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post #2851 of 2895
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Originally Posted by slider2828 View Post

Audio lag is so subjective... If you really need to gauge, should run it through a new generation receiver that has automatic audio sync.... otherwise its a guessing game.

Does sony make them with automatic audio sync?
post #2852 of 2895
guys

does sony still offer trade-in's for faulty tv's? I've had my tv for 10 months and it's started to develop problems. Does anybody have the number to call where they accept a camera shot of the fault and offer a trade-in?

Thx
post #2853 of 2895
I have a mint condition 52HX909 w/ 2 pairs of glasses and 3D transmitter that I need to get rid of, Philadelphia area. It was calibrated by Chad B, you can find my graphs posted in this same thread. I apologize if I'm breaking any forum rules, I'm just in a serious financial bind. PM me if interested.
Dave
post #2854 of 2895
Does anyone know where the setting is on the HX909 that would truncate black levels? Or to be more accurate, how to turn off the truncation? I currently cannot see the 4% below black on the DVE Pluge test pattern and am trying to figure out if this truncation is happening on my TV or the BD player. I've asked the same question in the Panasonic BDP310 (the BD player I'm using)owners thread too.
post #2855 of 2895
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Originally Posted by douglaswr 
Does anyone know where the setting is on the HX909 that would truncate black levels? Or to be more accurate, how to turn off the truncation? I currently cannot see the 4% below black on the DVE Pluge test pattern and am trying to figure out if this truncation is happening on my TV or the BD player. I've asked the same question in the Panasonic BDP310 (the BD player I'm using)owners thread too.

There has been not much activity lately in the HX909 Official and Calibration threads. I would suggest you start a thread in the calibration Forum.
http://www.avsforum.com/f/139/display-calibration
post #2856 of 2895
Thanks 8mile. I posted it there too.
post #2857 of 2895
I apologize up front if this question is in the wrong place. This is closest on going thread I could find to the problem I'm having. I started a new thread on this yesterday but hopefully someone here can help---

Hi All. A newbie here. Been having a problem with my Sony KDL46XBR2 for some time and looking for help before I take the plunge and spend most likely a lot of money calling a technician.
Every so often (getting more frequent now) the colors seem to almost fade away. This is especially noticeable with blues. Our cable system's channel guide etc has a deep blue background. When the colors fade, it turns a pale green. It's almost like having a black and white TV though there is some faint coloring. Sometimes I turn the TV oiff and on and it comes back OK, other times the colors resume to normal on their own.
TV is 5 yrs old. Called Sony some months ago and of course they've never heard of this problem.
Any ideas? Is this worth fixing? Of course Sony recommends only authorized technicians and they are not cheap.
Thanks
post #2858 of 2895
I recently acquired this TV and I needed some help concerning the base for the swivel stand.

According to the assembly instructions, the screws insert from the top, going downwards.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/Flyer_4180034121_EN_ES_FR.pdf

When I attempted this, the screws have nothing to attach to.
Can anybody verify this?
I ended up having to insert the screws from the bottom, going upward.


I need to know ASAP due to the weight of this TV. If there are any stability issues, I need to rectify it. I have small children in the home and I don't want them hurt.
Edited by myriad1973 - 7/25/12 at 2:58pm
post #2859 of 2895
I would suggest that you call sony support at their listed 1 800 number

especially when it involves a saftey issue,that you have concerns about .I am certain that Sony is very pro active in saftey of their product.
There is no charge,and I have found them very good in the past.

One other option is to buy a stand with a support bracket attached and that will make the tv very secure. The cost of this type of stand runs 199 to 399 There is no possibility that the TV will fall and it this may give you peace of mind.

I have my 60 in tv attached in this manner.
I have an other tv on a stand and it is quite firm on the stand and will not tip due to the design of the base .These tv are so designed that they are not front heavy for child safety and if yours is insecure or potentially dangerous then you may have an installation problem as you suspect.
Edited by James T - 7/25/12 at 5:42am
post #2860 of 2895
From a stability standpoint, it *feels* secure to the base, but the TV is a bit wobbly... just a bit, when you move it. But not any more so than most other TV's. It doesn't sway or anything like that. I did contact Sony support online this morning, but they wanted the model number of the stand it was on... apparently telling them the stock stand wasn't enough.

