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post #571 of 967
1/7/12 at 6:18am
Looks like it's sealed.
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post #572 of 967
1/8/12 at 12:15am
What he said
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post #573 of 967
1/9/12 at 3:42am
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So, not a huge amount to update. I did get all the wiring completed for the Danleys and mounted the speakers on the stage.... Not much room left on the front wall. Moving them one-up was an exercise in logistics to minimize breaking my back. All that logic training moving piles of drywall and flooring around has me well trained! Broke a banana plug getting the subs in position. Easy fix. Bought some timbers today for the fabric track furring strips and also for my screen, frame and columns. Decided in some maple for the screen and frame... Got it at a good price and looks pretty simple to work with. Screen will be a very simple design... Nothing too complicated. Hope to get some more work done this week. Photos are coming... I know what you guys are like.
Greg.
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post #574 of 967
1/9/12 at 4:29am
WOW....all this progress and still on topic doesn't seem like a Ozzie HT thread. Where's the talk about everything else but HT. LOL

Glad to see everything is smoothly coming along.
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post #575 of 967
1/10/12 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

WOW....all this progress and still on topic doesn't seem like a Ozzie HT thread. Where's the talk about everything else but HT. LOL

Glad to see everything is smoothly coming along.

Hey there David,

I would love to chat about off topic projects but I can't afford to do them. The budget has taken a bit of a hit with Christmas and the Holidays so I am just making do with the theater project to keep me out of trouble. I am still ashamed to say that I have not completed painting the timber posts on my deck from months ago. They are about two thirds done and I know I really need to get back to them. It's just that I am enjoying working in the theater too much right now.

Spent a couple of hours in there last night painting the front, top and sides of the DTS-10 subs in flat black paint. You certainly get a feeling of how large these things are when you have to paint them! They will be going behind the AT screen so didn't want any light coloured wood showing through. Also painted the front face of the two support studs. Then replaced the banana plugs (I bent one and broke the other) so I should be right to go with subs within the next few days. Then the tweaking begins.

I ordered some CSR Supertel, which is a close match to the OC703 used by the guys in the US. I pick it up next Monday. It's not quite as dense (32kg per m3) but should be fine. It will be a mixture of 25mm and 50mm pieces. I ordered enough for behind the screen wall, the back wall and first reflection point treatments. Hopefully it will make a big difference. Not sure how much room I will have for corner bass traps behind the subs... it's real tight back there. Anyway, here is a link to the supplier and product for any local guys looking:

http://www.agiinsulation.com.au/prod...3-Plain-15332/

I will try to get some photos today or tomorrow of the room progress. May even knock up the screen frame this afternoon after work. I have all the brackets and materials... just need to cut it up and assemble.

Have a great day.

Greg
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post #576 of 967
1/10/12 at 6:56pm
Hi Greg,

Looking forward to some photos showing how you fitted it all in behind the screen.

I can feel another trip up north coming on ... happy to bring mic and software for a play with the DCX !

Cheers,
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post #577 of 967
1/10/12 at 8:18pm
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I can feel another trip up north coming on ... happy to bring mic and software for a play with the DCX !

You could swing via my place on the way home

.....I still cant get my stupid soundcard working
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post #578 of 967
1/10/12 at 8:28pm
I thought you young blokes were supposed to be more tech savvy than us old dinosaurs ???
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post #579 of 967
1/10/12 at 8:33pm
Sorry to ask but wondered how far is everyone from Bathhurst?

Just wondered because I thought of making a trip MAYBE sometime late in the year but wondered if I could also go to the Danley Procella neck of the woods or not. LOL

Just wondering was all.
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post #580 of 967
1/10/12 at 8:42pm
It's about 3 hours to Greg and Peter, and about 3/4 hour extra to me.
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post #581 of 967
1/10/12 at 8:55pm
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I thought you young blokes were supposed to be more tech savvy than us old dinosaurs ???

