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post #2461 of 2895
what is the input lag on this set?
post #2462 of 2895
The speed is pretty good. It is faster than my Dune media player since that keeps disconnecting (HDMI) since the Dune is slow as heck. My Popcorn Hour doesn't disconnect like my Dune, but I keep both players. Usually you'll get a pretty instant response from using the remote.
post #2463 of 2895
Anybody know where to buy hx909 power adapter cable???
post #2464 of 2895
Kcal9 ambient sensor off
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post #2465 of 2895
I don't use anything that controls the lighting of the TV automatically. I did have used them before but sometimes the smallest amount of light or change in the room would drastically change the picture. Way too much in my opinion. Since where the TV sits, the lighting does change often since I have a bay of windows where some sun does come in.

If you have a closed off room with no windows and watch TV in the dark, no reason to use those kind of features anyway.
post #2466 of 2895
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post #2467 of 2895
I've been reading on the HX929 forum page and the members over there are talking about uniformity. What exactly is that and do our 909 suffer from that if so i'd like to know what it is so I can be on the lookout. Thanks
post #2468 of 2895
From what I've read uniformity problems are edge lit tv's being brighter around the edges and darker in the middle. I see no uniformity issues with my 909.
post #2469 of 2895
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Originally Posted by Budman1962 View Post

From what I've read uniformity problems are edge lit tv's being brighter around the edges and darker in the middle. I see no uniformity issues with my 909.

Huh I wonder why this topic is being brought up on the HX929
post #2470 of 2895
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Originally Posted by cbnboy1982 View Post

I've been reading on the HX929 forum page and the members over there are talking about uniformity. What exactly is that and do our 909 suffer from that if so i'd like to know what it is so I can be on the lookout. Thanks

I've used the light and dark grey patterns from the AVS-HD calibration disk and I could not find any problems at all with uniformity across the screen. From what I can tell, the only guy pushing the issue is some kind of Samsung fanboy.
post #2471 of 2895
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Originally Posted by Trepanator View Post


I've used the light and dark grey patterns from the AVS-HD calibration disk and I could not find any problems at all with uniformity across the screen. From what I can tell, the only guy pushing the issue is some kind of Samsung fanboy.

Coo I'm glad to hear that makes me feel even more comfortable
post #2472 of 2895
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Originally Posted by Trepanator View Post

I've used the light and dark grey patterns from the AVS-HD calibration disk and I could not find any problems at all with uniformity across the screen. From what I can tell, the only guy pushing the issue is some kind of Samsung fanboy.

I know I have been talking about the DSE / uniformity issues with the 929 and I am NOT a samsung fanboy lol. Im sure the 909 has it too, I am picking up the 52hx909 tomorrow and I am already prepared to see it sadly. As long as it is better then my previous pro111 then that will be great.

You know, just because someone brings up a flaw with a tv doesnt mean they are a fanboy of another company or has an alternative motive.

If your so confident the DSE/uniformity is a made up myth then try the two videos posted in the 929 thread. I promise your 909 has it too, just a flaw in the tech, as each tv has its own flaws.
post #2473 of 2895
While there may be noisy source video content that can cause DSE on the hx929, I have been watching all sorts of BLu-Rays, HD TV Programming, SD Programming, and I know DSE and uniformity are not a problem with my 46hx929.

Then again I don't run any edge/global detail enhancement, and I run sharpness well below the factory (50) setting, but not off.
post #2474 of 2895
So I went to BB today and saw the HX929. I'm happy to say the PQ looked very much like my HX909, to me I didn't see no diff except it looked a bit on the cheap side when it comes to build quality. I can honestly say my HX909 build quality is WAY better.

Here are some pics I took with my Galaxy phone.
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post #2475 of 2895
So I just bought a HX909 from the Sony Style store here in Houston. It was a display model 52 inches, but I got the 5 year warranty plus a display model sound bar model HT-CT350 (I know its for 40 inch TV's and mines a 52, but it fits on my stand so i'll take it) for a total of around $1500 after tax.

I was pretty happy with the price. Especially for what I consider to be the best LED TV of 2010.

So my first question was, is this TV freaking amazing or what?

Secondly, how the hell do I clean the screen!? its a beautiful 52 inches, and I would like it to be as streak free as possible. any good suggestions on what to use?

Thirdly, am I safe buying a display model? It's in good shape, but it was on the floor for probably more than 6 months. I got the 5 year warranty with it (it was required) but is the warranty worth it?

And lastly, are the firmware updates and calibration dvd's really worth it?

Thanks for the help and reviews guys, this TV is awesome, especially for 1/3 of the price of the hx929 (although you get 3 more inches diagonally and slightly better viewing angles and less blooming, and a new xreality pro engine)
post #2476 of 2895
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Originally Posted by mo4show View Post
So I just bought a HX909 from the Sony Style store here in Houston. It was a display model 52 inches, but I got the 5 year warranty plus a display model sound bar model HT-CT350 (I know its for 40 inch TV's and mines a 52, but it fits on my stand so i'll take it) for a total of around $1500 after tax.

