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post #541 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

thanks for the heads-up Josh...I will go to amazon.co.uk to see about Total Recall....

UPDATE....looks like there is no 'optimum' version of Total Recall, or any other UK version available on Amazon.uk They have the french steelbook, but I don't need that. I will try the US site...

Single disc:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Total-Recall.../dp/B0019GJ4AQ

Schwarzenegger Collection:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schwarzenegg...dp/B0041A7OTA/

The French Steelbook is available on Amazon.com in like new condition for $29.99 + shipping. It's the best version out there really and the steelbook is very nice.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003U1U7UE
post #542 of 574
That single disc of Total Recall from Amazon.uk is region 2. I don't think that will play in my PS3....too bad
post #543 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

That single disc of Total Recall from Amazon.uk is region 2. I don't think that will play in my PS3....too bad

People really shouldn't spread misinformation if they aren't sure. The UK Total Recall BD from Optimum is coded for Region A and Region B, so it plays fine on a PS3 anywhere in those regions. It looks immensely better than the domestic Lionsgate version. It can be purchased on its own at this link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Total-Recall...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
post #544 of 574
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

People really shouldn't spread misinformation if they aren't sure. The UK Total Recall BD from Optimum is coded for Region A and Region B, so it plays fine on a PS3 anywhere in those regions.

well, I'm not spreading misinformation....if you go to that link, it says that it's 'region 2' if you scroll down. I'm in the US and don't want the hassle of sending back Total Recall to the UK if it won't play in my US PS3.....
post #545 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

well, I'm not spreading misinformation....if you go to that link, it says that it's 'region 2' if you scroll down. I'm in the US and don't want the hassle of sending back Total Recall to the UK if it won't play in my US PS3.....

Like he just said, it's NOT Region 2. The UK Blu-Ray is region free. Amazon UK's listing is the one that's wrong.
post #546 of 574
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Originally Posted by DM2006RI View Post

Like he just said, it's NOT Region 2. The UK Blu-Ray is region free. Amazon UK's listing is the one that's wrong.

Thanks for the heads-up....I know that Amazon can be misleading and it just confuses me that the UK can do the same thing...thanks you guys and I just ordered
post #547 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

Thanks for the heads-up....I know that Amazon can be misleading and it just confuses me that the UK can do the same thing...thanks you guys and I just ordered

Sometimes the info is just off, no matter where you go.
post #548 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

well, I'm not spreading misinformation....if you go to that link, it says that it's 'region 2' if you scroll down. I'm in the US and don't want the hassle of sending back Total Recall to the UK if it won't play in my US PS3.....

Region 2 isn't even a Blu-Ray specification. Don't go by Amazon. Blu-Ray's are Region A, B, and C. The Total Recall UK disc is Regions A and B so it will play fine in your Region A PS3.

http://bluray.liesinc.net/index.php?region=b
post #549 of 574
I just ordered Total Recall, Red Heat, and Raw Deal from the U.K. I considered getting the Schwarzenegger Collection that houses all three, but decided to go the individual route. Anyway, all three should be playable in region A and B. I believe the only PAL material on the discs are trailers for Raw Deal and Red Heat. Everything else should be fine.
post #550 of 574
All three will play on US players? If so, I might buy the set.
post #551 of 574
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Originally Posted by hifichip76 View Post

All three will play on US players? If so, I might buy the set.

Yes, all three play in Region A players.
post #552 of 574
finally got to see/rent this version last night. It wasn't quite the 'nightmare' that everyone was talking about in regards to DNR. Maybe my darbee darblet is helping with this??? I have a JVC RS20 shooting on to a 115" carada BW screen. HOWEVER, from someone that is a film 'purist', I totally agree that this disc is a joke. While I actually enjoyed the movie (for the gizillianth time), the amount of DNR, contrast boosting, etc, etc, KINDA TOOK ME OUT OF THE MOVIE....just my .02 wink.gif
post #553 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

finally got to see/rent this version last night. It wasn't quite the 'nightmare' that everyone was talking about in regards to DNR. Maybe my darbee darblet is helping with this??? I have a JVC RS20 shooting on to a 115" carada BW screen. HOWEVER, from someone that is a film 'purist', I totally agree that this disc is a joke. While I actually enjoyed the movie (for the gizillianth time), the amount of DNR, contrast boosting, etc, etc, KINDA TOOK ME OUT OF THE MOVIE....just my .02 wink.gif

This is a confusing post. You are saying darbee without you even setting it de-dnr it for you? Maybe if it added fake film grain to break up the smoothness but you would have to set that wouldn't you?
post #554 of 574
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

This is a confusing post. You are saying darbee without you even setting it de-dnr it for you? Maybe if it added fake film grain to break up the smoothness but you would have to set that wouldn't you?

Sorry, this is a confusing post eek.gif
post #555 of 574
basically what I'm saying is the DNR was not as bad with the darbee.....But I prefer the original transfer to the UHE....
post #556 of 574
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

basically what I'm saying is the DNR was not as bad with the darbee.....But I prefer the original transfer to the UHE....

