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post #691 of 763
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Note that using the Audyssey mic with the usual AVR setup process should provide very accurate results.

Good point. In fact, I probably should have answered the question differently:

Use the Audyssey mic and avr setup process.

Then use the WOW disc and a SPL meter to validate it, if you feel the need. Note that you won't get a 100% match since different locations will impact each measurement a bit. What you want to look for is that you are in the same ballpark.

Then continue on with my original answer...
post #692 of 763
Again .. no reason to go to that extra effort as the Audyssey mic provides quite accurate results. smile.gif
post #693 of 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Again .. no reason to go to that extra effort as the Audyssey mic provides quite accurate results. smile.gif

Agreed. But for the OCD among us (myself included) it's nice to be able to "double check", if for no other reason than one might find that a setting in the blu-ray player is wrong (downmixing or something) by playing back test tones from a disc and measuring the results, as well.
post #694 of 763
Hey all,

I've had my refurb SR6005 for about 2 months now. It seems my right channel has stopped functioning.

I plugged in my headphones last night and heard nothing out of the right side. Tried a different pair, same issue. Played audio out of the speakers (I'm using a 7.1 setup), nothing out of the front right speaker. Ran test tone, heard the tone on all speakers except front right.

What I'm wondering is, is this something that could be fixed by resetting the microprocessor? That perhaps the unit has lost configuration or forgotten that it's supposed to output on the right channel? Or is it likely a hardware problem that will need servicing?

Thanks in advance for any help.
post #695 of 763
First try a soft reset by simply unplugging the AVR for about 10 minutes and if still no joy, then try the microprocessor reset (p. 92 OM). If still no joy, try connecting the FR speaker wires to the "Front B/R" speaker posts instead and set the front speakers to A+B (p. 23 OM).
post #696 of 763
Awesome, glad to hear there is some troubleshooting I can try. Thanks!

Last night I gave the soft reset a go. Plugged it in after about 15 min, tested it, and still no sound out of the front right. It was late, so I decided to head to bed. This morning I turned it on and the front right had sound again! Not exactly sure why it didn't work immediately, but now it's at least operating again!

Some further questions:
  1. Is this a common problem or a random fluke?
  2. The AVR came with a 1 year warranty, but the nearest repair shop is an hour away. Is it ok to keep using these solutions as needed as long as it doesn't become bothersome, or should I eventually get it looked at by a repair tech?
  3. Is there anything I would have done to cause this, like some procedure or operational step, that I could avoid to keep this from re-occurring?

Thanks.
post #697 of 763
1. No, not common.
2. If you have to resort to the soft reset or even a microprocessor reset more than a few more times, I'd have it looked at by the repair shop.
3. Not likely, no.
post #698 of 763
I am setup Audyssey on the 6005 for the first time so I hope to get some advice on some issues:

1) After the auto setup, it determins the following:

Front: Large, full bandwith, crossover is disabled
Center: small, crossover=40hz
Surr: small, crossover=80hz

What does the front do? Does it mean it won't send low freq front signals to sub? My front is decent speakers but I still want to cross over some low freq signals to the sub. If I manally change the front to small, and set crossover to 40hz, will it ruin the Audyssey setup at all?


2) I want to use this receiver for both multi-channel movie and 2 channel CD music. In 2 channel mode, I find the direct or pure direct to be best quality. However, in these 2 modes the sub is not working. The manual suggests only if the sub is set to LFE+Main. However this will probably ruin the multi-channel Audyssey setup and I don't want to change settings each time when I listen to music or watch movie.

Is there any workaround? Thanks.
post #699 of 763
1. Adjusting the speaker settings will not impact the Audyssey EQ. Reset the FL/FR speakers to SMALL and raise the crossover for them and the center up to 80Hz.
2. Using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT will disable Audyssey and bass management (which is why the sub is not active with only 2.0 audio) and using either is therefore not recommended. If you still choose to use them, you would need to set the sub to LFE+Main in order to pass the low freq bass to the sub with 2.0 audio.

