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Looks like this set is done. Sony Europe have instructed dealers to stop taking orders for the HX900 and have been told a new model will be out Q1 2011 to replace it. Also applies to 60LX900.
post #1292 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Chronoptimist View Post

Looks like this set is done. Sony Europe have instructed dealers to stop taking orders for the HX900 and have been told a new model will be out Q1 2011 to replace it. Also applies to 60LX900.

Indeed! from best buy magnolia, deleted sku.

I think, this is end of the last hurrah , greatest mohican.

sony will be adding google tv and shove edge lit only xbr down our throats, the way they did xbr9 and 10s!

My 52 inch is on its way from sony direct!

What cables now?
post #1293 of 2886
What is google tv anyway?
post #1294 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Viper2847 View Post

What is google tv anyway?

http://www.tested.com/first-look-at-...gle-tv/47-175/
post #1295 of 2886
Still sitting in the box, waiting patiently for me to be off for more than just a few hours (to be able to play, not just sleep)

Pulled the trigger, and then it gets pulled... story of my life!

Still haven't seen the set in action here at home, but still thrilled I got it. (I had initially hoped for full array RBG, but PQ with white, by all indications, has equil if not superior picture)

I'm just wondering if they will go back to full array RBG in the high end unit. That would be the only thing that would make me regret my purchase. But I doubt that they will go back down that road. Atleast not next year.

UV2A panel supply troubles? Might be the end of that too!

This may truely be the last chance to get the best LED set on the market. I lost the opportunity with the XBR 8, but thankfully the HX909 came along.

All comes down to: Will there be a contender from Sony in 2011? Sorry, I'm afraid not. Probably afew model years down the road again (Think XBR 8, then 9 & 10, then HX...)

I had become a professional fence sitter... watching from the side lines as everything passed me by! I learned one valuable thing thou... sitting on the fence can make you a pain in the *** !

If you are on the fence, ya might want to take the plunge. It is true, all good things come to he who waits... but the waiting is hard, and sometimes really, really, almost painfully long.
post #1296 of 2886
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Originally Posted by AVTrauma View Post

Still sitting in the box, waiting patiently for me to be off for more than just a few hours (to be able to play, not just sleep)

Pulled the trigger, and then it gets pulled... story of my life!

Still haven't seen the set in action here at home, but still thrilled I got it. (I had initially hoped for full array RBG, but PQ with white, by all indications, has equil if not superior picture)

I'm just wondering if they will go back to full array RBG in the high end unit. That would be the only thing that would make me regret my purchase. But I doubt that they will go back down that road. Atleast not next year.

UV2A panel supply troubles? Might be the end of that too!

This may truely be the last chance to get the best LED set on the market. I lost the opportunity with the XBR 8, but thankfully the HX909 came along.

All comes down to: Will there be a contender from Sony in 2011? Sorry, I'm afraid not. Probably afew model years down the road again (Think XBR 8, then 9 & 10, then HX...)

I had become a professional fence sitter... watching from the side lines as everything passed me by! I learned one valuable thing thou... sitting on the fence can make you a pain in the *** !

If you are on the fence, ya might want to take the plunge. It is true, all good things come to he who waits... but the waiting is hard, and sometimes really, really, almost painfully long.

I personally liked q, colors , black level on 909. I never paid that price for 55 inch xbr vs 52 inch. IMHO it will be most likely best led evervlike my pioneer elite kuro 151
post #1297 of 2886
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Wow this looks lame. Why is Sony getting involved in this bs??
post #1298 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Viper2847 View Post

Wow this looks lame. Why is Sony getting involved in this bs??

The reason is simple. There's a huge segment of the consumer market place shifting from paid subscriptions (cable and satellite) to more À la carte viewing habits. People on the go, the younger generations and folks that just don't watch a lot of television in the more traditional sense - and who are sick and tired of paying in upperwards of 100 bux a month for packaged (tiered) content. Remember what happened to the music industry with the advent of mp3s and sharing sites? The same sort of revolution is well underway with television and video. They're doing it (internet TVs) because there's money in it...
post #1299 of 2886
+1 Yes, the huge satellite/cable cost per month thing is starting to get old, they've been holding us over the barrel for long enough. Paying more = getting less... I think that they're taking while the taking is good. Hopefully things will get more competitive with home entertainment/programming in the near future, thus forcing these bigs to lower their prices. I apologize in advance for this rant & getting off of topic here. This just pushed a button & I couldn't resist!
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

The reason is simple. There's a huge segment of the consumer market place shifting from paid subscriptions (cable and satellite) to more À la carte viewing habits. People on the go, the younger generations and folks that just don't watch a lot of television in the more traditional sense - and who are sick and tired of paying in upperwards of 100 bux a month for packaged (tiered) content. Remember what happened to the music industry with the advent of mp3s and sharing sites? The same sort of revolution is well underway with television and video. They're doing it because there's money in it...

