New Onkyo TX-NR5008 & TX-NR3008 - Page 20

Originally Posted by Orangevee

If I'm running 4-ohm speakers with the Onkyo 3008, is it best to set the receiver at 4-ohm or leave it at 8-ohm???

I heard that setting it at 4-ohm actualy reduces the power output..

Anyone know the answer to this??

Originally Posted by Orangevee

If I'm running 4-ohm speakers with the Onkyo 3008, is it best to set the receiver at 4-ohm or leave it at 8-ohm???

I heard that setting it at 4-ohm actualy reduces the power output..

Anyone know the answer to this??

Originally Posted by mcsoul

Unless you changed your rack ventilation with only a 1/2" of clearance, stick to the 4 ohm setting. If you ran the 8ohm setting on five or seven 4 ohm speakers in that rack; I expect you may have a new 3008 complaint post in the near future

Originally Posted by Orangevee

Hehehe. It's actualy not in a rack, it's on a shelf with all sides open to air, only the top part is covered 80% with only 1/2" clearance because of a shelf on top of the receiver...

And the Onkyo don't seem to have much vent holes on their sides, most of the venting comes from the top of the receiver, so I might be forced to place the receiver some place else, where it can breathe free air up top...

Here is a picture of my TV stand (on the bottom left is where the amp will be, that's an old picture with an old Marantz SR-5003 receiver I used to own before my Pioneer Elite SC-37 and before the incoming Onkyo unit...)

There is 8.5" between the bottom shelf (where the receiver will be) and the middle shelf where my center channel speaker is.

So the Onkyo unit is 7.81" high, which leaves about 0.69" clearance on top.

Originally Posted by CobraPA

I've mailed them just now. I plan on calling them tonight as well. I am also trying to get one of their HD Radio docks (UP-HT1) to work and it seems to have similar issues to the network and usb. Plugged in to the universal connector and it seems to not be visible at all. Selecting PORT shows 'not compatible' (or something similar) and then switches to 'All channel stereo'. But the '>' seems to do nothing, as do the other controls mentioned in the manual related to controlling the HD radio box. Maybe the unit is dead, or maybe the dock connector isn't enabling like the net/usb weren't. I don't know yet.

Originally Posted by Furmantation

Yes, hooked up via HDMI. Tried several cables. I've tried two different Blu-Ray players (a Samsung and an LG). Neither worked except if set to PCM. Also tested both players on a different Onkyo (508 I believe) and TRUEHD and DTS-HD worked great. It almost seems as if the 5008 I have doesn't understand the incoming signal . . .

Originally Posted by Furmantation

Just had the pleasure of speaking with Onkyo Customer Support. It's clear why everybody complains about their customer service: just plain awful. The rep on the phone (Mark) says that he's made the 5008 work with TRUEHD and DTS-HD, although for the life of me I couldn't get him to get out of his chair and try it in the lab. I've ordered a replacement unit, let's hope it helps.

Originally Posted by Furmantation

Received the new unit, and DTS-HD appears to be working! Haven't tested TRUEHD yet. Running the firmware update now, it will be interesting to see if things continue to work following. VSP Writing 39% . . .

Originally Posted by davidhoenig

Anyone here with a Popcorn Hour C-200 that can verify if DD TrueHD and DTS-MA work with the Onkyo via bitstream?

I'm not getting any sound for HD codecs, but lossy ones work fine.

Originally Posted by Furmantation

When no sound is heard, what does your Onkyo display as the audio input and output (can be found by pushing the home button)?

Originally Posted by davidhoenig

Once the movie starts, the Onkyo switches to "All Channel Stereo" mode and there is no sound. Info reports the audio as "Unknown".

Originally Posted by CobraPA

While on the phone with Onkyo a couple days ago, talking about the network not enabling problem, the rep keep suggesting I disable DHCP.

Of course, the network doesn't work, but I bet with a static IP it would be ok, so there's a workaround. And if you then turn on DHCP again, the network comes up fine...

Originally Posted by CobraPA

I ran the Audyssey setup yesterday with a 5.1 setup. I only used 3 points of measurement and it balanced my room really well, even though the room is not acoustically clean (couches and speakers behind objects.) I was pretty impressed for a first run.