Hopefully I'll get more feedback from other owners of this TV soon. If not, I'll get another stand if it comes down to it. I'll give Sony a call on the phone as well.
post #2861 of 2895
Problem with 3D display

Last night I tried to watch a 3D movie using my Yahmaha BD-a1010 Blu-ray player and my Sony HX909. For some reason, the only things that would appear in 3D were the menus - all film content, including 3D trailers and the film itself, only showed up in 2D. I hadn't changed a thing since the last time I successfully watched a 3D movie - same settings, same cable, etc. I tried adjusting settings on both the TV and the Blu-ray player but nothing worked.

Thinking it might be a defective disc, I replaced it with another 3D movie I own that I KNOW is not defective and got the same result.

The question is: is the issue with the TV or the Blu-ray player?

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their XBR-HX9xx?

Many thanks!
post #2862 of 2895
No 3D
You have 5 items that you need test to see if they are working correctly.

1 The Media the DVD
2. The blue ray player
3. The Yamaha receiver
4. Sony Tv
5. The HDMI cable

I am assuming that you are turning on the button on the Sony remote and selecting the 3D field that you want on the TV.

The first thing that I would do is check the HDMI cables sometimes they become loose. I would reconnect all my HDMI cables that you use for the audio /picture
Pull them completely out and put them back into the scocket. This may resolve the problem. HDMI cables become loose very easily.

I presume your running the picture and sound through the Yamaha receiver which processes the sound and the video.
Potentially that could be a problem make certain that some control on the Yamha it is not affecting the picture or signal to the TV..

If all else checks out run the 3D signal directly from the blue ray player to the tv that would indicate if there is a fault with the yamaha receiver

One other thing I have a Sony ex720 3 D TV and I presume your set is very similar. There are two or three 3Dd programs stored on the Tv set up menu. Try them and see if they work. This may eliminate the tv as part of the problem.

If you could borrow a blue ray dvd player from a friend and see if that is the the problem.

Hope some of these suggestions help you with the issues that you are experiencing.
Edited by James T - 8/31/12 at 12:52pm
post #2863 of 2895
Guys

This may be considered a stupid question, don't know. I looked through the manuals and don't see a headphone jack on the TV. I have a Sennheiser wireless headset (3.5mm) which we use when someone is studying, etc. Am I not looking correctly or there just isn't one? Any other solutions?

Thanks
post #2864 of 2895
There is an audio out, and I'm assuming it should be very close to the VGA input.
post #2865 of 2895
I just checked the software version of my 52hx909 and its at 4.114 but sony's site says the latest is 4.112. Anyone know what 4.114 improvements are over 4.112?

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post #2866 of 2895
Has anyone else had a problem where Braviasync and ARC just quit working?
It happened to our set (XBR-46HX909) several months ago (a couple months after the warranty expired, of course), and I have not been able to get it working again.

In the middle of watching a "Lord of the Rings" BD, I noticed that our amp was no longer responding to volume control from the XBR's remote. It was working fine when I started the movie. I figured that it had just temporarily lost the HDMI sync for some random reason, but then discovered that none of the HDMI-CEC or ARC features were functional anymore.

I have tried swapping out all cables (or, rather, swapping them around--because there is just no way that the seven high-speed HDMI cables in our system could have all gone bad simultaneously).

I have tried every sequence I can think of for enabling/disabling HDMI control on the video sources and the display before/after restarts. (That is: enabling/disabling HDMI control on everything before restarting,
enabling/disabling/reenabling on everything before restarting, restarting with control only enabled on a source device, restarting with control enabled on the XBR, doing all the above while only restarting
the source or XBR, etc. And, of course, trying it with and without the source and XBR connected to one another.)