Please review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig for more information.
post #700 of 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

2. Using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT will disable Audyssey and bass management (which is why the sub is not active with only 2.0 audio) and using either is therefore not recommended.

That's too bad. The Audyssey enabled stereo mode is not as good as pure direct. It sounds more harsh and has a higher noise floor.

When you set LFE+Mains, does it send all signals to fronts, and all signals to sub? By disabling bass management, does it mean even the crossover setting is disabled?
post #701 of 763
The LFE and LFE+Main settings are sub settings and therefore only apply to the sub. The LFE+Main setting only applies when the FL/FR speakers are set to LARGE and will pass those frequencies below the FL/FR crossovers to the sub so both the FL/FR speakers and the sub play the same lower frequencies (aka "double bass"). When bass management is disabled it means nothing goes to the sub except the LFE (0.1 in DD/DTS 5.1) channel which is designated to only go to the sub.
post #702 of 763
Let's say I set front to small, sub to LFE+Main, and crossover to 80hz which is what you suggested.

In normal modes, front signals above 80hz will be sent to front speakers, front signals below 80hz and all LFE signal will be sent to sub.

In 2 channel direct modes, front signals above 80hz will be sent to front speakers, front signals below 80hz will be sent to sub. There is no LFE to worry about.

Is my understanding right? This setup should be the best compromise.
Edited by hotjt133 - 5/15/13 at 3:52pm
post #703 of 763
Another thought is the phase issue.

In direct modes, the phase adjustment is disabled. So both front speakers and the sub receives the signals with the same phase. This might cause slight out of phase between fronts and sub since they are not in the same distance. In audyssey setup each channel's phase is adjusted to match their distances.

I'm thinking to do the following:
First, in direct modes, manually adjust the phase control on the sub to obtain the highest output (with a mic and REW).
Then in normal modes, manually adjust the audyssey setting and change the distance of the sub to match the fronts.

Am I too clinical? In my setup the distance difference between fronts and sub is just 50cm. So even without adjusting the phase it probably still be ok?
post #704 of 763
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Originally Posted by hotjt133 View Post

Let's say I set front to small, sub to LFE+Main, and crossover to 80hz which is what you suggested.

In normal modes, front signals above 80hz will be sent to front speakers, front signals below 80hz and all LFE signal will be sent to sub.

In 2 channel direct modes, front signals above 80hz will be sent to front speakers, front signals below 80hz will be sent to sub. There is no LFE to worry about.

Is my understanding right? This setup should be the best compromise.

In DIRECT mode, the front speakers get set to LARGE and LFE+Main will pass the low frequencies below the crossover to the sub.
post #705 of 763

I've been a satisfied 6005 owner for a few years.  I have 2 issues that I would like to sort out.

1) The range of the remote is only about 12 feet.  I have a seating area that is about 16 feet away  The unit is in the corner on an open shelf.  The remote doesn't work at that range.  All the other components do work at 16 feet. What is the best way to extend the range of the remote?

Can I get away with a single extender plugged into the back flasher in jack? 

http://www.amazon.com/C2G-Cables-40432-Infrared-Emitter/dp/B001DF7EC8/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1387692464&sr=1-10&keywords=ir+extender

 

Or do I need the rx101?

 

2) The speakers pop when I turn on the unit for the first time of the day.  After that they don't pop.    I have a 5.1 setup with separate outlaw 2200 amps for the fronts and left.  The sub and the surrounds are run from the 6005.  Everything is pluggged into a couple surge protectors on the same 2 outlets.  I just moved 2 months ago and it did it also at my previous house.

 

Thanks for the help.

post #706 of 763
^^
1. You'll need a full IR repeater kit as the RX101 is a blue tooth adapter and not related to the remote control.
2. Try taking the surge protectors out of the loop as a test, otherwise set the AVR to power on at a very low volume.
post #707 of 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
1. You'll need a full IR repeater kit as the RX101 is a blue tooth adapter and not related to the remote control.
2. Try taking the surge protectors out of the loop as a test, otherwise set the AVR to power on at a very low volume.

