AVS Marantz UD5005 Owner's Thread: All questions and discussions go here - Page 3

2-channel stereo users beware ... Panasonic BDT-x10 does not ouput any Blu-ray audio via analog L/R RCAs!

I don't think any of the other brands mentioned on this page have this limitation.

well, they do, but only if the player is not on 24p. With the player on 24p my 310 was erratic: sometimes there would be audio, more times not, and sometimes audio with the menu and after choosing "play movie" no audio. With 24p switched off I had no problems with analog audio.

Didn't work for me, regardless of 24p setting. Even still it's a lousy workaround for someone with a newer TV and older stereo.

I will continue to update my repair experience. Marantz instructed me to ship my UD5005 to United Radio in Syracuse, NY. My cost to ship it was $20. The unit failed on 1/12, I shipped it on 1/13, received at United Radio 1/18 (checked status 48 hours later--nothing done to it yet).

I bought a $125 Sony Blu-ray/3D player on 1/14 (as a back up) because I couldn't stand to be without movies for as long as the Marantz repair system requires. So far I like the Sony better.

Note: as a comparison, I recently had an HP laptop component failure during the warranty period. It failed on a Wednesday afternoon, HP sent a return box that arrived the next day, Fed Ex picked up the laptop same day and it arrived HP the next morning and was repaired that afternoon and shipped that night. It arrived at my house Monday morning. Shipping was no charge to me. The laptop actually cost a little less than my Marantz UD5005. As a result, I will be an HP guy for life AND will NEVER EVER consider Marantz again!!! It's all about good customer service from my point of view--we always hope we never need a repair, but when it happens, it can make a 'world of difference', at least from my perspective.

Here's another update (or lack thereof), my Marantz UD5005 has not even been looked at yet. It has now been at United Radio for six days. Earlier I was told 7-10 days on the turn-around, now I am being told 12-15 days.

Good luck with your Marantz!!

(to be continued)

I got the Marantz UD5005 few months back and since last month the blu-ray DVD's have been freezing after 1 hour of play. Usually it freezes between 1:15 - 1:45

Would firmware upgrade resolve the issue?

I had to send my AV7005 into United Radio for repair. They had the unit 8 weeks and then it came back with the exact same problems.

I recently got a Marantz UD-5005 BD player and a Marantz SR-5006 receiver. I'm still getting them tweaked the way I'd like, and trying to interpret the not terribly well written manuals.

Anyway, one issue I've run into so far is getting the BD player to output things at the proper aspect ratio. It seems to do just fine with widescreen DVD's and BD discs, but when I put in (for example) a DVD of the Simpsons season 6, which is entirely in 4:3 I end up with a stretched picture unless I change my TV (Toshiba Regza 40xv645u) to 4:3. I feel like there should be some setting on the BD player that I'm missing that should resolve this so I don't have to do anything but put a disc in and be confident that the aspect ratio will be correct (and I can leave my TV on "Native"), but I haven't found it yet.

Any help would be most appreciated.

(PS, BD Player is connected to the receiver via HDMI, receiver to TV also via HDMI).

Edited by DrOct - 9/11/12 at 6:19am

Quick follow up. I found the issue. Apparently I had changed it from the default setting at some point during setup. Just be sure it's on 1080p auto-squeeze ( in the "tv" setting menu) and it should work the way you think it should.

To the owners of this player, I would like to ask if they think the UD7006 would be a real upgrade. As I cannot listen/see them here in my town.

Looking at the specs, the audio processing seems the same. The huge difference beyond analog outputs is the video processing. Has anyone done a A/B comparison before buying?

Thanx.