I was pretty happy with the price. Especially for what I consider to be the best LED TV of 2010.

So my first question was, is this TV freaking amazing or what?

Secondly, how the hell do I clean the screen!? its a beautiful 52 inches, and I would like it to be as streak free as possible. any good suggestions on what to use?

Thirdly, am I safe buying a display model? It's in good shape, but it was on the floor for probably more than 6 months. I got the 5 year warranty with it (it was required) but is the warranty worth it?

And lastly, are the firmware updates and calibration dvd's really worth it?

Thanks for the help and reviews guys, this TV is awesome, especially for 1/3 of the price of the hx929 (although you get 3 more inches diagonally and slightly better viewing angles and less blooming, and a new xreality pro engine)

I picked up the 52hx909 yesterday from PC Richards, it was also the floor model. I did not get the extended warranty with it. Xbr's come with 18 months. I cleaned my screen with a damp microfiber cloth, and it works great!

I haven't turned the tv on yet, but so far the condition of the tv is MINT. I have checked out the 929 alot in the past few weeks and I definately feel the 909 is WAY better build quality. The Gorilla glass feels very thin and almost plastic/acrylic like.

I ended up paying $1961 out the door after taxes and I felt I got a great deal so you definately got a better deal :P The only other choice in that price range was a46NX720.... and I HOPE I made the right choice with the 52HX909!
post #2477 of 2895
i am also between a 2011 hx820 or a hx909 sony is replacing .
post #2478 of 2895
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Originally Posted by Mrkingdavid23 View Post
i am also between a 2011 hx820 or a hx909 sony is replacing .
Hmm, I would go with the 909 for the same reason I did, its not edge lit. If youc an check them both out at the store first.
post #2479 of 2895
Folks,

I just ordered a 46HX-909 (got an excellent deal!).... so I am happily joining your club! Can't wait!

I am a complete noob to calibrating a TV. Someone mentioned the "AVS-HD calibration disk," which I am assuming can be downloaded.

Could someone please give me some advice on how to use the disc and anything else that might help me with tweakage? I would really appreciate any feedback. The set is for my living room (not an extremely bright room).
post #2480 of 2895
I have that disc. Its way to confusing to me. It did me no good.
post #2481 of 2895
Just bought the 46HX909 this past week and was wondering if there's any additional benefit to getting the Sony wireless adapter for the tv if I already have a PS3, other than being able to use the tv as a standalone device?
post #2482 of 2895
I just purchased a 52inch 909 , i saw it together a 929 and the pq is basically the same also the 929 looks a little bit more cheap than the 909 i got it for a bargain i dont need 3d neither wifi since i stream everything via ps3 . where are some good setting for this set ?
post #2483 of 2895
My 52HX909 Review:

Hi everyone, I wanted to post my review of the 52HX909 that I bought from PC Richards. It was a display model and was in like new condition other then some finger prints

I want just briefly go over the most recent displays I have owned. I will start with the Pioneer Pro1150 768P plasma. I currently still have this tv in the house and I will reference it later in the review. I also owned two different Pioneer Pro110's 1080p and one Pioneer Pro111 1080p plasma. All three 1080p plasma's suffered from the dirty screen effect, the first was ironically better then the last two. The DSE as I will refer to it going forward is fairly noticable in movies and tv but painfully obvious while gaming.

Although the 1080p Pioneers offered to me the best color, contrast and clarity among the tv's I have owned, the DSE really was distracted to me and I sold them, at a large loss I might add. I then purchased the LG 15 inch OLED tv. Thinking this would not have any downfalls that Plasma or LCD would have. Problem with this OLED is that one it was WAY too smalle and two the motion handling wasn't alot better then a normal 60hz lcd. I was pretty shocked about that. The blacks no doubt were amazing and better then any plasma or lcd before it. This tv was sold again at a loss because the size and motion blur were too distracting.


Now this brings me to the Sony 52Hx909. I had saw this tv last December at Ultimate Electronics in NH. I was very impressed by it for many reasons, one the moiton handling with motion flow on clear 1 was VERY impressive. Two the DSE was really non-existent on this tv. This was huge for me because I am very sensitive to it.

Anyway the 909 was about $4200 at the time and I had my share of buying $4k plus plasma's that were not up to what I was looking for. So I held off on buying it. Then last week I was looking around at PC richards and they had a floor model 52HX909 that they had on sale. It was less then the 46 inch NX720, so I figured I would jump on it.

After getting alot of quality time with the 909, I have to say its the second best tv I have ever seen. The only display IMO that is better is the Pro1150. The reason for this is uniformity, the Pro1150 does not have the DSE that the higher pixel 1080p panels had, and the phosphor lag is just not there on the 768p model. The Sony 909 has not horizontal banding or Uneveness BUT it does have some slight veritcal banding/uneveness on the screen. This can bee seen on mostly solid color screens or very quick motion going left to right.

