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post #8041 of 8625
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Originally Posted by chs4000 View Post

Very unfortunate. Surely there must be some alternative.

I thought I had read about some people fixing it themselves with the right connectors/cables.
post #8042 of 8625
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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post

well of coarse it was a UN-authorize seller. soooooo the prospect that a couple of cables and a board or 3 that may be needing to be replaced. the price out of pocket, could be just the same to invest in a newer version of something.....

I'm not sure how you can be upset with Onkyo for refusing warranty coverage on a product you bought from an unauthorized dealer. It's extremely common for CE companies to only provide warranty coverage on authorized purchases. Quite frankly I'm pretty sure that was a risk you knew about and accepted when you bought your Onkyo from "Joe's Fish, Chips, and Stereos" -- you gambled and lost.
post #8043 of 8625
You don't know that.

Personally, I find this whole authorized dealer business to be rather unseemly on the part of the manufacturers.
post #8044 of 8625
My 5009 is too Bright for my setup .... Any ideas ? Just upgraded from an SR-875 it was amazing why is it such a different sound ? Please help thx
post #8045 of 8625
Audyssey calibration, do it. Also, don't use THX listening modes as they will be bright.
post #8046 of 8625
I did that and my EQing is better, but really no THX mode ?
post #8047 of 8625
Yes, stick to non-THX listening modes. Audyssey uses a roll off in the high frequencies that THX modes override.
post #8048 of 8625
Personally I do understand to a point about authorized and un.. But it seems that it is a massive defective issue that affects not only one line but Integra, an not just one model. Now they should step up.
post #8049 of 8625
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Originally Posted by chs4000 View Post

Yes, stick to non-THX listening modes. Audyssey uses a roll off in the high frequencies that THX modes override.

That's because THX has it's own thing to roll off the highs called RE-EQ. Using any THX mode needs the use of the flat curve in order not to have the double roll off of the highs.
post #8050 of 8625
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

I'm not sure how you can be upset with Onkyo for refusing warranty coverage on a product you bought from an unauthorized dealer. It's extremely common for CE companies to only provide warranty coverage on authorized purchases. Quite frankly I'm pretty sure that was a risk you knew about and accepted when you bought your Onkyo from "Joe's Fish, Chips, and Stereos" -- you gambled and lost.

The whole unauthorized dealer scenario has never made sense to me. Are the units from an unauthorized dealer built in a different factory! Somebody in the Onkyo distribution channel is selling to these distributors and/or merchants. Why should the consumer be penalized. The problems (acknowledged by Onkyo) owners are experiencing affects an entire line of AVRs regardless of where purchased.

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Originally Posted by chs4000 View Post

You don't know that.

Personally, I find this whole authorized dealer business to be rather unseemly on the part of the manufacturers.

+1
post #8051 of 8625
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

The whole unauthorized dealer scenario has never made sense to me. Are the units from an unauthorized dealer built in a different factory! Somebody in the Onkyo distribution channel is selling to these distributors and/or merchants. Why should the consumer be penalized. The problems (acknowledged by Onkyo) owners are experiencing affects an entire line of AVRs regardless of where purchased.

Whether or not you agree with the companies' policies regarding unauthorized dealers and warranty coverage is beside the point. The fact remains that those policies are pretty widely known. If you buy a product from an unauthorized dealer, you go into that purchase knowing full-well that you're on your own if the product fails.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but manufacturers have these authorized dealer policies to protect themselves from counterfeit and grey-market items that may have been modified somewhere in the supply chain such that they no longer meet factory specifications. If I got my TX-NR5008 from "Frank's House of Beef and Stereos" how's Onkyo to know whether that receiver is in the same configuration as it was when it left the factory? The authorized dealer network provides manufacturers reasonable assurances that equipment has been untampered and/or unmodified and meets factory specs up to and after the point of sale.

Now, in this particular instance, I'd expect most reputable companies to make an exception because the particular failure mode is widely known and manufacturer-acknowledged. But they're under no obligation to do so since the product was bought from an unauthorized dealer and the purchaser assumed the risk of premature failure when making said purchase.

Again, if your receiver craps out and Onkyo refuses to help you, you can be pissed off all you want but you really have no one to blame but yourself.