I was able to purchase the 5005 at a fairly good price and I am OK with it. Considered the 7006 but like you unable to do an A/B
comparison where I live. If you watch mostly Blu-rays and plan to use the HDMI out then I think the 5005 would be the one to get. If you watch a lot SD DVDs then the Anchor Bay up-conversion of the 7006 might be the way to go. What kind of AVR are you using? Are the 7006 analog outs important to you? Do you use Audyssey on your AVR?
One annoying limitation of my 5005 has been with SD DVD and DVD-A...when I put the player in source direct mode and use my AVR's up-conversion to 1080p via HDMI the audio output from the 5005 is limited up to 48 kHz. Not an issue with most discs but with some YES...DTS 96/24 and DVD-As at 96 kHz are output at 48kHz when 5005 is in source direct. When I change this setting to 1080p(using the 5005's "non-Anchor Bay" up-conversion/ AVR video processing off) the higher resolution audio is output from the 5005!
If you watch a lot of DVDs there are other players that do a better job with non high definition material like the OPPO 93 or 95. I considered those but I'm kind of old school about purchasing from brick and mortar stores and always avoided the shipping thing. In retrospect I now sometimes wish I had gone the OPPO route. There is a thread on AVS " the OFFICIAL help me choose a player " that you may want to check out for more and probably better advice than from me! Good luck on your decision!
EDIT: FWIW the AVR I'm using with the 5005 is the SR-7005 which has the Anchor Bay video processing built-in... this influenced me NOT to get the 7006 OR it's Denon "sister" model the DBP-2012. Many have compared the Denon DBP-1611 with the Marantz UD-5005 being the "same" units just re-badged by D&M. Comparing both in the store visually and by feel the Marantz to me had better build quality and slightly more solid construction than it's Denon counterpart.
One more annoying limitation of the UD 5005/SR 7005 combo is with SACD. The 5005 offers full SACD over HDMI support...it will output pure DSD bitstream BUT the SR-7005 cannot decode it! The workaround is letting the 5005 output the DSD as PCM (88.2khz) which sounds pretty good but ideally it would be nice to have both options. ( My Denon AVR-4310 and 4311 units DO allow for both SACD DSD bitstream or PCM). My understanding is the Marantz 8xxx AVRs could accept DSD bitstream but this feature was omitted from the "flagship" SR-7005. It will be interesting to see how Marantz handles this going forward in the upcoming SR-7007 AVR....and if we will finally see a new 8xxx AVR or pre-pro. Ironically the Denon DBP 1611 and 2012 players will output DSD over HDMI but only offer SACD as PCM at 44.1 kHz! That was a deal breaker for me...EDIT: wrong info 1611 and 2012 DO output SACD as PCM at 88.2 kHz....sorry.

I believe that you're wrong about this. Earlier Denon players (including the DVD-A1UDCI and the DBP-4010UDCI output PCM from SACDs at only 44.1 kHz. However, the newer players, including the 1611 you mentioned above, output at 88.2 kHz (similar to the various Oppo players).

Matty

I am sorry I am wrong about this! I was confusing the older Denon players with the 1611 and 2012! My bad...thanks for correcting!

Thank you very much for your reply and information. Do you think that the UD7006 could outperform on these limitations you pointed on the 5005 through the analog connections? I do intend to listen to SACDs / DVD-A and was going with the SR7005 combo to do it. Looking at the specs of both players, the audio processing looks the same.

