example) on let's say, a JVC RS-20 has ZERO value when measuring an RS-35?

Me too...

Don't forget history.

15 years one might go solely by eyeballing the gray scale with no reference.

10 or so years ago you had an optical comparator, still eyeballing it to match the reference.

Then the pucks came along that used filters to compare against a reference. You will remember that at that time, essentially CRT was the form factor. LCDs with their cfl had a different Spectral Radiance so there was a different puck (Remember the Colorpro III/IVs).

But since then, CRTs disappeared, Plasma grew in popularity, LCDs began to use LEDs as well as cfl, Lasers, OLED, SXRD, countless different types of lamps, even Sharp putting adding Yellow have given as more differences than that technology could hope to keep up with.

Thus, the real question is why would you even WANT to use a meter profiled in 2010 as opposed to a state of the art SpectroRadioMeter with good resolution?

That is sort of like using an X-Ray instead of a MRI.

What D-Nice doesnt tell you is that he does not want to use a PR-655 to calibrate your set as the reading for that particular unit takes to long for a reading and he wants to be in and out of your house in several hours, so he uses a K-10 which returns a quick reading, despite other issues the meter has that apparently he is unaware of.

If I were paying for a calibration, I'd want it done right, not worrying about the time it took.

As for would a meter profiled on a RS-20 work better than the default for a RS-35, that answer depends on how close the default setting are to the RS-35, right? But then again, why use 10 year old technology in 2010 when you can have a MRI instead of an X-Ray?
post #107 of 124
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Been there done that. Show me the raw numbers.

Well apparently you are the only one that cannot see how poorly 10nm resolution such as the i1 Pro compares 5nm resolution in the charts above, but if its raw data you want (sounds like a deflection to me), but here you go:

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post #108 of 124
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

No this is just FUD, that is being spread around.

It's not FUD..

I don't appreciate the fact that you posted this and contrary to a 'real' issue.

It's now being handled by SpectraCal.
post #109 of 124
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

Well apparently you are the only one that cannot see how poorly 10nm resolution such as the i1 Pro compares 5nm resolution in the charts above, but if its raw data you want (sounds like a deflection to me), but here you go:

JustVisitingHere,

Your charts certainly show the difference between the 10nm, 5nm and 1nm tools. The question that I have is, what do they translate to when measured in x,y and Y on a particular display between the 3 tools. For an enthusiast that does not have the cash to spend even on a 5nm tool and in my case living way out in Malaysia where buying a 5nm tool is equivalent to me buying a condo to live in, is the Delta E significant, say on a plasma or a projector...

I can only imagine how much it would cost to by a 1nm tool!
post #110 of 124
Actually they don't.... Especially when each spectral chart posted for his "comparison" has different scales. That and the fact he is still posting under an alias when he could easily post under his regular AVS name just makes his "data" even more bogus. Ask him to make himself available for a "shootout".

I must say though, his posts have been a good laugh the past two mornings.
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Originally Posted by venkatesh_m View Post

JustVisitingHere,

Your charts certainly show the difference between the 10nm, 5nm and 1nm tools. The question that I have is, what do they translate to when measured in x,y and Y on a particular display between the 3 tools. For an enthusiast that does not have the cash to spend even on a 5nm tool and in my case living way out in Malaysia where buying a 5nm tool is equivalent to me buying a condo to live in, is the Delta E significant, say on a plasma or a projector...

I can only imagine how much it would cost to by a 1nm tool!
post #111 of 124
I don't want to take the time? I'm not one of those calibrators that puts time limits on calibrations. I sit there until the calibration is at a point where I would be happy with that particular set in my home. I also would not take subpar equipment into one of my clients home. For instance the K-10 did not make into what I call my "Production" tool kit until it passed 80 full hours of my testing on multiple display types. I'm not sure what problem you saw on the one K-10 you encountered, but the only issues I had with it was due to the software I'm using with it (resolved) and Vendor loaded tables. Obce I loaded my own tables (based on a 5nm PR-655), problems solved.

Do you have any additional posts I can laugh at?
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Originally Posted by JustVisitingHere View Post

Don't forget history.

15 years one might go solely by eyeballing the gray scale with no reference.

10 or so years ago you had an optical comparator, still eyeballing it to match the reference.

Then the pucks came along that used filters to compare against a reference. You will remember that at that time, essentially CRT was the form factor. LCDs with their cfl had a different Spectral Radiance so there was a different puck (Remember the Colorpro III/IVs).

But since then, CRTs disappeared, Plasma grew in popularity, LCDs began to use LEDs as well as cfl, Lasers, OLED, SXRD, countless different types of lamps, even Sharp putting adding Yellow have given as more differences than that technology could hope to keep up with.