LOL - I operate by the "plug it in and expect it to work" philosphy......computers sh!t me, networks moreso, wifi at the top of the list

Wouldn't you come over the mountains from Bathurst? i.e. your place is closer?

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Sorry to ask but wondered how far is everyone from Bathhurst?

Into audio and from Bathurst - you know Terry Jones? he's a bit of a legend in certain hifi circles

There ya go Greg, just got completely off topic. PS My theatre for one i.e. my study is nearing completion
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post #582 of 967
1/11/12 at 12:57am
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Wouldn't you come over the mountains from Bathurst? i.e. your place is closer?

I normally use the Bells road which brings you in through Windsor, onto M2 then it's up Pennant Hills to yours isn't it ? Having been away so long I find myself feeling like a foreigner sometimes ! Maybe the times would be similar ???

There, I think driving directions are suitably OT !
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post #583 of 967
1/11/12 at 1:01am
Just checked Google Maps ... from Windsor it'd be Cattai Ridge Road and then through Galston Gorge straight to Hornsby. Definitely quicker than getting to me.
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post #584 of 967
1/11/12 at 1:37am
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Hi Greg,

Looking forward to some photos showing how you fitted it all in behind the screen.

I can feel another trip up north coming on ... happy to bring mic and software for a play with the DCX !

Cheers,

Hi Peter,
Sounds great. Hope to have my cables by early next week. Frustrated that I went the eBay option. Should have spent the extra 20 bucks and gone to Jaycar.... Would have had them already. Wasn't in a rush when I ordered them.... Now I can't wait to hear those subs going. In any case, I can't get the subs on until I have treated that front wall. I'll sort that on Monday, wire the subs up, get the stage sorted and then it's time to play. Patience is a virtue!
BTW, thanks for the offer of some help with the mic and computer... That would be awesome. Just let me know when it suits you. Hope you know how to dial in the DCX.... It's all Chinese to me! As long as Peter the Greek brings Coopers, I guess it's ok for him to come as well
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post #585 of 967
1/11/12 at 1:40am
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And you guys, this isn't google maps and my thread is not a bloody Tom Tom to assist those geographically challenged among us. Space here is reserved for serious home theatre posts. When you see some... Let me know!
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post #586 of 967
1/11/12 at 6:46pm
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BTW, thanks for the offer of some help with the mic and computer... That would be awesome. Just let me know when it suits you. Hope you know how to dial in the DCX.... It's all Chinese to me! As long as Peter the Greek brings Coopers, I guess it's ok for him to come as well

I have REW, TrueRTA, a test disc I made myself many years ago, an SPL meter, a Behringer 8000 mic and Behringer mic preamp. Haven't used any of it for a while but it's time to dust it off and get ready for my own room. I'm also thinking about using the DCX myself, as Dennis advises I'll need two of the QSC's which means about $16k in Oz or about $8k if I buy from the US, so learning the DCX could prove very useful. Behringer has a PC app for control of the DCX so I reckon that'd be the way to go. My other option at the moment is the miniDSP route.

And you thought I was doing it all for you !!!

Cheers,
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post #587 of 967
1/11/12 at 6:52pm
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Dennis advises I'll need two of the QSC's which means about $16k in Oz or about $8k

Horse sh!t isn't it......I assume you've asked edgedigital for a price? they sold me the DCA amps at good prices

....BTW I have DSP30's and a DSP4 if you want to play/see em

.....paid A$450 for all 3 (ebay - not any more)

Why do you need them with active speakers?
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post #588 of 967
1/12/12 at 1:13am
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Horse sh!t isn't it......I assume you've asked edgedigital for a price? they sold me the DCA amps at good prices

....BTW I have DSP30's and a DSP4 if you want to play/see em

.....paid A$450 for all 3 (ebay - not any more)

Why do you need them with active speakers?

Dennis has spec'd EQ for all 14 channels, so that's a lot of DSP30's !

