New Onkyo TX-NR5008 & TX-NR3008 - Page 18

Now that I've got Internet Radio working, I'm seeing a new issue with the 5008 and Pandora. After approximately 30 minutes of playing, the receiver completely shuts off. First three times I didn't time it, last time was exactly 30 minutes. Starting another timed cycle now. Anybody else seeing similar?

Second test . . . exactly 30 minutes again.

The SACD/ DVDA source via analog are from a denon dvd player, and I also tried DD content via Coax (which was weak). With my set top Directv I have now tried both HDMI, and optical with same result - weak volume.
Even the "better" volume I report with the 7.1 analog in DVD-A/SACD is probably weak for this unit.
I'm at a loss. I'm just not sure what could be going on. You would think that it would either sound terrible, or not and volume wouldn't be the issue.

Question, with all the firmware issues and stuff on the new receivers, would it be better if I got a 5007 for less than what a new 3008 would cost? Crutchfield and J&R has some on clearance. For the money, it seems that might be the way to go, but you guys are the experts.

Strange...37 minutes and going.

EDIT:

47 minutes, and I am manually shutting it down.

It seems like a number of people here had last year's model with Audyssey XT. Can any of you tell a difference between XT and XT32? What do you notice? On paper, it sounds like a must-have feature, but can any of you honestly say that you hear an improvement with XT32? Sorry if the question was already asked...I must have missed it.

Is it possible for you to answer my question about the wire color sequence used on your CAT5 cable, please see 508, Thx....

Could be you listen to a WMA station, that will shut down after # minutes.
This should be corrected by a FW update......
If its a MP3 station, its a different problem and do not know what.

Is it possible for you to answer my question about the wire color sequence used on your CAT5 cable, please see 508, Thx....

Sorry, I missed your question. I think that there has been a misunderstanding. CAT5 did NOT work for me. CAT5e AND CAT6 both work with no issues.

CAT5: TIA/EIA-568-B.2 3P Verified
CAT5e: TIA/EIA 568A LL84201 CSA Type CMG FT4 Patch Cable
CAT6: TIA/EIA-568B-2-1 (Current)

The CAT5e is the cable I had installed when I did the firware update over the net.

Thx.
I use now a CAT6 TIA/EIA-568B, but have not the 2-1 printed on the cable.
And this is not working on the defauilt reciever setting for Network.

This is what i tried this morning:

Its 100% the connection between the receiver and the modem/router as when i pull the cable box from the wall socket (UPC cable) the receiver will keep being connected to the router.
It will stop playing but when i reconnect the wall cable box it will start playing again with no problems at all.
When i pull the cable of the playing receiver and put it back, problems start again with "now initializing" for ever, and ever....
So its the connection between receiver > modem/router.

As not every user has this problem it must be in the used UTP cable.
But as mentioned before, the 3007 had no problem on the same cable and router !!

Every one of the brand new AVRs seem to have some issues first time, because every unit has some new or changed features or behavior which might have a lurking problem under the surface. This seems to be manufacturer independent reading through the different model specific threads.
Its the same with every "new" complex product like cameras, phones and other consumer electronics. This gets usually cured with some firmware update(s) sooner or later.
Either wait some time before buying any of the brand new stuff or get yourself one of prior generation items, which are on the market already.
It really depends on what you are after...

Never purchase from the first batch of any new electronics. EVER.

I don't know if this means anything to you, but my cable company has my devices hooked up in the following order: Cable line (wall) >> Cable Modem >> Cable box. Is yours set up the same way? Since the cable box comes after the modem, I don't see why it would affect internet connection. Maybe I am misunderstanding something.

This is the product description of my cable: CAT 6 550MHz UTP 1FT Cable - Black

EDIT: I am running a 50FT CAT6 UTP patch cable to my Ethernet switch. From the switch, I have the 1FT cable going to my receiver. I also have cables going to my TV and BD player.

