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post #241 of 326
I have attached pics after my try at getting this cloud ceiling done. I am not really happy with the clouds so wondering to get someone to redo it. What do you guys think?

I am planning to add soffit to have the star ceiling next but I have question on how the lighting done.

As you can see it in the last two pictures, it pops out because I have used fluorescent lamp. So but it looks like there is NO blacklight rope lighting available because I was planning to use fluorescent to light the clouds then blacklight rope to power the stars. Is that possible?

What is the best option to pop the clouds and starts because I have very limited space in the soffit crown molding.
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post #242 of 326
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I use (but currently have unplugged) incandescent rope lighting purchased from Lowes. It lights the clouds very well when fully lit.

I read your unhappy with your clouds. Luckily, you can just paint the sky blue over them and retry. My technique is really simple... Using a big round paint brush, dip it into the white paint. Then just let your arm have a mind of its own swirling, and stroking the cloud, the cloud should be more dense in the middle, and fade tward the edges (allowing some blue to show through). Try to make each cloud look different than the next. A couple small misty clouds here and there (using little to no paint on the brush).

Hope that helps.

So, the pictures above... Is that the size you have to work with as far as the soffit goes?? What are the dimentions of the ceiling??
post #243 of 326
Awesome job!
post #244 of 326
See you soon! Im at least in the same time zone as you... and should be able to be there Wednesday to just add a few things to your star ceiling. BTW... you did a great job already, so I'm not sure Ill have to do a lot, but Im excited to have you teach this non-artist how to paint clouds. I'm almost giddy. :-)

You'll love the Milky Way, I hope. I drove through Las Vegas a couple of nights ago... and when I was about an hour and a half away, I pulled over (no moon out so it was very dark), got out and stood, leaning up against my car for about an hour just taking it all in. The Milky Way was so incredibly bright. Amazing. I feel sorry for people who have never seen it. So... that is a must in your theater room ceiling.

Oh, one quick side note... I was practicing taking night shots with the camera and I was focused in on the Big and Little Dippers. While the shot was exposed... a huge, bright, long-lasting meteor flamed across the sky and burned out just after entering the frame that I was shooting. It looks really cool on the small screen of the camera. I can't wait to see how it looks on a large screen.

OK, I'm rambling. See you soon!
post #245 of 326
Make sure you share that image! Would love to see it!
post #246 of 326
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Make sure you share that image! Would love to see it!

OK.... It'll be a week or so before I'm back home... but I will. I couldn't believe it showed up as I was shooting the picture. I was hoping that I'd get part of it... and I got the last part of it before it burned out.

I'll post it when I get it on my comp.
post #247 of 326
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Just got off the phone with you Jeff... HAHA!! I'm gonna have to take a trip back to Vegas (moonless) have have a look again. It looked so AMAZING on the aircraft carrier... Can't wait to see it again, and share it with the Wife.

Looking forward to your visit tomorrow, I'm giddy too. Hope everything works out so we can get together tomorrow. Gonna go bust out a small sheet of sheet rock and paint it the sky blue in preparation for your visit.

Thanks to everyone who likes the mural... The pictures do it little justice.
post #248 of 326
From where you live.... forget Vegas! Head up to the redwoods. It'll be just as nice.

Hey, don't expect me too early in the morning. I'm sitting in Frazier Park right now, at a little ( was much larger, it seemed, when I was younger) lake that I used to fish in as I was growing up. May just stay the night here and head out early in the morning. I'll be in touch.





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Just got off the phone with you Jeff... HAHA!! I'm gonna have to take a trip back to Vegas (moonless) have have a look again. It looked so AMAZING on the aircraft carrier... Can't wait to see it again, and share it with the Wife.

Looking forward to your visit tomorrow, I'm giddy too. Hope everything works out so we can get together tomorrow. Gonna go bust out a small sheet of sheet rock and paint it the sky blue in preparation for your visit.

Thanks to everyone who likes the mural... The pictures do it little justice.


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post #249 of 326
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Wow. Did you take that picture? Looks like a fun place to hang out with the family. See you tomorrow... Im as excited as a school kid at the last day of school.
post #250 of 326
Just so you know... I was soooo stuffed with food that I only made it to Bakersfield before I had to pull over and find a place to sleep. What an incredible meal!!!!!!!!!!! Great family. Awesome theater room. Had a great time... and learned how to do clouds. Well, they're close to looking like clouds. Maybe after a few more.