I have tried it with and without the amp (Sony STR-2010DN) in the system (that is, connecting only the PS3 or a Sony Blu-ray player or cable box to the XBR).

I have tried resetting all devices to factory default (including the XBR: turning it off via the power button on the unit while pressing UP arrow on the remote and resetting it back to where it asks for language preference and you have to re-enter all the
configurations and labels for everything). Also, disconnecting the power for a few minutes.

In all cases, the XBR can no longer locate any of the HDMI-CEC-compliant source devices. They don't appear in the HDMI Control menu or in the Braviasync menu. It all used to work: I used to be able to set the XBR to turn on when a source device turns on, set selected source devices to turn off when the XBR goes off, send audio from Crackle (or other video source built into the XBR) to our AV receiver via ARC, have the XBR remote control the AVR volume, etc.

The firmware is up to date on all devices.

Any suggestions? Is there another method of resetting factory defaults that I should try?

I fear that the HDMI control function on our XBR may be permanently fried. Does Sony have an after-warranty trade-in program?
Edited by whetstone1 - 11/15/12 at 11:51am
post #2867 of 2895
Two thin
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

Has anyone else had a problem where Braviasync and ARC just quit working?
It happened to our set (XBR-46HX909) several months ago (a couple months after the warranty expired, of course), and I have not been able to get it working again.
In the middle of watching a "Lord of the Rings" BD, I noticed that our amp was no longer responding to volume control from the XBR's remote. It was working fine when I started the movie. I figured that it had just temporarily lost the HDMI sync for some random reason, but then discovered that none of the HDMI-CEC or ARC features were functional anymore.
I have tried swapping out all cables (or, rather, swapping them around--because there is just no way that the seven high-speed HDMI cables in our system could have all gone bad simultaneously).
I have tried every sequence I can think of for enabling/disabling HDMI control on the video sources and the display before/after restarts. (That is: enabling/disabling HDMI control on everything before restarting,
enabling/disabling/reenabling on everything before restarting, restarting with control only enabled on a source device, restarting with control enabled on the XBR, doing all the above while only restarting
the source or XBR, etc. And, of course, trying it with and without the source and XBR connected to one another.)
I have tried it with and without the amp (Sony STR-2010DN) in the system (that is, connecting only the PS3 or a Sony Blu-ray player or cable box to the XBR).
I have tried resetting all devices to factory default (including the XBR: turning it off via the power button on the unit while pressing UP arrow on the remote and resetting it back to where it asks for language preference and you have to re-enter all the
configurations and labels for everything). Also, disconnecting the power for a few minutes.
In all cases, the XBR can no longer locate any of the HDMI-CEC-compliant source devices. They don't appear in the HDMI Control menu or in the Braviasync menu. It all used to work: I used to be able to set the XBR to turn on when a source device turns on, set selected source devices to turn off when the XBR goes off, send audio from Crackle (or other video source built into the XBR) to our AV receiver via ARC, have the XBR remote control the AVR volume, etc.
The firmware is up to date on all devices.
Any suggestions? Is there another method of resetting factory defaults that I should try?
I fear that the HDMI control function on our XBR may be permanently fried. Does Sony have an after-warranty trade-in program?
Three things about Audio Return Channel:

1) It will only work if CEC (BraviaLink) is enabled in the TV and AVR setup menu (this is probably the cause of your problem);
2) All it does is replace the need for running a TOSLINK audio cable from the TV to the AVR, so don't return your TV, just buy a TOSLINK cable.
3) ARC should not be used when watching a Blu-ray; you won't get the Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD soundtrack with ARC. At best you'll get Dolby Digital and in some cases you'll only get stereo audio. The purpose of arc is to send TV tuner and Internet audio back to the AVR. With other sources, the device should route through the AVR, especially Blu-ray. This doesn't mean that you need to turn off ARC, you just don't select it as the audio input on your AVR when watching a blu-ray.
Edited by Rebound - 11/23/12 at 6:47pm
post #2868 of 2895
Thank you for the response.
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Originally Posted by Rebound View Post

Three things about Audio Return Channel:
1) It will only work if CEC (BraviaLink) is enabled in the TV and AVR setup menu (this is probably the cause of your problem);

That is not the problem. (On the one hand, I'm thinking "Should I feel insulted by the suggestion?", but on the other, I was actually hoping that I was just overlooking some embarrassingly obvious, easily remedied cause. It happens.)
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2) All it does is replace the need for running a TOSLINK audio cable from the TV to the AVR, so don't return your TV, just buy a TOSLINK cable.

