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post #5101 of 8421
3/24/11 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by davepr View Post

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Depending who you bought from they may cross ship. Amazon does. Amazon will also pay returns shipping but you have to ask. Best to talk to customer service and ask for what you want.

Yep ... gonna call newegg.com tomorrow morning ...

The box had a hole, and the plastic transparent cover on the front of the AVR looked like it had been hit with a sledge hammer.
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post #5102 of 8421
3/25/11 at 2:10am
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

I don't have surround backs, but if you have to re-wire to go from wides&heights (simultaneously) to say, wides&surround backs, do you have to re-run audyssey?

Unfortunately yes, you'll have to re-run the Audyssey calibration for each change in configuration. There is a method, listed by kbarnes in this thread to save ONE Audyssey calibration, but we can't save more than one calibration at a time, so switching back and forth can't be accomplished easily.


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post #5103 of 8421
3/25/11 at 3:47am
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

Unfortunately yes, you'll have to re-run the Audyssey calibration for each change in configuration. There is a method, listed by kbarnes in this thread to save ONE Audyssey calibration, but we can't save more than one calibration at a time, so switching back and forth can't be accomplished easily.


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To save JimLely searching

Store and Recall settings - Onkyo 5007
To STORE:
1. Push and hold Setup on the AVR (not the remote)
2. Then push Enter
3. Unit displays 'Setup store?"
4. Still holding Setup, push Enter again
5. Unit displays "Setup storing'
6. Unit then displays 'Complete'
All your settings are now stored.

To RECALL:
1. Push and hold Setup on the AVR
2. Then push Return
3. Unit displays 'Setup recall?'
4. Still holding Setup, push Return again
5. Unit displays 'Setup recalling'
6. Unit then displays 'Complete'
Unit then powers off into standby mode. Switch unit back on, your settings have been restored.

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #5104 of 8421
3/25/11 at 7:05am
My initial run of Audyssey set my fronts at 40 Hz, Center at 40 Hz and surrounds and surround backs at 50 Hz.

Although the sound is good, doesn't this seem a little extreme? (I haven't watched any movies yet, only music.)



Mondo: Take photos. I never collected from that shipper on a damaged subwoofer. They claimed the manufacturers packaging was insufficient.
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post #5105 of 8421
3/25/11 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Mondo Rock View Post

Yep ... gonna call newegg.com tomorrow morning ...

The box had a hole, and the plastic transparent cover on the front of the AVR looked like it had been hit with a sledge hammer.

If I remember right, Newegg does not have a phone number (one of the pitfalls of Newegg). Communication is by e-mail. I prefer phone since e-mail can be too impersonal when asking for something not an automatic part of policy.
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post #5106 of 8421
3/25/11 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

To save JimLely searching

Store and Recall settings - Onkyo 5007
To STORE:
1. Push and hold Setup on the AVR (not the remote)
2. Then push Enter
3. Unit displays 'Setup store?"
4. Still holding Setup, push Enter again
5. Unit displays "Setup storing'
6. Unit then displays 'Complete'
All your settings are now stored.

To RECALL:
1. Push and hold Setup on the AVR
2. Then push Return
3. Unit displays 'Setup recall?'
4. Still holding Setup, push Return again
5. Unit displays 'Setup recalling'
6. Unit then displays 'Complete'
Unit then powers off into standby mode. Switch unit back on, your settings have been restored.

Kind Regards,

Keith

Keith,

Thanks very much.

Jim
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post #5107 of 8421
3/25/11 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by SugarmillMan View Post

My initial run of Audessy set my fronts at 40 Hz, Center at 40 Hz and surrounds and surround backs at 50 Hz.

Although the sound is good, doesn't this seem a little extreme? (I haven't watched any movies yet, only music.)

It's what Audyssey found in your particular room. Unless you have some really kick-ass front/surround speakers, I'd up the XO to 80Hz or so on all three and let the sub do what it was designed for (assuming you have a half-decent sub). Will take some strain off the AVR/amp for the front/surround channels too which will help with headroom. Can’t see any point in forcing the fronts/surrounds to go down that low when you have a sub that was designed for one thing and one thing alone: to go down low. FWIW, mine get set to 40Hz for the mains and 70Hz for the surrounds, even though the spec is that they roll off at 80Hz (THX spec) and are designed only to be used in conjunction with a sub. I set them all to 80Hz.