Thanks for letting me come by and add a few stars to your already awesome ceiling. I hope the pics come out. Should have them to you by Monday. Then off the the KC area.

Jeff



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Wow. Did you take that picture? Looks like a fun place to hang out with the family. See you tomorrow... Im as excited as a school kid at the last day of school.
post #251 of 326
Here're a couple of pictures that I took just outside of Las Vegas last week. One shows what look like two shooting stars ( I was looking somewhere else if they are)... and the other shows the meteor just entering the right side of the picture before it burned out. I got so excited to see the picture that I let off of the shutter and didn't let the stars get exposed long enough. But, I can probably lighten the stars in photoshop.

Anyway, I said I'd put it up when I could.
post #252 of 326
Guess it helps if I attach the pics. Still getting used to the IPad.
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post #253 of 326
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Guess it helps if I attach the pics. Still getting used to the IPad.

The Milkey Way came out pretty good. However, I am not 100% sure those are 2 shooting stars. Its very likely that they were satellites that you picked up.

There is a way to verify as you can do a lookup using your coordinates of where you took the shot and the date and time and check what satellites were passing by, ISS or even iridium flare activity (perhaps that is what you caught in the 2nd shot). You can get this from a sight called heavensabove.org
post #254 of 326
I agree. I thought that they were either planes or satellites... but a friend kept saying, "no, those are shooting stars!" I'm inclined to believe what you're thinking too.

BTW... I have a couple shout where the MW came out really nice. I just downloaded those two pics onto a friends computer and enabled them to myself ( to get them onto my IPad) when I get home any get he pics onto my own computer... I'll put up a couple nice pics of the night sky ( probably on my thread ). I had a quick peek at them and they are pretty cool.

Bu again, I think that you're right... probably satellites.



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The Milkey Way came out pretty good. However, I am not 100% sure those are 2 shooting stars. Its very likely that they were satellites that you picked up.

There is a way to verify as you can do a lookup using your coordinates of where you took the shot and the date and time and check what satellites were passing by, ISS or even iridium flare activity (perhaps that is what you caught in the 2nd shot). You can get this from a sight called heavensabove.org
post #255 of 326
Thanks for posting the pics! The MW looks great!
post #256 of 326
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@Jeff

I really enjoyed your visit. My night sky mural looks AMAZING!!!!! You have a wonderful talent, and I intend on sharing it to the world (via internet). I hope you enjoyed the rib eye dinner .

I wanted to let you know that if you ever have any more jobs in my area, your welcome to stay the night at my house.

Don't forget to send me those pictures we took. I'd like to have a look at them and see how they came out.

Again, thank you, thank you, thank you, soooo much for touching up my mural. I absolutely LOVE IT!!!

Your Friend,

Jason

P.S. The official "feedback" will be submitted to you via email to use on your web site.
post #257 of 326
Jason.... I'm so happy that you guys like your slightly touched up mural. I was happy o do that and it was great meeting your family. I loved my time there... and I will hopefully be able to paint those clouds as nice as you did them.

Thanks for the offer to stay with you guys... that is very nice of you! And, if you guys eat like we ate when I was there... I may just take you up on that. You know... I ate a small amount of the food your wife sent home with me (along my trip back home) but wanted to save some for my wife to try out. She loved it all as much as I did... and so did my daughter who caught me with the plate. Seriously incredible dinner!!!!!!! Wow!

And, what a cool theater room. I went downstairs to measure the room that I've been considering for a while, but thought was too small. You've inspired me. Yours turned out soooo nice. I loved it.

I look forward to sharing your "testimonial" on my site... and appreciate your offer to tell others about your experience.

BTW... I'll get the pics to you later today, hopefully. Still moving really slowly after all that driving. Oh, I got some great shots of the night sky & Milky Way on my way back home.

Thanks for your hospitality and for the ideas I got from your theater.

Jeff
post #258 of 326
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Jeff,

I'm sooo glad you enjoyed your visit... and the food. I'm hoping you guys can recreate the "Party Potatoes", it is quite the delicious dish. And a family favorite for leftover breakfast.

