Marantz SR5005 / Marantz SR6005 HDMI V1.4 ABT AV Receiver Owners' Thread - Page 5

HDMI TV changing channels sometimes will drop the sound. Switching back and
forth will bring back the sound, but not always! It seems it changes mode sometimes.
When playing music off of the cable it will drop the sound, but not
often, just a couple times. But the dropping of sound when changing channels
happens 6-7 times a day.

has anybody compared the 5005 with the 6005? , do they sound the same???

I auditioned the vsx-32 and wasn't impressed with the sound quality. Definitely didn't have any warmth to it. In fact, I found it rather thin.

Hey guys, unless I missed it, this looks like the owner's thread. I just got my 6005 from FedEx this morning to replace my Onkyo 702 (needed HDMI, never have been truly happy with the sound). First impression from Onkyo to Marantz, no calibration/anything other than adjusting speaker size and crossover- ...sounded pretty damn similar, definitely was thinking I overpaid for the name vs going with another Onkyo. Front soundstage did sound wider though; swore I had my center on when I was just in stereo. Not bad, but was kinda bummed it wasn't a bigger difference.

After running Audyssey it's a whoooole 'nother story - I'm still listening to music, but I watched the NASA intro on the old DVE disc immediately before/after running the calibration. All I can say is holy crap! It's early yet, but wow. Just with the music, my Athena F2.2's are FINALLY giving me the "full" sound I never felt I could get out of my Onkyo. I am completely stumped as to the sounds coming out of my system WITHOUT my sub on right now (mdax - mid, Audyssey all on, PLII music + stereo modes). Like I said, it's early and I haven't played around with much of anything yet - then again, this is the best my speakers have ever sounded and I probably won't touch it for music. I'll have to see how it sounds with movies next and see how it sounds when my sub lights up there. I'm not sure how much of this is the Marantz and how much of it is the Audyssey (never experienced it before - I am now a believer!) Either way, I have never been happier with how music has sounded on my system.

Marantz 6005
Athena F2.2 - fronts
Athena C1.2 - center
Athena F1.1 - surrounds
Mirage S12 - sub

I am off to hook up my PS3 and watch my first ever Blu Ray w/ lossless sound!

ps - for anyone that has it, the Tron soundtrack by Daft Punk - 7 - Rinzler + 8 - The Game has Changed = !!!

edit: after watching Iron Man 2 and Despicable Me, I'm VERY happy. This is probably the clearest voices have sounded (no "what did he say?'s" for about the first time ever) and the sound is just so much more... full. Again, I don't know how much is the Marantz and how much is simply adding Audyssey, but I don't really care - I'm happy The neighbors? probably not so much...

Yes they do. Please see post #98.

Any more reports of the "purple hue" on the 5005? I was leaning towards a 5005, but this scares me a bit.

Am I correct in thinking that the 5005 has only one subwoofer pre out and the 6005 has two? Does this make the 5005 a 7.1 and the 6005 a 7.2 system.

In a two sub woofer set up do the subs play the same things all the time or are they more of a stereo type set up.

The 6005 has two sub outputs. The 5005 has one.

I just set up the SR5005 with my system. Haven't noticed the purple hue... but have come across another rather unpleasant problem:

Nearly every time I skip forward or backwards on recorded TV (either by FF'ing or using the skip ahead 30 seconds button), I get an ungodly POP from my speakers.

I have it hooked up via HDMI to my PC, which is running Windows Media Center, and I've got the SR5005 hooked up to PSB Imagine towers (I've switched those out with old Boston Acoustics and different wires to the same effect) and to a Panasonic plasma via HDMI out. It doesn't happen when playing from other sources other than WMC. It seems that the SR5005 does it's own decoding with WMC and lets my PC do it for other sources, but can't really confirm that. I'm waiting to hear back from a Marantz representative regarding the issue... but if anyone has any insight, I would love to hear from them!

Update: The Marantz rep suggested it was a problem with my setup and for whatever reason, the FF/skip function was sending extra voltage down the HDMI cable and overloading the SR5005 processor. He suggested a toslink or digital coaxial cables might solve the problem. Understand those can be expensive... anyone else experiencing a similar issue and already found a solution?

Update 2: fiber optic cables do not solve the problem.

...also, my unit runs very hot. I've got plenty of room around it, but still quite toasty.

- they will play the same things all the time...