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #5108 of 8421
3/25/11 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

It's what Audyssey found in your particular room. Unless you have some really kick-ass front/surround speakers, I'd up the XO to 80Hz or so on all three and let the sub do what it was designed for (assuming you have a half-decent sub). Will take some strain off the AVR/amp for the front/surround channels too which will help with headroom. Can't see any point in forcing the fronts/surrounds to go down that low when you have a sub that was designed for one thing and one thing alone: to go down low. FWIW, mine get set to 40Hz for the mains and 70Hz for the surrounds, even though the spec is that they roll off at 80Hz (THX spec) and are designed only to be used in conjunction with a sub. I set them all to 80Hz.

Kind Regards,

Keith

Thanks, Keith. I'll give it a try and advise of the results. My mains are B&W 804Ds but my surrounds are just some small Polk surrounds. Sub is a HSU VTK 3-3.
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post #5109 of 8421
3/25/11 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by jayman_1975 View Post

Overall i am super happy with my new 5008. One thing so far that i feel my Arcam Av9 did better is do "phantom center". I do not currently have a center channel as i sold it awhile ago. With the Av9 i could not tell a difference with or without it when watching movies or tv. The "phantom center" with the av9 was so believable but sadly the Onkyo just doesnt keep up.

Maybe someone could tell me if i am missing something. I am using PL II Movie listening mode and have the center channel set to "off". According to the manual, it should automatically do "phantom center" with no center channel present. Is there a better setting for this or a way to tweak to get a more believable phantom center?



Well it turns out I figured out the problem. I had not done any calibrations yet as I was waiting for a day where I had some time to do the proper Audyssey set up. Last night I dug out my trusty SPL meter and calibrated everything manually and not it sounds excellent. I can't believe I was stressing about this lol.
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post #5110 of 8421
3/25/11 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by jayman_1975 View Post

Well it turns out I figured out the problem. I had not done any calibrations yet as I was waiting for a day where I had some time to do the proper Audyssey set up. Last night I dug out my trusty SPL meter and calibrated everything manually and not it sounds excellent. I can't believe I was stressing about this lol.

Audyssey MultEQ XT32 does a lot more than set distances and levels though. It creates thousands of filters which adjust the frequency response of each speaker as heard in your actual room. When you run XT32, you will be even more impressed

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #5111 of 8421
3/25/11 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Audyssey MultEQ XT32 does a lot more than set distances and levels though. It creates thousands of filters which adjust the frequency response of each speaker as heard in your actual room. When you run XT32, you will be even more impressed

Kind Regards,

Keith

I am looking forward to what the Audyssey MultEQ XT32 will do in my room. It already sounds excellent. I followed that link you gave me a few days ago and had a quick look but i noticed the thread is 1200 pages long so i didn't have time to read it all so i'll have to wait on setting up the Audyssey till i have more time. Thanks.
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post #5112 of 8421
3/26/11 at 9:35am
I have a question regarding sub setup. So far, for music, I seem to want to keep my fronts at 40Hz crossover and want the sub to filter at 50Hz with its volume up a bit. With movies, it seems the sub should filter much higher for LFE with volume lower given the greater frequency range.

Is there a way to have different sub eq and levels associated with different listening modes (eg, stereo vs. THX cinema modes)? I'm not seeing it so far.

Thanks.
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post #5113 of 8421
3/26/11 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by davepr View Post

If I remember right, Newegg does not have a phone number (one of the pitfalls of Newegg). Communication is by e-mail. I prefer phone since e-mail can be too impersonal when asking for something not an automatic part of policy.

That was my initial impression, but when I tried to get an online RMA for Carrier damage, a pop-up directed me to their phone number - (800) 390-1119 - to report damage.

When I asked if they could dispatch a new receiver before they received back the damaged one, I was told 'yes' on the phone.

Then I receive this little ditty in an email ... "ITEM(S) TO BE RETURNED MUST BE RECEIVED BEFORE A REFUND OR REPLACEMENT IS SENT."

Hmmm. Not quite what I was told ... whatever ... now just gotta get dopey UPS to pick it up.