We're back from Susanville, CA... I'm ready to write the AMAZING review. Just waiting on the pictures. I'd like to add one to my review, hope you don't mind.

To all my followers,

Jeff is quite the artistic genius. What he does, in such a short time, is mind blowing. I have seen gods masterpiece in person (on a Navy Aircraft Carrier in the middle of the Atlantic) and can honestly say... "NightSkyMurals' night sky mural is the closest to the real thing!". I've seen fiber optics (well done at a casino in Washington) and can honestly say, NightSkyMurals is the way to go. You will not see a more realistic sky in your theater room (bedroom or where ever) than what Jeff at NightSkyMurals will create for you. Hands down...

More to come.

Thanks again Jeff.
post #259 of 326
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@Jeff- Thanks for the pictures.

As promised, here are a couple photos taken after Jeff from NightSkyMurals came and touched up my night sky mural...

This is a great shot of the ceiling with the lights on showing off my cloudy sky mural...



Here is a shot using Jeff's camera, we tried really hard to capture the Milky Way that he painted... I've noticed camera's really don't capture what the eye can see...



Keep in mind, turning on the black lights and charging the stars in a fully pitch dark room is ideal for taking pictures of the mural. These photo's were taken while the sun was still out, quite a bit of ambient light was peaking through the blinds and cracks in the doors.

This image (same image as above) has been Photoshop'd. But this is a better idea of what is seen by the naked eye after the paint has been charged, and viewed in the dark (your eyes adjusted to no light). Using Photoshop, I adjusted the contrast to bring out more of what is actually seen. Keep in mind that contrast has been adjusted so more light (in the picture) is viewable. The camera can pick up the Milky Way, but for some reason doesn't expose it correctly. Have a look...



As you can see, the stars seem a bit too big and bright, this is due to Photoshop. In person, the stars are smaller and not as blurry.

In my opinion, NightSkyMurals' glow-in-the-dark night sky murals best portrays the night sky. I have seen the most spectacular night sky on Navy ships out to sea. Now thanks to Jeff... I have it in my theater room, ready for viewing pleasure. You really have to see it to believe it.

Thanks again Jeff... The family and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!
post #260 of 326
Nice job bringing out the Milky Way!

Let me just add here that the real look of the ceiling is like you see in the second picture... Only with
the Milky Way crossing the ceiling as seen in the third picture (only more cloudy looking, not so noisy). But, to even get it to show up is great.

I love the set up you have in that room, Jason. It's inspired me. I can just picture my family enjoying the room I've always wanted to turn into a theater... but thought was too small. It really isn't, and you have plenty of room. Love he room!!!
post #261 of 326
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I blacked out my window today... Finally. I used black plastic behind the black-out curtains, also used some weather striping around the double doors behind the theater chairs. Its very dark in there during the day now, no more ambient light showing through the top of the black-out curtains. Although I need to figure out a way to block the light from coming in behind the seats... The area under the doors still letting in light. I would like to have the room so dark, that I'm unable to see my hand in front of my face.

Been working on fully automating the room. Since moving the HTPC into the room (my son no longer uses it... YES!!) the HDMI has been having handshake issues with my receiver. A call to Logitech support fixed that for free.

My only hurdle now is Bluray playback using Arcsoft TMT3, and 5 software. I think my receiver is finicky. If I load an ISO with DeamonTools (from my desktop), Blurays play fine with full HD audio. But if I launch it using Media Browser, I get no audio and extremely choppy video, only way to fix the issue is selecting S/PDIF, then back to HDMI under TMT's MCE plugin setup menu. Been to the Arcsoft forums, seems as though its an issue for everyone using MyMovies and Media Browser. Guess we'll wait and see if they're able to sort things out. Thinking about trying my living room Onkyo receiver to see if it'll work. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Next project... Home Theater Decor using acoustic panels for movie posters.
post #262 of 326
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Bought my acoustic panels and acoustically transparent movie posters... Can't wait to build these and hang them on the theater. Its in dire need for decor.
post #263 of 326
I saw a page or two back that you have an X-Box Kinect in your theatre. Did you extend the wiring for that back to a rack somewhere? I have been thinking lately about how I can extend wiring for a Wii sensor bar, Kinect, etc. Thanks and congratulations on the beautiful ceiling!
post #264 of 326
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I saw a page or two back that you have an X-Box Kinect in your theatre. Did you extend the wiring for that back to a rack somewhere? I have been thinking lately about how I can extend wiring for a Wii sensor bar, Kinect, etc. Thanks and congratulations on the beautiful ceiling!

