The 'I can't believe you want the largest room in the house' HT build.1 - Page 2

Hi there mate,
Can't tell you that I have any experience with the Emotiva Subs but if they are anything like the other gear they manufacture they should be excellent in terms of value and performance. They have a special on right now. At $350 odd for a 12 inch model with free shipping, seems like a good deal. Details at:
http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub12.shtm
Just in case they are what you are after...
Best of luck,
Greg

Hi Peter,
Thanks very much for the help. I rang Acoustica in Sydney and they have the High Density White Batts which look like they should do the trick for the screen wall and surrounds.
Appreciate the tip!
Greg

Hi Peter,

Have not made the call to Embleton yet. Not sure if you picked it up but I am doing a double floor with Green Glue applied. I am hoping that will be sufficient. I was hoping originally to fill the stage with sand before placing the Danleys but that will not be an option now that the theatre has been moved upstairs. May need to talk to Embleton about some type of anti-vibration matting to place under the subs.

How's that kennel going?

By the way, I worked at the Blue Gum for 7 years throughout uni and afterwards. Great little pub!

PS I am sitting here watching Flight of the Phoenix on my LG plasma through the pathetic built in speakers. Having serious system envy for all those finished their build! Just finished watching Legion. Not bad, but pretty cornball. OK, it was bad..... but in a kind of 'From Dusk till Dawn style. But without the style!

Hi Teeg,

Thanks for your comments and welcome. I appreciate you dropping by and your feedback. I think that we have a few constants with the build. Firstly, I wanted a truly immersive screen size. Secondly, I wanted at least 6-8 seats. Thirdly, I wanted some awesome sound with great impact. Fourthly, I wanted as much of that sound to stay within the room so that I can stay married and my neighbours don't chase us out of the neighbourhood.

I am doing everything I can to plan out the room, given the equipment that I have and the parameters I have to work within. I think that the screen will end up being one of the last things to finalise. I have bought enough material for a 150 inch dia 2.37 screen, but I am thinking that I will probably be closer to the 135 inch dia. This is due to a lack of depth in the room and also the use of an A-Lens, which will give me pincushioning if I go much bigger. I am more of a 'front of the theater' kinda guy whereas my wife likes sitting further back. I think that the front row will be great for me and the rear row is better for the wife and other normal people!

Please feel free to comment on any aspect of the build. I am open to all ideas at this stage. Feel free to jump in and fire away. I have already received some great info from the forum but I am really looking to compile as much expertise as I can before I start building the room.

I was interested in getting the Klipsch KL650 speakers. It's a long and drawn out story about a supplier who I won't name here. In any case, the Niles were recommended to me and although I don't think they will be quite as 'dynamic' as the Klipsch speakers, they should be fine. Wish you the best with your build.

Thanks

Greg

Hi Peter, thanks for the mail. Our ceiling is 8 feet high. Was looking to increase the height but it added 3k just for the one room. I can see the logic in your post, with the second level of isolation and airspace. May need to price that up to see how it stacks up. How much was the embleton product from memory?
Cheers
Greg.
Ps looks like a gloomy weekend. Good for some more research although tomorrow is my Son's third birthday. Will be a nice family get together.

Hi Teeg,

When I started looking at speakers, I was going for the Klipsch KL6504 in wall speakers x 3 for the front sound stage. Details at:

http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/news/ph...4-thx-details/

After posting this, I was told by Forum members in the Klipsch owners room that my volume levels would be nowhere near where I wanted and that I should look at the KL-650 THX LCR speakers. I got to chatting to Tony123 on the forum (Twinseltown Thread) and he had fantastic things to say about these speakers. However, I ran into supply problems and the supplier turned out to be 'not someone who I would recommend on here..." so I bit the bullet and bought the Niles, which were available on short delivery and at a pretty good price. You may like to think about the purchase of inwalls if reference level volume is something that you are chasing. If you are a dedicated 2ch listener, I think you will be much happier with cabinets. But, horses for courses. I know that my compromise is losing 2 feet of room depth by having the false wall to accommodate the speakers.
Hope that things go well for you. I am at that frustrating stage whereby I just want our house build to start so that I can start getting things together for the HT build. I have been slowly amassing gear and tools so I am hoping that I will see some home progress soon.
Take it easy,
Greg

Hi Teeg, a design as you go project.... Is there any other kind???? I think you can plan and plan and plan these things and then you just get thrown a curly one. I guess that I am lucky as this is a new build I don't have to consider knocking down walls, HVAC issues, etc. The whole acoustics side of thing has been considerably more time consuming (and expensive!) that I had ever thought possible and there will still be room for improvement on what I have in mind.