BTW ... here is the damage ... I didnt even bother turning it on or unwrapping anything else ... its going straight back to newegg ...







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post #5114 of 8421
3/26/11 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by Mondo Rock View Post

The 5008 is in the mail ...

Questions ...

[1] The 5008 has two sub pre-outs. I have an SVS PB13 Ultra, and two front Def Tech BP7001SC speakers which accept LFE input. Id like to run LFE to all three.


Should I split the one cable running from pre-out 1 to my SVSPB13 and BP7001SCs (3-way Y splitter)?
or
Should I have one cable running from pre-out 1 to the SVSPB13, and a second cable running from pre-out 2 to the BP7001SCs (single y-splitter)?

(and run a second cable through walls ... not the end of the world but )



[2] Does anyone here run Audyssey XT32 and an SVS AS-EQ1? Or is the AS-EQ1 redundant (ie XT32 sufficent for room and bass adjustments).

Yes ... I know there is a HUGE Audyssey thread ... but it is just that - HUGE!


Cheers!

With my 7001s, I ran a cable from one of the AVR sub-outs directly to my stand-alone sub. Then I used a y-cable to split the signal from the second AVR sub-out to each tower.

Set the gains on the sub and towers at 12 noon and see what Audyssey advises when you run it. Don't be surprised if it asks you to lower the gain on your sub.

Run Audyssey and enjoy.

The AVR will probably set your towers at 40hz xover. I recommend setting them at 80hz and let your stand-alone sub do the heavy lifting.

Set your LPF of the LFE to 120.

I find that Audyssey does a fine job of EQing the bass without assistance from another source. I had an SMS-1 before I got an AVR with Audyssey. I sold the SMS-1.

Some report that using both does an even better job by employing the outboard EQ first, and then running Audyssey.

I guess it just depends on how much EQ you want/need.
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post #5115 of 8421
3/26/11 at 11:04am
Mondo- We all can feel the pain from this one! The damage is terrible. There is no excuse for having damage that extensive.

Please keep all of us posted on how this plays out. You are in need of a little justice here!
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post #5116 of 8421
3/26/11 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by SugarmillMan View Post

Mondo- We all can feel the pain from this one! The damage is terrible. There is no excuse for having damage that extensive.

Please keep all of us posted on how this plays out. You are in need of a little justice here!

Yeah ... UPS screwed the pooch on this one. Typically, I find them pretty reliable, but this looks like something hit the front of the box, and went through the cardboard, through the styrofoam and impacted the receiver, as you can see in the last pix.

UPS needs to send someone out to "inspect" the damage - probably because of the value of the item.

No big deal - more of just an inconvenience. I certainly dont anticipate getting knocked back on my claim - I received damaged goods and the carrier is liable: end of story.

Cheers!
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post #5117 of 8421
3/26/11 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by pilot20 View Post

With my 7001s, I ran a cable from one of the AVR sub-outs directly to my stand-alone sub. Then I used a y-cable to split the signal from the second AVR sub-out to each tower.

Set the gains on the sub and towers at 12 noon and see what Audyssey advises when you run it. Don't be surprised if it asks you to lower the gain on your sub.

Run Audyssey and enjoy.

The AVR will probably set your towers at 40hz xover. I recommend setting them at 80hz and let your stand-alone sub do the heavy lifting.

Set your LPF of the LFE to 120.

I find that Audyssey does a fine job of EQing the bass without assistance from another source. I had an SMS-1 before I got an AVR with Audyssey. I sold the SMS-1.

Some report that using both does an even better job by employing the outboard EQ first, and then running Audyssey.

I guess it just depends on how much EQ you want/need.

Pilot - thanks for this - will try it when the replacement 5008 lands.

Cheers!

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post #5118 of 8421
3/26/11 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Mondo Rock View Post

That was my initial impression, but when I tried to get an online RMA for Carrier damage, a pop-up directed me to their phone number - (800) 390-1119 - to report damage.

When I asked if they could dispatch a new receiver before they received back the damaged one, I was told 'yes' on the phone.

Then I receive this little ditty in an email ... "ITEM(S) TO BE RETURNED MUST BE RECEIVED BEFORE A REFUND OR REPLACEMENT IS SENT."

Hmmm. Not quite what I was told ... whatever ... now just gotta get dopey UPS to pick it up.