Heck, I bought my TX-NR5008 from Newegg (an authorized dealer) and paid $1600 shipped for it. I doubt that even unauthorized dealers had prices that low!
post #8052 of 8625
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Whether or not you agree with the companies' policies regarding unauthorized dealers and warranty coverage is beside the point. The fact remains that those policies are pretty widely known. If you buy a product from an unauthorized dealer, you go into that purchase knowing full-well that you're on your own if the product fails.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but manufacturers have these authorized dealer policies to protect themselves from counterfeit and grey-market items that may have been modified somewhere in the supply chain such that they no longer meet factory specifications. If I got my TX-NR5008 from "Frank's House of Beef and Stereos" how's Onkyo to know whether that receiver is in the same configuration as it was when it left the factory? The authorized dealer network provides manufacturers reasonable assurances that equipment has been untampered and/or unmodified and meets factory specs up to and after the point of sale.

Now, in this particular instance, I'd expect most reputable companies to make an exception because the particular failure mode is widely known and manufacturer-acknowledged. But they're under no obligation to do so since the product was bought from an unauthorized dealer and the purchaser assumed the risk of premature failure when making said purchase.

Again, if your receiver craps out and Onkyo refuses to help you, you can be pissed off all you want but you really have no one to blame but yourself.

Heck, I bought my TX-NR5008 from Newegg (an authorized dealer) and paid $1600 shipped for it. I doubt that even unauthorized dealers had prices that low!

5008 Too! $1675.oo Vann's by way of Amazon .. I just got the paper work from both Vann's & Amazon to cover my Butt when I call about getting mine fixed ..
post #8053 of 8625
What is the best solution to connect dedicated Hi-Fi amp (for example Krell S-300i ) with my 3008 i've mean that when i wanna listen music i wanna use Krell and for movies Onkyo but i dont wanna change speakers cables or something simillar...is there some other option like connecting cd player Krell and from Krell to CD in or different input on back of onkyo and listen in direct mode ??
post #8054 of 8625
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Originally Posted by maxkolonko123 View Post

What is the best solution to connect dedicated Hi-Fi amp (for example Krell S-300i ) with my 3008 i've mean that when i wanna listen music i wanna use Krell and for movies Onkyo but i dont wanna change speakers cables or something simillar...is there some other option like connecting cd player Krell and from Krell to CD in or different input on back of onkyo and listen in direct mode ??

Pardon my ignorance, but why can't you just keep using the Krell for movies? Doesn't that specific Krell have a home theater mode?
post #8055 of 8625
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Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

Pardon my ignorance, but why can't you just keep using the Krell for movies? Doesn't that specific Krell have a home theater mode?

Don't think so... and like i said this was an example...im talking generally what is the solution cause i dont have this Krell ( would be nice to have LOL )
post #8056 of 8625
Your request makes no sense... if you are looking for the better performance of an external amp for your front 2 channels for music, then by all means hook it up for your front left and right speakers and run it in Pure Audio mode... Coincidentally, you will also have the added bonus of better performance for movies and free up a load from your 3008 in the process....a win/win in my book!

Oops, I see now that your example is an integrated amp. I wouldn't even mess with that. Just keep it simple and get a high quality 2 channel amp only and call it good.
post #8057 of 8625
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Again, if your receiver craps out and Onkyo refuses to help you, you can be pissed off all you want but you really have no one to blame but yourself.

There is a difference between crapping out and a failure affecting an entire model year regardless where purchased.
post #8058 of 8625
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Your request makes no sense... if you are looking for the better performance of an external amp for your front 2 channels for music, then by all means hook it up for your front left and right speakers and run it in Pure Audio mode... Coincidentally, you will also have the added bonus of better performance for movies and free up a load from your 3008 in the process....a win/win in my book!

Oops, I see now that your example is an integrated amp. I wouldn't even mess with that. Just keep it simple and get a high quality 2 channel amp only and call it good.

Forget to say that i have XPA-3 and UPA-2
post #8059 of 8625
How long did repair take for you all?

I sent the 3008 to a repair center in New York 4 weeks ago, still haven't gotten it back. I'm afraid to call Onkyo for status because the last two times I called, I got the same guy both times; he was rude, abrupt, and worst of all, clueless (he didn't even know what a repair order number and RMA are).
post #8060 of 8625
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Originally Posted by GalvatronType_R View Post

How long did repair take for you all?

I sent the 3008 to a repair center in New York 4 weeks ago, still haven't gotten it back. I'm afraid to call Onkyo for status because the last two times I called, I got the same guy both times; he was rude, abrupt, and worst of all, clueless (he didn't even know what a repair order number and RMA are).

Once you have sent in your receiver for repair, you need to call the repair center directly for updates, not Onkyo. Onkyo really has nothing to do with it except for reimbursing the repair center when your warranty work is done. There should have been communication with the repair center when they received it to go over what work needs to be done. They also should have provided some sort of timeframe for it to be completed and whether parts needed to be ordered or not....