I guess at some point you need to just take a breather, take stock of what you want to achieve (and how much money that you have) and then push on with what is achievable.

Have a great weekend.
Greg

Hi everyone, just wanted to ask a question regarding ceiling colors. Think that I probably know the answer but here goes... The ht will be fully covered, both ceiling and walls, with acoustically transparent fabric. This is similar to your GOM. I have chosen a dark purple color (aubergine) for the three walls, black for the false wall and originally was going to do the purple for the ceiling. The fabric shop is helping out on price so even though I am a few months off needing fabric I thought I would get some on order. So which would be better for the ceiling.... Black or dark purple? I don't want to close the room in too much but then I also want the best screen contrast I can get by cutting reflected light. Would welcome feedback on this one. what did you guys do?
Thanks muchly
Greg.

Any feedback guys...surely there must be some people who hate the color purple enough to write!

Was probably going to go black, but hoping others might have some feedback

Thanks

Greg

Thanks Smakovits. That was my thought as well. Appreciate your response. Greg. Going to get my fabric on order on Mon or Tuesday. Every penny saved helps!

Hi there Peter, how you doing? I have a call to embleton pencilled into the diary for today to get some floor isolation solutions. I will let you know how I get on.

Cheers

Greg

Hi there Peter,
Had a chat with Bob from Embleton about soundproofing the floor. I explained what I was doing, in terms of Double Floor, GG, Whisper clips on walls and ceiling and double door. He said that a good cheap fix would really just be to isolate the subs, which will be sitting on the stage. Grand total for 8 x vibrations mounts: $64.00.

He seems to think that if I can take any direct vibration from the subs and isolate it that way, it should prove very effective in light of my other isolation measures. I was most surprised (pleasantly for once) about the small amount of money required to achieve this. I think that I will be using some R3.5 insulation or sound batts in the sub-floor cavity just to give me an extra layer.

Again, I think that this is something that I can sort out when the room is almost finished. Before I carpet I will install the audio section and see how I go at high volumes. If I need more, I can do it then.

Let me know what you think. You were right...they were very helpful.

Cheers

Greg

Hi there Andreas,
Thanks for the reply and the link. I read right through the thread and it was really interesting. I can relate to his hallway!
With regards to window treatments, I am going to block them in with sound plugs and fabric over the wall entirely. So, there will be no drapes involved.
I am ordering the black material for the ceiling and screen wall and purple around. The benefit of using the fabricmate track is that I can change the room if the mood takes me without weeks of stapling.
Thanks very much. BTW, how's that sub build going?
Greg

Hi Peter,
My instincts tell me the same, but that was the advice I was given by Bob. I will drop Ted a PM and ask the question, unless he picks up on the thread first.
Thanks again....
Greg

Hi Ted,

Thanks for the message. I am just a bit concerned about the whole floor isolation issue in the room. I am doing a double skin floor with Green Glue layer and also carpet and rubber underlay. However, I am not sure if this will be sufficient to adequately reduce the amount of sound leaking through the subfloor and into the garage or throughout the rest of the home.

A local supplier here has just advised that I need to isolate the subs off the floor, but my feeling (and those of others here) is that 4 anti-vibration mounts screwed to the bottom of each Danley DTS-10 will do little to reduce the low frequencies in the room from these speakers and also the front sound stage.

With the cost of the theatre rapidly approaching the 'Not one more cent' point with the wife, I am really after the most economical way to reduce sound escaping the room through the floor. All of the walls and the ceiling will be DD and GG with Whisper Clips. However, the floor is just double floor skin with GG.

Could I get away with simply isolating the stage with under stud pads or do I need to undertake more radical isolation measures?

Thanks for your help.

Greg

Thanks very much Andreas. Ordering my room material tomorrow with Black roof.

Really appreciate your comments and assistance

Greg

Well hello there Tony, let's just be done with it. Post some photos of your room, I will tell you that absolutely your build is my inspiration and we can all get on with it. Bloody trouble making southerner! Actually mate you raise a really good point. I can't pin my inspiration down to any one build. I would say that Gpower and his Hana Hou build with fabric frames put me down the path for fabric lining. Truth be known Tony, you have had- more of a (detrimental) impact on my finances than anyone else here. If you ever come to stay let me cook.... I think my wife wants you away for good!
Chat soon.
Greg.