BTW ... here is the damage ... I didnt even bother turning it on or unwrapping anything else ... its going straight back to newegg ...








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Originally Posted by SugarmillMan View Post

Mondo- We all can feel the pain from this one! The damage is terrible. There is no excuse for having damage that extensive.

Please keep all of us posted on how this plays out. You are in need of a little justice here!

HI ALL. Well i do feel your pain. I few years ago i had some KLIPSCH RF3's delivered an they were damaged also. But had some insurance and used it. Repaired them myself, so the over $350+ paid for turned to $100. So in turn; when i ordered my 5008, i asked the merchant if they could change from UPS TO FEDEX; they said sure. And so when they finally shipped; their was some damage; but VERY MINIMAL. THIS AVR IS A BEAST. I would say the delivery guy second guess and gripped it again; just better. But for you; that person just straight dropped it. They should put a sticker on the box; "THIS MOE FOE IS HHHEEAAAVVYYYYY!"
BUT Onkyo should use rigid foam instead of this Styrofoam. It is to cheap for the weight of this AVR.
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post #5119 of 8421
3/26/11 at 6:28pm
It looks like it was poked by a forklift, this is what you refurb fans will be buying in a few weeks from we-screw-u-4-less.
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post #5120 of 8421
3/26/11 at 6:55pm
It's the simple Sh*t that throws a monkey wrebch in the works .. been fooocing around trying to get my UPA-7 & AVR (5008) up & running 9 speakers H/W' & it was a speakers lead came off one of the wides .. L O L ... damn fusterating that can be ..when You KNOW everything is right .. & come to find days later It was my fault all along .. :P
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3/26/11 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by Mondo Rock View Post

That was my initial impression, but when I tried to get an online RMA for Carrier damage, a pop-up directed me to their phone number - (800) 390-1119 - to report damage.

When I asked if they could dispatch a new receiver before they received back the damaged one, I was told 'yes' on the phone.

Then I receive this little ditty in an email ... "ITEM(S) TO BE RETURNED MUST BE RECEIVED BEFORE A REFUND OR REPLACEMENT IS SENT."

Hmmm. Not quite what I was told ... whatever ... now just gotta get dopey UPS to pick it up.

Mondo, That is f'd up... Looks like it rolled off the back of the truck at 60 mph. I would give that number a call again and make sure the verbal overrides the e-mail. I hope they are paying return shipping. That is one heavy busted avr.
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post #5122 of 8421
3/26/11 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

It's the simple Sh*t that throws a monkey wrebch in the works .. been fooocing around trying to get my UPA-7 & AVR (5008) up & running 9 speakers H/W' & it was a speakers lead came off one of the wides .. L O L ... damn fusterating that can be ..when You KNOW everything is right .. & come to find days later It was my fault all along .. :P

HI ALL. YUP ! TOLD you. Check the dumb stuff. But glad you got'er done. But here is something; i don't know if it just me. But watching BR on the PS3 and notice that volume go only so loud. I mean it is good; but wondering if there is a setting to check. Been trying to figure it out. or is just me ??
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post #5123 of 8421
3/26/11 at 8:26pm
adjust the PS3 volume it's @ 50% default , should be in the PS3 settings
My PC was that way when I was streaming some live shows I have on my home network thru my HTPC . couldn't seem to get any punch to the volume until I checked that the PC volume was @ 50%
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post #5124 of 8421
3/26/11 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

adjust the PS3 volume it's @ 50% default , should be in the PS3 settings
My PC was that way when I was streaming some live shows I have on my home network thru my HTPC . couldn't seem to get any punch to the volume until I checked that the PC volume was @ 50%

EHY ? it's getting late, hi. umm, yea i hit the triangle brought up the menu and turn up the volume output; actually all the way. So now the thought of distortion or not. I no hear it, but previously before the last calibration it was to me louder then than now. I mean like i can prior notice when i got to "REF" lights up then it was LOUD. Now it is loud but like something different. Oh well.... if you got some knowledge share it.... I still gonna tinker, but for now it sleep. PEACE an goood night.
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post #5125 of 8421
3/26/11 at 10:42pm
Well 9 speakers is Killer
BUT I can't use the zone triggers for the Emotiva UPA-7
anymore using 9 channels .. small price to pay ...
put my mains on the 5008 & left all the others on the UPA-7
the headroom is awesome to say the least ..........
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post #5126 of 8421
3/27/11 at 6:40am
Fastslaapy,