So with google TV the difference is that you pay a cheaper subscription that cable/sat per month and you get a wider variety of content to stream online?

Seems like a good thing to get into, but those internet TV's do look butt ugly by design...
post #1301 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Viper2847 View Post

So with google TV the difference is that you pay a cheaper subscription that cable/sat per month and you get a wider variety of content to stream online?

Seems like a good thing to get into, but those internet TV's do look butt ugly by design...

You pay for what you want. An example, say you don't watch tv all week do to work. On the weekend you would just pay to watch a episode/tv series or a movie. Instead of a $100 a month for watching tv 8 days a month(weekends).
post #1302 of 2886
A high end TV plus a set top box from logitech (or Sony's BD player that has google TV built in) would be a much better choice......

I just don't understand why Sony thinks that people don't care about PQ anymore and all they want is a "Feature TV".....
post #1303 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Holy bear View Post

A high end TV plus a set top box from logitech (or Sony's BD player that has google TV built in) would be a much better choice......

I just don't understand why Sony thinks that people don't care about PQ anymore and all they want is a "Feature TV".....

On your first proposition:
Not if you want to save money and keep things simple.

And on the second part:
Because, believe it or not (and very similiar to the MP3 generations way of thinking), the utmost in quality isn't as important as the simple pleasure of enjoying the entertainment and/or getting the content at a reduced cost - or in many cases for free. Plus, if you've noticed, these internet TVs from sony are relatively small thereby making the picture quality a moot point. Internet streams by the way have greatly improved. Not BD quality mind you but certainly nothing to shake a stick at. The bottom line is these new television appliances fulfill the wants and needs of a big enough market segment to justify their existence - otherwise they wouldn't be producing them. It's not a matter of ignoring the folks wanting quality, they cater to those folks with what they want too, but it's more to do with recognizing that there's a pretty large group of other consumers that aren't nearly as anal about PQ as the rest of us (and I say that last part proudly).
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I too have been curious as to why Sony seems to shoot themselves in the foot... or some other vital place... with considerable consistancy! They take a product to the height of greatness, only to loose out by poor marketing and PR efforts. Then they make matters worse by pulling the plug on it because it's expensive and it didn't live up to their raised expectations (that they have a cash cow just waiting to throw money their way). Quality is the first topic... think HX 909, XBR 8, or even the grand daddy of this trend, Beta Hifi VCR's. But it is very short lived!
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I have a line on an open-box HX909 from a sonystyle store. Very good price--supposedly never used or taken out, but they opened the box to give someone the stand. So there is no stand. And for various reasons I can't wall mount.

I called Sony online, and they have no stand to sell me.

So, anyone want to sell me an HX909 stand they don't need? If so, PM me.

Thanks,

Andy
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Originally Posted by angedc View Post

I have a line on an open-box HX909 from a sonystyle store. Very good price--supposedly never used or taken out, but they opened the box to give someone the stand. So there is no stand. And for various reasons I can't wall mount.

I called Sony online, and they have no stand to sell me.

So, anyone want to sell me an HX909 stand they don't need? If so, PM me.

Thanks,

Andy

I actually have one extra one coming. The one from my TV box had a very small dent. I should be here next week. It's a 52" stand.
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Originally Posted by loudog2 View Post

I actually have one extra one coming. The one from my TV box had a very small dent. I should be here next week. It's a 52" stand.

Thanks--check for a PM. (I guess it's possible to get extra stands. The store and sonystyle on-line did not seem to know how to get one).
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post


What cables now?

Don't spend much on HDMI cables for video... I've got HDMI cables that range from $0 to $875 and they are all identical re. video. The $0 cable came in a box with an HD-DVD player, so maybe it's really a $1 cable.

Movie sound isn't much influenced by the cable either. Music... that's a different ballgame. The cables I have that sound best with music are the expensive ones. But you can easily select which cables are worth spending extra on to get better-sounding music playback and which are video-only and don't much matter for sound.

For example... sound from cable/satellite is nothing special and nothing to worry about spending extra on the cable. If you are using an AVR or surround processor, the cable between the AVR/processor and the TV doesn't need to be expensive. If you have a Blu-ray disc player and don't use it for music, pretty much any HDMI cable will be fine.

I'm partial to HDMI cables from www.monoprice.com. You can get perfectly good HDMI cables for $3.04-$6.99 for 6-foot cables. Just get the high-speed cables (not standard speed). The more expensive models are less flexible and not really needed for shorter cable runs like 15 feet or shorter. The $3.04 cables are available in a wide range of colors making them useful for systems where there are several components - the color makes identifying the component easy.