Thanks jdanforth,

Having my credenza's under the screen, I'm able to run my setup without extender cables for my Kinect. I'm sure its possible. Try buying a length of cable needed for your Wii, Kinect etc. and just connect them and see what happens. Its worth a shot.
post #265 of 326
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Been having HDD I/O errors with one of my original 500gig HDD's. Bought a 1tb HDD today at Bestbuy. I was able to backup my movies from the faulty HDD (thank goodness), I was afraid I was going to loose over 100 DVD's. I formatted the faulty HDD, it seems to be working ok (outside of Media Browser).

Is there a way to test this drive for errors??
post #266 of 326
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Been having HDD I/O errors with one of my original 500gig HDD's. Bought a 1tb HDD today at Bestbuy. I was able to backup my movies from the faulty HDD (thank goodness), I was afraid I was going to loose over 100 DVD's. I formatted the faulty HDD, it seems to be working ok (outside of Media Browser).

Is there a way to test this drive for errors??

There are plenty of testing software out there. Maybe check the manufacturers website. Or you can use the one built into windows. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...isk-for-errors

By the way, nice work on the home theater setup. Tastefully done, much like your work over at the mediabrowser forums. I'm a big fan
post #267 of 326
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Thanks FantaXP7,

Media Browser started giving me SQlite I/O errors during beta testing for "Hydra". Im hoping to still be able to use the HDD. I feel very lucky to be able to save my movies before it crapped out for good.
post #268 of 326
The best utility I've used for drives is SpinRite. But given that you rescued the data already I suggest that you just scrap the 'ol girl. And shame on you for not having backups!!
post #269 of 326
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Thanks FantaXP7,

Media Browser started giving me SQlite I/O errors during beta testing for "Hydra". Im hoping to still be able to use the HDD. I feel very lucky to be able to save my movies before it crapped out for good.

I hear ya. I had a hard drive with movies but more importantly pictures from a trip to Italy. After that died I was kicking myself and now have a server for media with raid to protect it. It takes an event like that to push you and take more effort to protect your data.

Anyways, can't wait for Hydra. Hope it actually gets released on the 9th.
post #270 of 326
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I hear ya. I had a hard drive with movies but more importantly pictures from a trip to Italy. After that died I was kicking myself and now have a server for media with raid to protect it. It takes an event like that to push you and take more effort to protect your data.

RAID is not backup. Ask me how I know.

I do have an actual backup process in place now for files and self-generated media. Not for recordings, music, or ripped DVDs (backup cost is not worth it, for me). But I still have holes in my plan - my backup is a separate hard drive in my main server. So I'm still vulnerable to something that destroys that computer. I have a 1TB removable drive that is ostensibly backed up to monthly - but I'm not diligent about that. That would provide some measure of protection against fire... provided I was home to grab the drive on my way out the door. I really should be rsyncing data to a remote site - the big expense there would be setting up a separate computer at a friend or relative's house, or buying a cloud storage account somewhere. Since backups are incremental (and I'm not backing up media), it would make sense to do the initial backup on a LAN, and then hook up the computer remotely and do the incrementals over the WAN.

You have to balance the benefit vs the cost/effort. I've pretty much decided copying to a second disk nightly (with critical files - pictures that my wife would be distraught over losing, etc - backed up to a removable disk that can leave the house in case of emergency) is sufficient for me.

Sorry for gumming up the thread with a tangential post.

Edit: Oh, you can download a Linux LiveCD, boot into it, and run fsck on your failed (?) drive. This should attempt to repair any filesystem errors. There are MS equivalents - CHKDISK and SCANDISK - but I have no idea if they are even included in recent distributions of Windows, or if it's all via GUI tools in the system maintenance area of Windows now.
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