Just Curious why you can't use the Zone triggers for your EMO? I am using the zone 3 trigger to turn my UPA-7 on and works fine. I am using my UPA-7 for LRC + Surround + zone 2 speakers. Works Well for me as only driving 5 speakers during movie watching(a little more headroom on EMO), and 3008 driving 4 high and wides. Glad to hear you like the 9 channels. I just sit and grin from ear to ear when I am watching a movie at reference now
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post #5127 of 8421
3/27/11 at 8:05am
My All Off control on the Onkyo remote doesn't seem to turn everything to all off. I am running an amplifier on the main zone and another amp on zone 2. I have the remote programed to turn everything on in sequence, however, it won't turn everything off like my older Onkyo remote did.

What am I doing wrong?
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post #5128 of 8421
3/27/11 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by jaugustu View Post
Fastslaapy,

Just Curious why you can't use the Zone triggers for your EMO? I am using the zone 3 trigger to turn my UPA-7 on and works fine. I am using my UPA-7 for LRC + Surround + zone 2 speakers. Works Well for me as only driving 5 speakers during movie watching(a little more headroom on EMO), and 3008 driving 4 high and wides. Glad to hear you like the 9 channels. I just sit and grin from ear to ear when I am watching a movie at reference now
seems when you are driving 9 channels the zones are disabled , when U select heights & wides in set-up & then run Audyssey, that is when the zones are disabled.
i have the rear surrounds as a pre-out to the wides
wides & heights run as pre-out to the heights . that was the only way to get the 9 channels to run all @ once .
thou a P I A having to get a trigger now ... the over all SQ of the 9 channels in Audyssey DSX is Really amazing to say the least can You Say "Wall O' Sound " L O L

i was running zone 3 as my trigger when I was running 7 channels so I did have that up & usable till I had all 9 channels . now it will not even lite the zone lites up on the display
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post #5129 of 8421
3/27/11 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post
seems when you are driving 9 channels the zones are disabled
Have you looked inside your 5008 with the lid off? Having looked inside my 3008, it appears that there is a main zone trigger, but there just isn't a socket soldered onto the board. I assume that anyone who is handy with a soldering iron and a drill could easily add one.
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3/27/11 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post
Well 9 speakers is Killer
BUT I can't use the zone triggers for the Emotiva UPA-7
anymore using 9 channels .. small price to pay ...
put my mains on the 5008 & left all the others on the UPA-7
the headroom is awesome to say the least ..........
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Originally Posted by jaugustu View Post
Fastslaapy,

Just Curious why you can't use the Zone triggers for your EMO? I am using the zone 3 trigger to turn my UPA-7 on and works fine. I am using my UPA-7 for LRC + Surround + zone 2 speakers. Works Well for me as only driving 5 speakers during movie watching(a little more headroom on EMO), and 3008 driving 4 high and wides. Glad to hear you like the 9 channels. I just sit and grin from ear to ear when I am watching a movie at reference now
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post
seems when you are driving 9 channels the zones are disabled , when U select heights & wides in set-up & then run Audyssey, that is when the zones are disabled.
i have the rear surrounds as a pre-out to the wides
wides & heights run as pre-out to the heights . that was the only way to get the 9 channels to run all @ once .
thou a P I A having to get a trigger now ... the over all SQ of the 9 channels in Audyssey DSX is Really amazing to say the least can You Say "Wall O' Sound " L O L

i was running zone 3 as my trigger when I was running 7 channels so I did have that up & usable till I had all 9 channels . now it will not even lite the zone lites up on the display
HI ALL, another day. And the 5008 is ON. But you guys peak my interest. One; using another external amp to drive a number a speakers. An i assuming that running audysssey; DO affect sound going to that amp? 2, that there is a trigger or not to turn it on. I am thinking is this is the way i need to go to further morph the 5008 into audio bliss? An that is that why i am thinking that so called how loud it it now is not as LOUD it was? or is it me, just because. Have i capped out the 5008 and it running like it suppose to.?
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