- you can use a y-cable from the sub pre-out on the 5005 and accomplish the same thing as the 2 pre-outs on the 6005...

Huge update: Problem solved! (**I think**) So I've been doing tons of reading, talking to the retailer, talking to the Marantz rep, and they're all telling me it's a problem with my set up. That's BS. But to be fair, I don't think this is a problem with Marantz, per se. It appears certain combinations of devices create this "POP" that seems to be associated with an overload that occurs when the on-board digital decoding processor tries to sync the audio when either skipping or changing audio.

I don't know all the details of why this fixed it, but all I did was change my PC settings to prevent Marantz from taking control of the decoding process (under the config options in control panel for the Marantz receiver). Maybe I am losing out on some functionality by doing this, but it hasn't been anything noticeable so far. Anyway... judging by the forums I've come across, people have been blaming various devices for the past two years for this problem... Doesn't seem like anyone on this forum has had the problem, but thought I'd share just in case.

Can anyone report whether the 5005/6005 disables Audyssey EQ when bitstreaming HD sources. It's my understanding the 5004/6004 receivers did this.

The Marantz SR5005/6005 do not have this issue. Audyssey EQ remains active during HD playback (unless you choose to turn it off).

Thanks for the info re: Audyssey. I actually picked up an SR6005 this morning. They're on sale at BB if anyone is interested (at least in Tampa). A couple observations: I ran Audyssey and I've been listening to music and watching Blu Rays all day. The sound is fantastic. I've come to expect pretty small increases in SQ with equipment upgrades. I'm coming from an Onkyo SR707, and the difference is significant. I also previously had a Rotel 1056, a Pioneer Elite (43tx I believe) and a Denon and Yamaha many years ago. This is by far the best my system has sounded. Monitor Audio GR20's and a 5 channel B&K amp btw. Great stereo imaging, and there's just a lot more presence or heft to the sound. I'm really happy. I'm also ecstatic with the center channel output. It seems I've been fighting muddled and boxy sounds from my center forever. I always had to turn up the center output by a couple db's to hear it. With the Marantz the center is clear and crisp and finally sounds the way I want it. This isn't an Audyssey issue, as my old Onkyo has the same version on Audyssey.

However, there are a couple things I wish I had known before buying. Given the fantastic SQ, these wouldn't be deal killers, but should be noted nonetheless and might be a reason to consider a 7005.
- I store most of my music in FLAC on a large (1tb) external hard drive. The Marantz doesn't recognize it. It says "connection failure."
- As far as I can tell, the 6005 doesn't recognize FLAC via USB. I put a few FLAC and MP3 files on a thumb drive to see if it worked. It picked up the MP3's fine, but the FLAC's weren't there. I checked the manuals for the 6005 and 7005. The 7005 says it decodes FLAC, the 6005 doesn't list FLAC on the file types under USB. This is a big bummer, but I have an HTPC attached via HDMI, so all's not lost. I'm not sure it would make any difference SQ wise anyway.
- You can't watch an HDMI video source and listen to another source at the same time. I wanted to watch football on tv today while listening to the Bucs game on the radio (hello blackouts). Not possible. I think you can watch a non-HDMI source and listen to a different non-HDMI source at the same time. There's a video select button, but the manual says it doesn't work with HDMI. I think this may be a limitation of HDMI, not the Marantz. My Onkyo couldn't do it either.

All told, I'm very happy. I thought I should put in my 2 cents since I found these forums very helpful in choosing the Marantz.

I cant decide between the 5005 and 6005.

Is the 6005 worth $200 more?

It has the additional sub out but that can be overcome eaisly with a Y connetor.
Its GUI sounds like it has upgraded overlaying compared to the 5005
Small LCD on its remote (who cares)
Sounds like there may be a issue with the purple hue on the 5005s

It sounds to me like the $200 dollars dosnt get you a hole lot. Please correct me if Im wrong or if Im just missing something.

i have the sr5005. i have no purple hue issue. i have no audio pops. i freaking LOVE this receiver.

the only thing that matters to me, that is probably worth $50 to me (not $200) is that there is NO video overly on the sr5005. it's annoying when dealing with audio volumes as my receiver is hidden.

if you don't hide your receiver, then the overlay isn't needed, especially for $200

The 6005 has a better video chip, at least spec wise. Here's a chart with the 2 respective chips. 5005 has the 1030 and 6005 has the 2015. I didn't compare the 2 so I have no idea how much real world difference there actually is. The 6005 overlay is pretty nice, and the input selector on the 6005 actually brings up the overlay and lets you click over to the input you want, which I kind of like. However, the difference is more than $200 if you consider that a4l has 5005 refurbs in stock. Not sure it's worth it.