Ha! Good point. (See what I mean about overlooking the obvious?)

When I get home, I'll have to see if I have one that's long enough.

Unfortunately, all the optical inputs on my AVR are in use, so I'll have to detemine what source I can do without. (Also, I've had problems with big changes in level when switching between optical and HDMI. I don't think I've tried it with the TV as an optical audio source, though. Another concern is that I suspect that these TVs might be able to pass digital audio from an HDMI input only to the ARC HDMI channel, and not to the optical output. That would render the HDMI inputs mostly useless.)

The lack of functioning Braviasync, though, would still present a problem for being able to adjust the system volume with one remote (main issue there is that our cable remote doesn't support Sony AVRs, but, back when CEC still worked, the TV, upon receiving volume control commands via IR signal, could pass them on to the AVR via CEC). It also prevents configuring system power up/down behavior.
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3) ARC should not be used when watching a Blu-ray; you won't get the Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD soundtrack with ARC.

ARC, when it was working, was only used on our set when we displayed streamed programming that comes from the TV (such as Netflix and Crackle) or played content from either our multi-regional DVD player or a PC (both of which must be directly connected to the TV because all of the HDMI inputs on the AVR are in use). The two Blue-ray changers, game consoles and cable STB all pass first through the AVR.

Dan
post #2869 of 2895
Will this TV display all modes on files that I have? I have files that are PAL and 50Hz. 25fps and 30fps. I know this is an American US TV but European TV's don't have any issue displaying all content. Just wondering.
post #2870 of 2895
I recently bought the XBR 52 HX909 for $940 with wifi usb, 2 3D and IR transmitter in black friday deal. I want to know is it worth buying this TV at this price or should I return and buy any latest model at this price. Any suggestion please ? BTW this TV was in shop display and does not have box.

Thanks.
post #2871 of 2895
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Originally Posted by vytheese View Post

I recently bought the XBR 52 HX909 for $940 with wifi usb, 2 3D and IR transmitter in black friday deal. I want to know is it worth buying this TV at this price or should I return and buy any latest model at this price. Any suggestion please ? BTW this TV was in shop display and does not have box.
Thanks.

I've had the 52HX909 since they first came out. It's excellent. I have kept up with the owner's threads on the HX929 and HX950 and they both seem to have problems that my HX909 doesn't have. You got it for a great price and it's an excellent set. Keep it.
post #2872 of 2895
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

Another concern is that I suspect that these TVs might be able to pass digital audio from an HDMI input only to the ARC HDMI channel, and not to the optical output. That would render the HDMI inputs mostly useless.)
ARC uses one (previously Reserved) pin in the HDMI cable. It is literally the same as the signal pin routed to the rear panel TOSLINK connector. Electrically, a TOSLINK pin signal is split and goes out as TOSLINK and as ARC, so the audio is not different between TOSLINK and ARC. Some may argue there's a minuscule difference in jitter between the two, and they'll pretend they can hear it... but that's another story.

The TOSLINK out of that TV should send either stereo PCM or Dolby Digital compressed from any input you use -- HDMI, analog, TV tuner, or built-in app. The only time your AVR should play audio from a different audio input is if you want high bitrate audio or DTS audio, or if you're playing audio-only, such as a CD or FM radio.
Edited by Rebound - 12/12/12 at 6:44am
post #2873 of 2895
BillJulyan appreciate your reply. I really liked this TV from the day I switched on. I am a naive applicance user but I see it stands as a distinguished class. I even found the speakers are good to me.. Just a monkey mind to curious to verify my decesion.. Thanks and I am keeping this beauty.