Why not will we all die or the world self implode? My 5008 is working fine, I have not turned it off for 30 days. If it blows up I will move it to the side and buy something else that I'm sure won't be perfect either..

Why not? I do without a problem. If anything the first batch may be where the greatest care is taken.


Shnapper,

I have bought plenty off products upon initial release without a problem. Manufacturers try to flush as many problems as possible during beta testing, but they can't catch them all due to the various setups. Potential problems exist throughout the entire life cycle of products regardless when purchased. You've had 5008 without an issue and there probably more 3008 and 5008 who are experiencing problem free operation who don't frequent this thread or forum.


Willie

I was not clear, ideed also by me the setup is Cable line (but i called it "cable box from the wall") >> Cable modem >> Receiver.
So the setup is the same.

I can pull the Cable line, then the receiver just stops playing, when i put it back the receiver connects and starts playing.
When i pull the cable from the modem, the receiver stops, when i put it back it will start initializing but this is not stopping.
So its absolute the connection fromt the receiver to the modem where stuff starts to go wrong, and i think its the cable but i am out of options as i have a CAT5E and CAT6 that seems to work for you but not for me
For now i leave it on Network Control as this gives a stable connection, even i think it must work on the default setting, without the Network Control, wat is using power 24/7..........

Seems to be a particular station. Tried another and it played for hours without an issue.

I would say no at this point, no one is raving about it, I believe there is no one even sure if its fully working, they just say its not sounding funky or as bad as it first did before the firmware update at this time. You my need to wait for the denon 4311 users to get a full report as denon users may be more knowledgeable on this subject.

Actually, I am most interested in opinions on X32 from the perspective of using it in a .2 (dual independent and symmetrically placed subwoofers) configuration.

On the 80hz up side of things, there may be diminishing returns vs XT.

After much delay, finally sprung for a new 3008 a few days ago in replacement of my ancient TX-SV727.

I haven't wired/set up the TV room yet, so have only toyed around with iRadio (Pandora, specifically) with headphones, and updated the firmware (successfully) via network connection.

One annoyance I've thus discovered, that I wonder if anyone else has seen, is the remote control will NOT allow for menu navigation whilst playing music in Pandora. The directional and "Return" buttons on the front of the 3008 will allow for navigating around in Pandora, but the remote control's buttons will NOT. The remote is in "Receiver" mode, and other functions will work (such as Mute), but the arrow, "Enter", and "Return" buttons on the remote will not answer to movement command. The 3008's "remote command received" light (the red colored "Standby" light) WILL illuminate when I hit an arrow key, thus proving that the unit is receiving the commands, but the menu will not respond. As said, you can only navigate the menu via the on-board, front panel buttons on the receiver itself.

Anyone know a trick to getting this basic, brainless sort of function to work properly via the remote? Or is this perhaps a bug in the unit? I'd expect the latter, which really pi**es me off, considering this is supposed to be a high-end Onkyo, and isn't cheap.

Thanks for your insight on the matter, all...

I've got an odd upscaling issue. I'm playing an older avi file that is originally 640x480 from my PC. I went into my PC's nvidia control panel, and told it to use the display's built-in upscaling. I also went into menu 1-1 and set Monitor Out HDMI Main to display 1080p. When the file plays from my media player, the TV shows a resolution of 640x480. The same thing happens when I tell nvidia to not scale. I thought the 3008 was supposed to upscale everything to 1080p.

I noticed that for some files it will work, and others, it doesn't. All video is connected with DVI/HDMI. When the TV doesn't display "1920x1080" I notice that the scaling is off, and the top and bottom of the picture go beyond the screen's visible area--in other words, a little bit of the top & bottom aren't visible.

Any ideas?

I just got Pandora to work.... first day I've had time to set my 5800 up, smile.