You need to call that repair center right away to find out what your status is. Some repair centers are much better than others in regards to the communication, obviously..
post #8061 of 8625
Is there a consolidated list of common problems with the xx08 line?

I've been seeing many 3008 units on ebay sold with the same problem...

"Unit shuts down after 30 seconds." ... what causes this?

I know it will not be under warranty but if is it easily fixable I might buy one.

thx!
post #8062 of 8625
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Originally Posted by Livin View Post

Is there a consolidated list of common problems with the xx08 line?

I've been seeing many 3008 units on ebay sold with the same problem...

"Unit shuts down after 30 seconds." ... what causes this?

I know it will not be under warranty but if is it easily fixable I might buy one.

thx!

it's a coating( sorta like a soldering flux) on the PCB's that was not removed before they assembled the units . the ribbon cable needs to be changed & the connectors need to be cleaned &/or replaced . It can be done @ home .. here one guys way he fixed his unit ..

http://www.moparhowto.com/ht-howtos/...kyo-nr708.html

I wouldn't pay much for any of these units , but if you could get one REALLY cheap , it might be worth trying this out .. it's Only the 008 line that this is present on ..
post #8063 of 8625
Is there any way to get Audyssey flat while just outputting stereo music? When on the NET input playing Pandora's 128kbps mp3 stream, sending any audio to the surround speakers is just a bad idea, yet all the THX listening modes (which use Audyssey flat) insist on doing this.

I just want Stereo output with Audyssey flat. Is Denon the only company who can do this?
post #8064 of 8625
Anyone using a external power amp with there 5008/3008 and need a 12 v trigger to power on the amp? If yes, how do you do this when the only 12 v trigger is for the Zone 2/3?
post #8065 of 8625
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Originally Posted by PSchweitzer View Post

Anyone using a external power amp with there 5008/3008 and need a 12 v trigger to power on the amp? If yes, how do you do this when the only 12 v trigger is for the Zone 2/3?
set zone 3 to source & then use the remote zone green button to then the start button .. starts my Emo's do the reverse to turn off . you set the zone source on the front panel inputs by holding down the zone button & the display will toggle between choices
post #8066 of 8625
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

set zone 3 to source & then use the remote zone green button to then the start button .. starts my Emo's do the reverse to turn off . you set the zone source on the front panel inputs by holding down the zone button & the display will toggle between choices

So then each time you power On or Off the 5008 you have to do these extra steps on the remote to also power On or Off Zone 3 just for the trigger? I'm looking for a simple, I turn the receiver off and and it does the trigger.
post #8067 of 8625
How about a smart power strip? I believe this is the one I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Energy-Saving-Autoswitching-Technology/dp/B000P1QJXQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1340042257&sr=8-3&keywords=smart+power+strip

You plug your receiver into the blue socket, your amplifier into the green sockets, and when your receiver is off (or in stand-by), the green ports won't be provided with any power at all.
post #8068 of 8625
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Originally Posted by PSchweitzer View Post

So then each time you power On or Off the 5008 you have to do these extra steps on the remote to also power On or Off Zone 3 just for the trigger? I'm looking for a simple, I turn the receiver off and and it does the trigger.
it's a 2 step procedure, 1st the zone on & then the AVR power on ,same with shut down . No other way to do it . It's a not issue with my set-up, I got used to this doing very quickly.
You can go with a power strip as chs4000 has stated ,but IRRC with my Emo's they say not to use a power surge protector/conditioner with Emotiva amps .
post #8069 of 8625
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Originally Posted by PSchweitzer View Post

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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

set zone 3 to source & then use the remote zone green button to then the start button .. starts my Emo's do the reverse to turn off . you set the zone source on the front panel inputs by holding down the zone button & the display will toggle between choices

So then each time you power On or Off the 5008 you have to do these extra steps on the remote to also power On or Off Zone 3 just for the trigger? I'm looking for a simple, I turn the receiver off and and it does the triggeru.
As FS mentioned, it's only 2 extra button presses, just remember that the Zone triggers should be last on, first off. IIRC, I couldn't turn the Zone trigger (and hence, the amps) off if I turned the avr off first.

If you REALLY want a one button solution, you can get a programmable remote like the Harmony offerings. Program a macro that does the entire sequence, then you can hit just one button to turn everything in your setup on or off.


Max
post #8070 of 8625
+1 Ya, there is a post on this thread with simple instructions to program a Harmony remote to automatically turn on either zone 2 or 3 just for this purpose. Works great!
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