Thus, the real question is why would you even WANT to use a meter profiled in 2010 as opposed to a state of the art SpectroRadioMeter with good resolution?

That is sort of like using an X-Ray instead of a MRI.

What D-Nice doesnt tell you is that he does not want to use a PR-655 to calibrate your set as the reading for that particular unit takes to long for a reading and he wants to be in and out of your house in several hours, so he uses a K-10 which returns a quick reading, despite other issues the meter has that apparently he is unaware of.

If I were paying for a calibration, I'd want it done right, not worrying about the time it took.

As for would a meter profiled on a RS-20 work better than the default for a RS-35, that answer depends on how close the default setting are to the RS-35, right? But then again, why use 10 year old technology in 2010 when you can have a MRI instead of an X-Ray?
post #112 of 124
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Actually they don't.... Especially when each spectral chart posted for his "comparison" has different scales. That and the fact he is still posting under an alias when he could easily post under his regular AVS name just makes his "data" even more bogus. Ask him to make himself available for a "shootout".

I must say though, his posts have been a good laugh the past two mornings.

Wow...do I feel dumb, never occurred to me that the scales were different.

Hopefully, JustVisitingHere can post some actual x,y,Y differences using the different resolution meters. At the moment, even with finer resolution (its smoother), but the peaks seem similar in values.
post #113 of 124
I really fail to comprehend why this thread has dissolved into argument somewhat.

More accuracy costs more money.

You pays your money you takes your choice: a $100 sensor is still a better bet than your eyeballs.

And there is a point when you are trying to pick fly crap out of pepper.
post #114 of 124
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Originally Posted by Mr.D View Post

You pays your money you takes your choice: a $100 sensor is still a better bet than your eyeballs.

And there is a point when you are trying to pick fly crap out of pepper.

So, as you are looking at the result with your eyeballs and $100 sensor is better, then is there need for further improvement? Any opinions on the sweet spot?

And while I am at it, isn't human eye more like a tristim device? I would expect spectral analysis at 1 nm level to be bit of overkill for AV purposes.
post #115 of 124
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Originally Posted by karrih View Post

So, as you are looking at the result with your eyeballs and $100 sensor is better, then is there need for further improvement? Any opinions on the sweet spot?

And while I am at it, isn't human eye more like a tristim device? I would expect spectral analysis at 1 nm level to be bit of overkill for AV purposes.

Ahh! This is the trap!
Knowing that there are better (higher precision) meters, what is the price/benefit?

One starts out with a Spyder 2 and sees an improvement. Then you start thinking "hmm, how much better would this look using that i1pro or C5 I've been reading about?"

Before you know it, you've spent more on the instruments and software than the cost of the display!

I'd say that unless you are going to be using the equipment on more than just your display, get it professionally calibrated and enjoy your display!
post #116 of 124
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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

Ahh! This is the trap!
Knowing that there are better (higher precision) meters, what is the price/benefit?

One starts out with a Spyder 2 and sees an improvement. Then you start thinking "hmm, how much better would this look using that i1pro or C5 I've been reading about?"

Before you know it, you've spent more on the instruments and software than the cost of the display!

Lee....
No truer words have been typed on this forum.

RayJr
post #117 of 124
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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

I'd say that unless you are going to be using the equipment on more than just your display, get it professionally calibrated and enjoy your display!

For the record, I have ColorMunki and i1LT, which I use for my own displays. I am pleased with this combo and have no plans to upgrade.
post #118 of 124
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

It's not FUD..

I don't appreciate the fact that you posted this and contrary to a 'real' issue.

It's now being handled by SpectraCal.

The statement was that all our chroma 5s are bad, because we don't know how to calibrate them.

That is FUD.

If someone has a bad meter, we always support them, we alway have had that type of customer service. This is nothing new. Customer service has always been a top priority.
post #119 of 124
The issue is with them on Pioneers and some other Plasmas - my focus is on the Pioneers.

The reports are from actual meter owners, including Professional Calibrators. That is not FUD

It's now being handled by SpectraCal.
post #120 of 124
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

The issue is with them on Pioneers and some other Plasmas - my focus is on the Pioneers.

The reports are from actual meter owners, including Professional Calibrators. That is not FUD

It's now being handled by SpectraCal.

If you are refering to this post
http://www.spectracal.com/forum/view...tart=60#p13715

Like I said above. Our c5's are accurate as anyones. We've always taken care of people whenever they've had problems or doubts about their hardware.

If you have any questions feel free to pm me.
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