I'm not having any problems with remote and Pandora.... Pandora plays and SOUNDS great, smile...."Return" works fine on my remote, did you get into Pandora via your remote? net/usb button on remote?

my BG radia speakers LOVE my Onkyo 5800! I haven't run Audyssey yet.... but to my ears my 5800 sounds GREAT! smile. happy day.

cheers

I must be wayyyyyyy behind the times, but this Pandora thing seems to have caused an itch in many jock straps LMAO! I never planned on hooking up my 5008 to the net so I guess I won't know what these problems are...

I just looked at Pandora a minute ago for the first time in my life, it's sounds like crap, no better than SAT. Radio. I guess Pandora is free so is that why everyone likes it so much? Is there any problems or bugs per say using Sirius Radio? I'm just wondering why I can't find nothing to complain about yet, I feel left out.... LOL!


UP there ^^^^^^^ you have a 5800 or a 5008? lord have mercy!

I've got a Samsung BD-P2550 Blu-Ray player connected to the 5008. Unable to get Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD to work. Player is set to bitstream audiophile. Disc menu audio plays fine, but once the movie starts, the Onkyo flips over to "Unknown" audio input and "All Channel Stereo" audio output. I've tested the player on a different Onkyo (508) and it works fine. Any ideas?

If I want to pump more clean power to drive speakers, many have suggested using the receiver's pre-outs and run the signal to an external amplifier, and many have suggested Emotiva.

I don't know much about external amps, but if I have a 5.1 speaker setup, I guess it's basically running 5 RCA cables from the receiver's pre-outs into the Emotiva XPA-5 amp's inputs? And then run speaker wires from the Emotiva directly to the speakers.

Is it as easy as that?

And I keep the subwoofer's pre-out RCA cable in my receiver as before.

Is the Emotiva XPA-5 as good as you can get (for the price) as far as a 5-channel external amp goes?

Anything else I should know?

Could an external amp be "too much" power for my surrounds (8-ohm, front stage are 4-ohm).?

When i play songs from my HDD through the USB on every song switch the receiver is making a MUTE click.
This s the same click you hear when you push the mute button on the remote.

And try this:

Disable the sub(s) in the speaker setup menu and: NO mute clicks
Activate the sub(s) again and: the MUTE cilcks are back.

This is to do with your sound card software drivers... and where and when they turn the digital signal on and off, as well as whether they resync/reset or change the sample rate.
If you set the software to a hard sample rate (16/44,24/96, whatever...) then the clicks will go away - but it is also likely that windows will then resample whatever sound you play into that specific rate - with sometimes variable results.

I use a resampling plugin for winamp (Directsound SSRC) in Mediamonkey, which resamples all my audio to 24bit 96MHz - and keep the sound card at 24/96 with SPDIF coax feeding into the AVR.

Results will vary with different sound cards, and software configurations - the clicking happens whenever the system resyncs the digital clock rate - and that in turn is triggered by drivers/software.

I am not using the PC to do this, its a external USB HDD connected to the front USB port of the receiver.
So i have no control of the signal thats going in.
I have various sound rates like MP3 128 and 320kB and FLAC.
On all files it will mute between songs.
Also when i skip a movie part on my BD its muting in between.

What i do not get is that when the subs (i have 2) are disabled in the speaker setup menu, the clicks are gone...........
Had a few weeks ago a TX NR708 to test and that receiver had no mute clicks between songs, same setup !
Also my 3007 made the mute clicks, and NO mute clicks on Internet radio.

Did a Audyssey XT32 run just now and i must say its BETTER then the XT version.
I base this on the fact that with XT i allways had to adjust the speaker levels of the front and surround speakers to my liking.
Found allways that the surrounds were to soft and front to loud, with XT32 no problems, they are exact in balance (in my home situation) and thats a big + for me.
Also that its calibrating the 2 subs separate instade as 1 is a good feature.
I have 2 different brand subs and in the XT32 way its calibrated to work as one.

Sound is crisp and its also the first time i do not feel the need to boost the highs

hows the heat output on the 3008?