New Onkyo TX-NR5008 & TX-NR3008 - Page 5

Originally Posted by Eldiablos

Yeah on the Onkyo 3008 is 2099.99 and the Denon is 1999.99. Thanks to that posted pick I am happy the Denon is 4 Ohm Certified as two of my speakers are 4 Ohms.

Originally Posted by Shnapper

Kinda lost me.....Is it the mains or every speaker? Is it the speakers or how XT32 is equalizing your room? What mains are you using? Is TV and PS3 your only sources? I should get the 5008 soon as it is in transit via FedEx. I will listen for this tunnel effect, I wonder if you got a bad unit or not. Post as soon as you try another receiver, hopefully another receiver with XT32..Also isn't this problem fixable with a firmware update? I know the unit is new with no support yet, but if XT32 truly is a problem can't it be fixed with an update?

I returned an Integra 50.2 due to the video stutter while the OSD was active as I need the OSD to see where the unit is set. I liked the sound of it though. The 50.2 didn't have XT32, so I hope your unit was a fluke...

Originally Posted by jmalto

I'll simplify this for you. Running auto-setup and then engaging Audyssey XT32 with Dynamic EQ=Tin/Echo sound (pick some familiar music or movies and listen for it.) It makes it really easy to hear by putting the receiver into mono mode so only the center channel plays. Turning off Audyssey resulted in crisp, clear, dialog and sound.

I have a full 7.2 AV123 Rocket setup with 2 Danley DTS-10 subwoofers. Every speaker experienced this problem but the center channel was the most noticeable since that is where the dialog comes from. The dynamics of the sound also changed and was a lot softer with Audyssey engaged.

I have the receiver packed up and it is ready to go back today. I am on the fence about trying the 5008 or just trying the new Denon. I will wait to see what you have to say about yours. My box wasn't in the best of shape upon arrival so it is possible something got jarred around in shipment, but this would be the first time I've ever had a receiver get damaged in transit and I've owned a lot.

There is a song called Savior by the band Rise Against, in the beginning it is soft music with the lead singer singing for about a minute. You can easily hear the "tinny" and echo throughout the part of the song so it may be worth trying out. It was also very noticeable with Transformers blu-ray.

I honestly think I got a bad unit, there is no way Onkyo would ship these with that critical of a flaw. I noticed it immediately the first time I fired up a movie.

Originally Posted by sterryo

try to buy a Denon for 1299

Originally Posted by Eldiablos

Thank you much for the advice. As of right now the Denon is looking like the winner.

Originally Posted by googlegod

Just for the hell of it, run auto setup with the subs OFF, listen to find if that clears up the issues.
What I'm saying is that powerful subs just may throw Audyssey off track.

Originally Posted by jmalto

Chris from Audyssey said the filters for the mains and the filters for the subs are independent and one would not affect the other.

Originally Posted by Audiodork

Hello,
Wow. I cannot believe a problem like that made it past Beta Testing. While I am quite confident this can be fixed with a Firmware Update, this is definitely not the way a highly anticipated revision should be released.
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by jmalto

Willie - The NR3007 and 5007 had relay clicking issues that they addressed with firmware updates pretty soon after they first came out which was last years models.

Originally Posted by gurkey

Note:
Audyssey, CTO Chris Kyrakakis, has just announced, that the first production run of the 3008 / 5008 has a firmware bug, which causes the stated problems. There will be an official announcement by Onkyo following, up to which serial no this problem exists. For those units affected a firmware update will be provided by Onkyo.

Originally Posted by bakerwi

jmalto,

Aufyssye MultEQ XT32 is an advertised feature that should work right out of the box and was a part of the reason I was considering the 3008 vs the 3007. I bet some will be holding off on their purchase decision until this is resolved. Did the firmware update for the clicking remedy the problem in the 3007 or just lowered the sound of the clicking?


Willie

Originally Posted by gurkey

The "relay clicking" issue wasn't one, really, because it happened only, if the user did not setup default audio modes in the setup, thus causing the unit to hunt / search for a new mode every time the input parameters changed. They just added a convenience feature, to have this subdued in the case, this was the cause.
This matter - and its remedy - has been discussed extensively in several forums and threads already.

Originally Posted by googlegod

Well its not really a problem, its just the way it works. Still it will click when watching HD TV when there are breaks in the programming and switchs between 2.0 to 5.1 and 5.0, comcast sometimes drops the LFE channel. Once the Audyssey bug is fixed the 5008 should be a winners trophy on any shelf.

Originally Posted by Gigabite

That's just not acceptable. Think about it - every commercial and channel change will cause an audible click as the rcvr syncs on the different audio feed. At times, I'm a heavy channel surfer (over 100+ HD channels) and I see the audio changes on my Denon 3808ci but it's noiseless.

Scratch the Onkyo 5008 from my list. I'm down to the Denon 4311ci and Integra DTR-70.2 ..... if they're ever released.

Thanks for pointing this out.