The DH Labs HDMI cable is nice for music and not ridiculously expensive. I also like AudioQuest and Wireworld HDMI cables for music, but not even a $500+ AudioQuest cable does anything for video or much of anything for movie sound. If you are playing music back from a computer, you don't need ANY fancy HDMI cables. But it's absolutely freaky how much the USB cable changes the sound (if you are using USB to play the music into a USB DAC). On the other hand, if you are using Ethernet to play music, I've never heard any Ethernet cable make any difference at all in the sound quality of music and Monoprice.com has some dirt cheap Ethernet cables that are just as good as any I've used.
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Originally Posted by Viper2847 View Post

@Guibs
I guess your talking about this guy?

@Quexex i think you said a while ago that you would get some more accurate testing done to confirm that there is no additional input lag in game mode with local dimming set to "standard". Did you get around to this yet?

Thanks in advance.

I've not testing anything yet but I did notice while viewing off angle that the local dimming LED's change slightly later than the main LCD image. The best way to see this is off angle during the credits (scrolling white text on a black background).

This is important as it goes some way to confirming my suspicions that the LED's are lit based on the LCD image after it has been displayed and the LCD image isn't being delayed to allow the LED's to be lit perfectly in line with it. Which means that the LED backlighting is not adding to the latency.

I wouldn't say it for certain but it's inline with the other tests I've run.
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Confirmed today that Fry's is blowing out the 52HX909 for $2399.00; that's a HUGE drop in price from the original MSRP. Huge!
Couldn't believe my eyes, but there it was...
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

Confirmed today that Fry's is blowing out the 52HX909 for $2399.00; that's HUGE drop in price from the original MSRP. Huge!
Couldn't believe my eyes, but there it was...

hmm hopefully those prices will reflect in canada as well.
post #1312 of 2886
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

Confirmed today that Fry's is blowing out the 52HX909 for $2399.00; that's a HUGE drop in price from the original MSRP. Huge!
Couldn't believe my eyes, but there it was...

The price for the 52HX909 is $3598 on their site right now.
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Originally Posted by loudog2 View Post

The price for the 52HX909 is $3598 on their site right now.

In-store price....
post #1314 of 2886
Where can I find the calibration details for the 52HX900's?
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Originally Posted by Chronoptimist View Post

Looks like this set is done. Sony Europe have instructed dealers to stop taking orders for the HX900 and have been told a new model will be out Q1 2011 to replace it. Also applies to 60LX900.

Are they killing the back lit LED sets off completely? I was liking this set, but if they are planning another back lit set bigger than 52 than that might be even better.
post #1316 of 2886
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Originally Posted by Chronoptimist View Post

Looks like this set is done. Sony Europe have instructed dealers to stop taking orders for the HX900 and have been told a new model will be out Q1 2011 to replace it. Also applies to 60LX900.

I wonder if this is due to the lack of consumer interest in 3D tv's?
post #1317 of 2886
My Fry's (Portland Ore) had it on sale last week at 2399.00... now back to same price listed on the web site. Never saw it in an add, either! Just heard rumors, went to check it out... sign on the set also list price! Asked about sale, confirmed. I asked about 3D package included, confirmed. Told 'em to bring mine out, I'm ready to go home now.
Is this the end of backlit?... What about UV2A? Gonna be a long time till another panel this good or even better quality comes along I think (and I too would love it to be larger than my 52')!
So if you are considering this set... For that price... You can't go wrong.
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Originally Posted by Chronoptimist View Post

Looks like this set is done. Sony Europe have instructed dealers to stop taking orders for the HX900 and have been told a new model will be out Q1 2011 to replace it. Also applies to 60LX900.

So any idea what panel will replace the Sharp panel in the new HX line? This seems quite crucial especially for those of us making a decision on whether to get the TV now or wait a couple of months.
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Originally Posted by RudyG View Post

So any idea what panel will replace the Sharp panel in the new HX line? This seems quite crucial especially for those of us making a decision on whether to get the TV now or wait a couple of months.

Sony has a new further alliance with AUO. I suppose that we can expect the new A-MVA5 Panel. After Summer 2011.
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Brand new review on the HX909 at Hometheatermag.com:

http://www.hometheatermag.com/3d-fla...9_lcd_3d_hdtv/

Some minor issues on this Sonyprimarily that off-axis thing and the head-tilt phenomenonmight justifiably concern some viewers. There's no denying that being at the cutting edge of 3D playback still costs more than an excellent 2D set. But the BRAVIA XBR-52HX909 is so superb in so many respectscolor, resolution, and in particular, those gorgeous blacksthat it's hard to resist.
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