 

Thanks!

post #708 of 763

I just bought a SR5005. I have my Oppo connected with HDMI and the 7.1 analog. If I want to play music using the 7.1 analog connections, does anyone know how I would select analog?

post #709 of 763
^^
Change the INPUT MODE for that source to "7.1 CH Input"; however, note that most prefer using HDMI as using the multi analog inputs will disable Audyssey.

post #710 of 763

Do I go into the menu to change that, or just do it on the remote? Thank you. I set up the receiver manually, I didn't use Audyssey. I may try it eventually but this is my 4th AV receiver and I feel that I can set it up the way I like it manually. 

post #711 of 763
Highly unlikely your manual setup will equal the dozens of EQ control points used by Audyssey unless you are using professional EQ equipment. You can cycle through the various audio modes by pressing the "A/D" button on the remote .....

post #712 of 763

Thank you, very helpful. I may give Audyssey a try. With my Denon 2311 the Audyssey didn't work and Denon Cust. Service told me it was because my speakers had built in subs. 

post #713 of 763
Not sure what "doesn't work" means to you, other than you perhaps preferred no Audyssey vs. Audyssey. And the fact that your speakers have powered subs is no reason it wouldn't work as well so that CSR was ill informed about how Audyssey works. Ensure you use either a camera tripod or ideally a mic boom stand when taking the mic measurements, and if you haven't already, review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in the Audyssey thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-51779/51700_100#post_21782993
post #714 of 763

The Audyssey literally didn't work, it didn't show up on the screen and it made no adjustments whatsoever. But, now that I have the Marantz I may try it. However, my wife and I listened to the Marantz for the first time tonight and played SACD, DVD Audio, HDCD, and regular CDs and we were blown away. All music was played through my Oppo 980h and I switched back and forth between HDMI and 7.1 analog. For SACD and DVD Audio, plus HDCD, I thought the analog sounded better. But analog or HDMI, the sound was by far the best I've ever had. Although I'm a Denon fan, the 2311 wasn't even remotely close to this sound. The best sound I had prior was when I had the JVC RX-DP10VBK, which was JVC's flagship AV receiver. I had a Denon 3910 CD player at that time and the JVC did a great job at playing DVD Audio through the 7.1 analog connections but when playing regular CDs it was good but not exceptional, a little better than the Denon 2311. But the SR5005 plays regular CDs better than any receiver I ever had. No more ear piercing highs when playing regular CDs loud. Prior to today I had been disappointed in the Oppo 980 except for when I was playing SACD or DVD Audio but now it sounds great and I don't regret getting rid of my Denon 3910. The SR5005 is amazing. I played a few songs from The Best of Graham Parker and The Rumour tonight and that cd has very poor sound, and even that sounded good. 

post #715 of 763

is it best to leave the HDMI on Automatic? 

post #716 of 763
Yup. smile.gif
post #717 of 763

I'm going to try Audyssey set up soon. Any suggestions? I do have a tripod. 

post #718 of 763
post #719 of 763

I set up Audyssey last night. I'm a little confused. When I go into the crossover frequency menu, it reads ADVANCED, Front 60 HZ, Center 40 Hz, Surround 40 HZ. Where is the sub frequency? When set to manual, the only thing I saw on this screen was the sub which I had set to 80 Hz.

 

Another thing I'm a bit confused about, I have two different music players, an Oppo 980 and a Sony 400 disc cd player. When I play the Sony I'd like to be able to play it through either analog or Optical. I have both plugged in. But when I try the A/D button on the remote it only toggles between 7.1 and analog, not digital. Any suggestions?

post #720 of 763
1. The sub doesn't have a crossover frequency (ie. the speakers are crossing over to the sub), rather the LPF for LFE should be reset from 80Hz to 120Hz to allow the full LFE signal to pass through to the sub.
2. In order to use that A/D button, each input must be assigned or using the same source name.
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