-Vythees
post #2874 of 2895
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Originally Posted by Rebound View Post

Two thinThree things about Audio Return Channel:
1) It will only work if CEC (BraviaLink) is enabled in the TV and AVR setup menu (this is probably the cause of your problem);
2) All it does is replace the need for running a TOSLINK audio cable from the TV to the AVR, so don't return your TV, just buy a TOSLINK cable.
3) ARC should not be used when watching a Blu-ray; you won't get the Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD soundtrack with ARC. At best you'll get Dolby Digital and in some cases you'll only get stereo audio. The purpose of arc is to send TV tuner and Internet audio back to the AVR. With other sources, the device should route through the AVR, especially Blu-ray. This doesn't mean that you need to turn off ARC, you just don't select it as the audio input on your AVR when watching a blu-ray.

R
"3) ARC should not be used when watching a Blu-ray; you won't get the Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD soundtrack with ARC. At best you'll get Dolby Digital and in some cases you'll only get stereo audio."@

I use ARC via HDMI cables with all of my TVs and bluray players precisely because I want to enjoy Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD from my blu-rays and recommend the same to others. Optical cables are not capable of passing TruHD or DTS-HD hence the reason you should use HDMI cables with Blu ray.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/215202/hdmi_vs_spdif.html
Edited by LBJ2 - 12/14/12 at 10:51am
post #2875 of 2895
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

I use ARC via HDMI cables with all of my TVs and bluray players precisely because I want to enjoy Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD from my blu-rays and recommend the same to others. Optical cables are not capable of passing TruHD or DTS-HD hence the reason you should use HDMI cables with Blu ray.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/215202/hdmi_vs_spdif.html
ARC **is** SPDIF. ARC is the abbreviation of Audio Return Channel. It lets the TV send audio backwards over the HDMI cable to the AVR, but it cannot transmit Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD. And it often won't transmit ordinary DTS audio.

For example, lets say you have three devices: PS/3, Cable Box, and AppleTV, plus you have an AVR. You could connect these several ways:
1) Plug all three into the AVR, and connect the AVR to the TV. In this case, you will never use ARC with the PS/3, Cable Box or AppleTV. But you will use ARC if you watch TV from the TV's internal tuner. You will always get the best audio quality.
2) Plug all three directly into the TV, and also plug the AVR into the TV. In this case, you will always use ARC. You will not get the best audio quality from Blu-ray discs.
3) Plug the Blu-ray into the AVR and plug the other devices into the TV. This will work, and you'll probably get the best audio quality. Some TV models may not pass Dolby Digital or (particularly) DTS from the TV to the AVR under all cases, so you'll have to check if Dolby Digital plays from your cable box under this configuration. The advantage to this configuration is ease of use: You perform all input switching using the TV remote and menus. But you have to mute either the TV speakers or the AVR, or else audio will play out of phase. .

If you have more questions about ARC, please post them. I have considerable expertise on the subject.
post #2876 of 2895
I would hook you guys up with the input lag info for the 52HX909 but i would need a CRT monitor right? Yeah, I got rid of my last one around 1999-2000. What took me so long right? lol
post #2877 of 2895
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Originally Posted by avsforumsdsd View Post

I would hook you guys up with the input lag info for the 52HX909 but i would need a CRT monitor right? Yeah, I got rid of my last one around 1999-2000. What took me so long right? lol
We found an easier way. If you have a smartphone with MHL or an iPhone, you can attach it to your TV, run a timer app on the phone, and then you can photograph the two screens.
post #2878 of 2895
Anyone have the original stand for the 52 ? if you dont need it or want to sell it give me a PM, I cant seem to find one online.












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post #2879 of 2895
Anyone have the original stand for the 52 ? if you dont need it or want to sell it.....give me a PM, I cant seem to find one online.












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post #2880 of 2895
I have one I am not using, but I'm in Vancouver, BC.
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