Too bad Fox doesn't put this title in its Signature Collection and treat Predator correctly for once... with a 4k restoration off the camera negatives and full supervision. Let all the beautiful grain of the original cinematography come through.
post #557 of 574
Well it's getting the 3d treatment this fall, maybe that will come with a new remaster everyone will be happy with!
post #558 of 574
Oh god another one. Let's all pray and hope this baby comes out right. They seriously better not issue this piece of trash transfer again. And I have no idea how anybody can fathom this looks even remotely good. It's one of the worst easily and I watch on a 42 inch most of the time fairly close.
post #559 of 574
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Originally Posted by Ikari Warrior View Post

Well it's getting the 3d treatment this fall, maybe that will come with a new remaster everyone will be happy with!

Very unlikely. Heavy grain doesn't fare well in 3D. It's my suspicion that the only reason the "Ultimate Hunter" transfer exists at all was as prep work for the 3D conversion.
post #560 of 574
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Very unlikely. Heavy grain doesn't fare well in 3D. It's my suspicion that the only reason the "Ultimate Hunter" transfer exists at all was as prep work for the 3D conversion.

That was my suspicion as well when it was first released.
post #561 of 574
I think the causal relationship there might go the other way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the UHE disc came out several years before that cheapo semi-automated 3D conversion technology they're using was announced.
Much like Patton, I think it's simply a case of Fox farming out the remastering work to the wrong people, but now they have a perfectly glossy and bright master well-suited for 3D so they figured they'd get some more mileage out of it. I really don't see a 3D conversion featuring full-blooded 80s grain.
post #562 of 574
The Predator 3D re-master was recently shown to the public at Comic-Con and the reviewers said it was quite nice for a converted film. Plus....- you'd better lock the door and grab some kleenex for this - it is apparently getting a new 2D release as well, minted from the new 2D transfer used to create the 3D conversion and without all the DNR smoothing to be included in a package with the 3D disc.
post #563 of 574
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Originally Posted by LexInVA View Post

The Predator 3D re-master was recently shown to the public at Comic-Con and the reviewers said it was quite nice for a converted film. Plus....- you'd better lock the door and grab some kleenex for this - it is apparently getting a new 2D release as well, minted from the new 2D transfer used to create the 3D conversion and without all the DNR smoothing to be included in a package with the 3D disc.

As always I have a believe it when I see it attitude. When American Werewolf in London had a limited release to theaters the viewers claimed it was a great looking new master when in fact it was the same one used on HD-DVD.
post #564 of 574
At this point, I have little faith in Fox doing anything worthwhile with this movie. They have no love for it at all, just "How can we make another release of Predator? I want to get that new gold-plated Ferrari."
post #565 of 574
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Originally Posted by Jedi2016 View Post

At this point, I have little faith in Fox doing anything worthwhile with this movie. They have no love for it at all, just "How can we make another release of Predator? I want to get that new gold-plated Ferrari."

Too true.
post #566 of 574
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Originally Posted by LexInVA View Post

The Predator 3D re-master was recently shown to the public at Comic-Con and the reviewers said it was quite nice for a converted film. Plus....- you'd better lock the door and grab some kleenex for this - it is apparently getting a new 2D release as well, minted from the new 2D transfer used to create the 3D conversion and without all the DNR smoothing to be included in a package with the 3D disc.

I have a hard time believing this. The major risk is that DNR is part and parcel of the conversion process—grain and 3D post-conversion don't get along. The original pre-converted transfer shouldn't be DNRed, but that doesn't mean they'll actually use it. I think it's more likely we'll just get a 2D version of the 3D master.
post #567 of 574
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Originally Posted by Dan Average View Post

I have a hard time believing this. The major risk is that DNR is part and parcel of the conversion process—grain and 3D post-conversion don't get along. The original pre-converted transfer shouldn't be DNRed, but that doesn't mean they'll actually use it. I think it's more likely we'll just get a 2D version of the 3D master.

I would imagine they create a new 2D master first - then create 3D.
post #568 of 574
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

I would imagine they create a new 2D master first - then create 3D.

One would think that, but it's also possible that Fox will pull a Jurassic Park and release their original, poorer, outdated master on the 2D disc and not bother releasing the restored version in 2D at all.
post #569 of 574
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The Predator 3D re-master was recently shown to the public at Comic-Con and the reviewers said it was quite nice for a converted film. Plus....- you'd better lock the door and grab some kleenex for this - it is apparently getting a new 2D release as well, minted from the new 2D transfer used to create the 3D conversion and without all the DNR smoothing to be included in a package with the 3D disc.

I was there at Comic Con this year and I was very interested in seeing it as I was hoping for a brand new master without DNR. Unfortunately, it didn't look like a new master at all. It still had that extreme waxy look to it, and the normal loss of detail. The people there said it was created from a new master, but I couldn't tell.

Maybe they were showing off an older version of the disc? I'm not quite sure but I was very disappointed.
post #570 of 574
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

One would think that, but it's also possible that Fox will pull a Jurassic Park and release their original, poorer, outdated master on the 2D disc and not bother releasing the restored version in 2D at all.

Fox has been really good with recent catalogs though and their press guy is claiming the 2D will be a new 4K transfer. Should be interesting. Huge disappointment if it's just the UHE 2D disc again. lol
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