I had checked out the 55hx929 at two different stores before purchasing the 909, and I saw much worse uneveness on the 929. But I felt the 929 did handle the blooming off axis better, and the off axis viewing was improved on the 929.

I will say that I mainly use the tv for gaming and some blu ray movies. So if your going to be using the 909 or the 929 for movies and tv, the uneveness is a NON issue. If you plan to game on it, be prepared to see some uneveness. In all fairness, I have yet to see any tv have perfect or close to perfect uniformity. Even the LG OLED had issues with that. Below is my settings for the Sony 52HX909, please try them out, I think everyone will be very satisfied with them

Also for gamers, all tv's mentioned in the review have NO issues with input lag, even with local dimming on and motion flow on clear 1. I tried in game mode, graphic mode, and I could not detect any difference. The settings below is how I play all content including games:

--Home Menu>Settings>Picture & Display--

--Picture Adjustments menu--
Setting Memory: [any]
Picture Mode: Custom
Backlight: 2
Picture: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Clear 1
CineMotion: Auto 1

--Advanced Settings menu--
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: -2
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
White Balance: [See below]
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off [grayed out]

--White Balance menu--
R-Gain: -11
G-Gain: -8
B-Gain: 0
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: -1

Home Menu>Settings>Ambient Sensor: Off

Home Menu>Settings>Screen menu--
Setting Memory: [any]
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
4:3 Default: Off [grayed out]
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel
Screen Position: [grayed out]
Vertical Size: [grayed out]

Home Menu>Settings>Pro Picture Setup: [All settings Auto]

--Home Menu>Settings>Preferences--

--Scene Select menu--
General

--Eco menu--
Power Saving: Off


Also I want to say that build quality wise the 909 was much better then the 929, the 929 uses Gorilla glass/acrylic and the 909 uses thick glass. The Gorilla glass looking off axis has some slight wave to it on the borders where its attached to the rest of the tv, just looks cheaper then perfectly flat glass ont he 909, and the metal border on the 909 looks VERY nice!

Overall, Sony really surprised me, I haven't been a fan of lcds in a long time for gaming and movies but this has changed my mind. The blacks in a dimly lit room look the SAME as the LG OLED I had. Other then some slight blooming the two looking very much the same as far as blacks go. The last time I enjoyed a Sony tv was the 34XBR2 crt, the 30XBR910 and the 24FW900 monitor. All of which I owned in the past. This tv is right up there with the best I have ever seen, I would give a 10 but because of the vertical uneveness/uniformity I will have to say its a 9.

Sorry for the long post, if I missed anything please let me know, thank you!
post #2484 of 2895
Thanks Blackvette for that review. Saying the HX909 has OLED type blacks is quite a statement. I plan on picking up the 46 inch HX909 soon. I will be getting a sweet deal since I work for an electronics retailer so I get a nice discount on top of the low close out pricing.

Unfortunately, I have only been able to view the HX909 with a crappy cable feed so I couldn't truly appreciate the PQ, but I did see a HX929 playing blu-ray and it looked very good.

Sounds like you have owned some very nice TVs. It is nice to know that the HX909 is among the best.
post #2485 of 2895
i am loving my tv...my only problem is changing channels seems to take a long time.... 5 seconds sometims 8 seconds....sometimes instant...not sure what the problem is my uniformity and picture is awesome...
post #2486 of 2895
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Originally Posted by dan007 View Post
i am loving my tv...my only problem is changing channels seems to take a long time.... 5 seconds sometims 8 seconds....sometimes instant...not sure what the problem is my uniformity and picture is awesome...
I tend to use the home button now and just scroll through the channel list rather than tuning through every channel. If you have the TV Guide enabled the home menu tells you what is on next to the channel number, so I don't even have to bother tuning in.

I haven't had any good experiences with quick channel flipping since TVs started switching over to digital. I think it's the nature of the video compression since the whole picture isn't sent every frame (like the analog TVs). Are you getting a strong OTA signal?
post #2487 of 2895
As Fry's continues to liquidate their inventory the prices fall.

You can grab it for $899.99 in Atlanta.

This is the cheapest I have EVER seen this TV.

This is below the cost Fry's paid for them, so Sony is paying the difference on each TV sold to liquidate.

post #2488 of 2895
I have a quick question regarding using Netflix with this tv. I just signed up for the free 30 trial and watched a show last night however it didn't stream as HD when I used the Netflix widget but if I used my PS3 to watch, it does come through as HD. Is there something I'm not doing when just trying to watch Netflix without the PS3?
post #2489 of 2895
Blackvette94: thanks so much for the information. I just got a 46 incher yesterday, so I am going to try your settings. That is just what I was looking for!

Just one question.... why turn the Power Save off? This might be obvious to many, but I am a newb to having that functionality....
post #2490 of 2895
I've just noticed this on my 909, with the tv is off and the sun is shining on the screen, i've noticed these redish vertical bars going across the screen, they look similar to smudges but when i tried to wipe them off, it seems they are behind the screen. If i am watching tv when the room is dark, you can't see them at all. Has anybody else noticed this?
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