Originally Posted by CBdicX

After again spending hours of trying and resetting the router i have a working Network connection, WITH OUT Network Control active

This is my working setup:

[b]1) disable DCHP

Originally Posted by Eldiablos

So how do you 5008 owners like your Onkyo? I have my decision down to that one and the Denon 4311. You mention build quality in that thread and some people get their panties in a bunch.

Originally Posted by Eldiablos

So how do you 5008 owners like your Onkyo? I have my decision down to that one and the Denon 4311. You mention build quality in that thread and some people get their panties in a bunch.

Originally Posted by bakerwi

Eldiablos,

I frequent the 4311 thread also and I liked your comment about not calling someone's wife or girlfriend ugly.

I personally believe that all the AVRs in the $1,500 to $2,500 (MSRP) are comparable in build quality depending on how each perspective buyer defines build quality.

I had the TX-NR5008, Yamaha RX-A3000 and the Pioneer SC-37 on my short list in addition to the Denon, but ruled out the Yamaha (prefer Audyssey) and Pioneer (not 9.1 or better) and have been teetering about the Onkyo (excessive heat). I know the heat may not be an issue long term, but the amount of heat this unit puts out can’t be good for the internals, so the Denon has a slight leg up at this time.

I was hoping for more comments from owners in particular 5008 owners, but there seems to be very few of either. I wonder if the early problem (though fixed) with MultEQ XT32 scared off perspective customers. I know it got my attention.


Willie

Originally Posted by CobraPA

I'm expecting a firmware update from Onkyo for this problem, as they say they are working on it. That's interesting that disabling DHCP makes it work. I've been running with network control enabled for now (plus, then I can fire up the beta iPad app and control the Onkyo remotely. )

Originally Posted by Eldiablos

LOL thank you. But that is what that thread is starting to feel like. You point out one negative about the receiver and people start behaving like you have insulted the honor of their receiver. I just come from the school of thought that if you put down 2k on a receiver it shouldn't be cheap feeling. I want features and decent construction. I'm greedy like that. I don't think anyone should be crucified for pointing out some negatives about a product as long as it is in a constructive way. But at the end of the day, it comes down to what a person wants from a receiver. Some people are just putting someone down because they feel red is their favorite color when others think blue is. I think we can respect people's different opinions without having to attack them.

Fact is for the 4311 to make it's price point it had to sacrifice something. After looking at a comparison with the 4810 they sacrificed, chassis, speaker posts and power supply. Now will this make a difference? It all depends on what you are going to use the receiver for? If you use it as a preamp it rocks and an easy buy, but if you plan on running 9 speakers off of the receiver alone, it probably will strain. Denon has also had a rep for bad network cards.

The flip side is the Onkyo 5008. This mother is built the way you would expect for $2000. It's a tank and 17lb heavier. My guess is most of the weight is in the power supply. But comes the next issue. All those power supplies mean heat. Heat is bad for components. I have been reading the 5007 owner thread as I feel the 5008 is the 5007 just with HDMI 1.4. The 5007 has had some issues with HDMI boards. Don't know why maybe the heat is causing the issue but the receiver gets great performance reviews on professional tests of it's ability. I do however, want a receiver that lasts longer than 6 months. I have read that Onkyo customer service is really bad on several different forums.

You and I seem to be in the same boat. We are not afraid to question shortcomings of any receiver because we don't want to pay $2000 and not feel satisfied. I just hope some owners of the 5008 can give you and I some feedback so we can decide

Originally Posted by bakerwi

Eldiablos,

I frequent the 4311 thread also and I liked your comment about not calling someone's wife or girlfriend ugly.

I personally believe that all the AVRs in the $1,500 to $2,500 (MSRP) are comparable in build quality depending on how each perspective buyer defines build quality.

I had the TX-NR5008, Yamaha RX-A3000 and the Pioneer SC-37 on my short list in addition to the Denon, but ruled out the Yamaha (prefer Audyssey) and Pioneer (not 9.1 or better) and have been teetering about the Onkyo (excessive heat). I know the heat may not be an issue long term, but the amount of heat this unit puts out can't be good for the internals, so the Denon has a slight leg up at this time.

I was hoping for more comments from owners in particular 5008 owners, but there seems to be very few of either. I wonder if the early problem (though fixed) with MultEQ XT32 scared off perspective customers. I know it got my attention.


Willie