The Procella amps won't provide the EQ flexibilty I require.

If I go the DCX route I'll need 4 of them ! Amazon can do this for about $1k delivered.
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post #589 of 967
1/12/12 at 1:26am
I dont see the point in active then....perhaps I dont understand the advantages properly.

In my far off room, I was/am planning two 322ua's with each driver done separately....

I believe in the DIY community that mini dsp's are held in higher regard than the DCX - less issues at the top end
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post #590 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:04am
The Procella's are not truly active. For the P610 LCR's the Procella amp has a built in crossover for the split between the P6 top and the P10Si bottom, however the P6 still has a passive crossover between the compression driver and the midrange. All the P6 for sides and surrounds are passive speakers. The three P10Si balancing subs are also passive.

What I need to do is EQ for room correction not EQ to get flat speaker response. Active speakers don't necessarily help with room correction ... it would depend on the implementation.

My problem with the miniDSP's that I'd need is that they only come as raw boards. I'll probably try the DCX's, as I can always sell them here at no great loss if I decide they're not suitable.
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post #591 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:08am
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In my far off room, I was/am planning two 322ua's with each driver done separately....

Two wouldn't be enough for every driver in every channel. I need two just for one channel per channel. 2 x 322ua = 16 channels ... 9.5 setup = 14 channels. How many drivers / channels are you planning ?
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post #592 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:20am
Ah I see....I don't quite see the value proposition now, but I understand.... separate EQ makes it a very expensive setup

Fair enough on the mini dsp thing, look into the mods for the DCX's, not expensive from what I hear - other option is to ask mini dsp to make you a box to fit 14 channels in
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post #593 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:23am
BTW Greg, in absence of photos we're just making your thread look busy
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post #594 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:25am
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Two wouldn't be enough for every driver in every channel. I need two just for one channel per channel. 2 x 322ua = 16 channels ... 9.5 setup = 14 channels. How many drivers / channels are you planning ?

7 = 14

I could do subs with something else or buy a third and add bass modules to my mains

5 subs

.....hey whilst I am spending money I dont have, I could make the rears dipoles, that'd add another $4k to the cost in tweeters alone

"son....tell him he's dreamin"

.....just spent $300 on cables for stupid computer screens too.....I need to get a job supervising sub builds on weekends (where'd I put the saw?)
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post #595 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:47am
Yeah ... all this DSP EQ adds up real fast !!

At the moment I'm trying to spend on the things that can't easily be changed later. Ask me one day when I'm pi$$ed how much the double Rw47dB steel acoustic doors with full acoustic seals cost me !!! Just make sure it's when Mrs M ain't around !
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post #596 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:48am
Where's Greg ???
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post #597 of 967
1/12/12 at 2:55am
Terry J was the place I was trying to visit. And I was just hoping that maybe I could see some of these awesome builds in person while I am there.

But seeing that its not as close as I thought maybe not.

8K for EQ I was looking at possibly the DL2 from DataSat for EQ. All though I would just have the minidsp for my EQ in the beginning and REW.

Sorry to swing your thread of coarse with locations.
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post #598 of 967
1/12/12 at 3:02am
Ultimately my dream would be the new MP20 from Lex ! No more separate EQ !!
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post #599 of 967
1/12/12 at 3:05am
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

Terry J was the place I was trying to visit. And I was just hoping that maybe I could see some of these awesome builds in person while I am there.

But seeing that its not as close as I thought maybe not.

I didn't know Terry J was in Bathurst. If you're coming all the way from Adelaide, a few more hours is nothing !
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post #600 of 967
1/12/12 at 3:21am
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I have been busy watching two complete series of Sons of Anarchy on BD so I have been busy. And what do I return to???? chatter about your builds, your amps, your eqs and your road trips. People..... IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!!!!
I hope that we can shortly return to a time when I am again the master of my domain!
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