I've had the 5005 for about two months now and have been very pleased with it. The sound is fantastic and there's no purple tinge that I've noticed. My speakers are Totem Acoustic Tribe I's.

As mentioned above, there is no overlay over HDMI, so that's something to take into account if you have the AVR hidden. Mine is in a closed cabinet, but I don't mind the lack of overlay.

I want to make sure I understand the overlay issue. Is the only problem that a volume bar dosnt come onto the screen when changing the volume?

can you comment on sale price from bb?

i just ordered a 5005 from onecall. hope to receive it on thursday (fingers crossed!). what are the exact circumstances in which you received this pop? i'd like to see if i can reproduce it...

- What version of WMC? 7 or earlier?
- What source for the movie? Blu-ray? DVD? x264 rip?
- What sound format in the movie? DTS HD? Dolby True HD? DTS? DD5.1?
- Which card is passing the HDMI audio to the Marantz? Nvidia? ATI? dedicated sound card w/HDMI out?
- What specific config settings did you change?

PM sent on BB. I think the overlay difference is the 5005 setup screens, etc are on a discreet screen where on the 6005 it overlays over whatever is on the screen at the time. I could be wrong as I haven't seen the 5005.

Right - you can't see the volume level on the screen. Also, for example, you can't see which surround mode you're using as you cycle through them with the remote. (You can, of course, see this on the sr5005's display. )

Hello
I'd like to buy one of this receiver, but I have a question about the pre outs.
I'd like to keep my 2 mono amps that I would connect on Front Left and
Front Right pre outs, and use at the same time the amps of the receiver for the other channels (center and surround) Is it possible ? When I read the manual, at the page with the amp assign option, it does not seem very obvious to me (I don't know much about AV amps anyway) It seems that if I use an external amp on FL and FR, the entire device turns to preamp only with no possibility to
use the internal amps for the other channels... Am I right or did I miss something.
Thank you for your answers.

What you are proposing will work fine. I have 5 channels connected to an external amp and use the internal amp for my surround backs. It works fine. I also tried plugging the front 2 channels into the Marantz and the center and surrounds into the external (to test out the Marantz internal amps) and it worked fine too. I think the pre-outs and the internal amps are both "active" all the time.

Need some help / info , I installed a new SR-5005 for a buddy , I'm using HDMI cables and a Sony BDP-270 blu ray player , it sounds great , But I can not get it to display DTS master aduio or Dolby true HD, It keeps going to Multi channel for the surround, what am I doing wrong here, Now mind you I use a Marantz Sr-7002 and hve no problems with it, & I'm not new to this, But whatam I missing? any help or info , I would be greatful.. I am using the manual eq setting also. LMK thanks

does the set up manual from outlaw for the 5005 also apply to the 6005? Or is the set up diffrent enough to make it not relevent?

Also does any one know how often these units are avaliable at acessories 4 less? I plan on picking up either a 5005 or a 6005 from them as soon as they are in stock as this is what I can afford compared to the price of new.

Hope thats not a mistake but it looks like Marantz factory rebuilds are tested and seem solid enough.

They have 6003's in stock right now, does anyone think I should just go for that or wait for the newer #005's?

thanks

They had the 5005 in stock for most of December. I've never seen the 6005 in stock. I would hold out for the ***5 b/c it applies audyssey settings to HD audio sources. The older models don't do this.
In response to the question above re: problems getting hi-def sound, it's probably a problem with they way your blu-ray is outputting sound. I have the same problem if I set my HTPC for blu-ray sound (set to "speakers") and try to play a DVD with DD. It only gives me options for stereo or multi-channel. Try playing with the audio output settings on the BR player.

I am going to be getting a 5005/ 6005 soon and I want to make sure I will hook it up with out trouble.
I have cable but no cable box to run it through, currently I run the cable from the wall to the television, then sound from the television to my current reciever via RCA lines. The television is HDMI compatiable.

What will be the best way to run cable television?

Is it coax cable from the wall to the television then HDMI from the TV to the Marantz?
Or is there a way to get the coax to run from the wall through the reciever?

Sorry for the Newbie question, Im just trying to get this sorted out ahead of time.