Regards,

Carlos

Hi Carlos
Not sure I understand your question fully but here goes anyway
Many SACD people are perfectly content with their players decimating DSD to 88.1kHz (some Sony, Yamaha and others 176.2 kHz) PCM. If you use Audyssey XT room correction in the SR-7005 you'll want to use HDMI out from the UD-5005 and NOT
the analog out.(Just stereo analog on 5005)
If having a multi channel analog option is important to you then I'd say spring for the 7006 but many will advise you NOT to because you cannot use Audyssey in that scenario. I can't personally tell you how good the 7.1 analog sound is out of the 7006 but on my 5005 when I compare the DSD as PCM over HDMI to the stereo analog out sound, the 88.2 kHz PCM wins for SQ. DVD-A over HDMI as MLP or PCM sounds great too and will support 96 kHz 5.1 or up to 192kHz 2.0. Just avoid source direct and make sure the 5005 is set to output at 1080p. I would assume the 7006 has the same quirk but not 100% sure. As far as 7006 analog outs helping you outperform the 5005, based on my listening to the 5005's outs, I don't think it will help or make a difference IMHO.
You might try posting in the SR-7005 thread to ask if anyone over there has used an UD-7006 with the EXT in analog of the 7005 and compared it A/B with the HDMI in SQ for Mch and/or stereo SACD and DVD-A....hope this helps.
David
P.S One advantage of getting the UD 7006 is you set the output resolution of the player to 1080p (avoiding the source direct 48 kHz limit) turn the SR-7005's I/P scaler off...HDMI in option and 7.1 analog in both available. The OPPO 95 would give you these options too....so would the Denon DBP-2012.
I have used the SR-7005's EXT IN Mch analog with the 5.1 analog outs of an older Denon DVD/SACD player ( DVD-758 aka DVD-1940) and while pleased with the sound I prefer the HDMI in for both SQ and the ability to use Audyssey XT RC...YMMV.
BTW I remember looking at the specs and coming to the same conclusion as you regarding audio performance for both players...they do look very similar with the exception of the Mch analog outs on the UD-7006. The 7006 has the "brand name" Anchor Bay video processing and upconversion of SD DVD to 1080p. The 5005 upconverts to 1080p too but without the "designer" Anchor Bay chipset. I am no videophile but when I compare the SD DVD on my UD5005 a) source direct w/ SR7005
Anchor Bay I/P scaler on 1088p to b) 1080p HDMI non-Anchor Bay out on player SR-7005 I/P scaler off....I really don't see much difference. With the OPPO 93 I have read that would NOT be the case and that player really shines in making SD DVD look HD. Never seen it with my own eyes, may break down and order one sometime...

Hi David

I didn´t realise that we couldn´t use Audyssey with Analog. That´s why I "suggested" that the 7006 with its analog connections could maybe output at higher frequencies on PCM, which is the limitation of the 5005 you pointed through the HDMI linked with the AVR. I think we should get the most of these players, and sounds weird how Marantz projected these equipment with such limitations... Looks like they weren´t developed to work at its best with each other.

Reading your posts, I can now realise that the 5005 is definetly a better cost/benefit player over the 7006. I already have a Panasonic Player, and would be migrating to Marantz for the SACD/DVD-A audio experience / better video upscaller, and also making a good combo with a SR7005.

I shall also give "a look" on the Oppo 93 audio output specs qualities, as it´s the other player I could afford to buy instead.

Clarification: with 7.1 EXT in (analog) on the SR-7005 you have no Audyssey and no manual EQ. My Denon AVRs are designed the same way as I think most all in this price range are. However for 2 channel analog in (stereo) you CAN use Audyssey , manual EQ and/or tone....although not Audyssey and manual EQ at the same time. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear about this. The UD-5005, UD-7005 and OPPO 93 all output SACD DSD as PCM over HDMI at 88.2 kHz. All three handle DVD-A at 96 kHz 5.1 Mch PCM over HDMI. All three can output bitstream DSD to be decoded by the AVR... unfortunately Marantz left this capability off on the SR-7005. I agree with you 100% that it is weird how they designed these products with unfortunate limitations and design quirks. I don't understand why choice of video resolution (source direct, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p) on my 5005 should have an effect on the audio resolution! Especially in source direct, the audio should be output at high resolution just as it is with NO down sampling to 48 kHz! Change the resolution above 480p and then you'll hear your DVD-A 5.1 at 96 kHz or your DVD with DTS 96/24 at 96 kHz. Very frustratiing.
I hope I have been of some help my posts may be long and rambling please forgive!

Sure it was of great help. Thank you very much !

Hi, can anyone advise if this player actually supports and will play 3d blu-ray?

Thanks

The player must have a firmware update to play 3D bluray. It was made available in fall 2010 but I have not personally updated mine. Hopefully someone else who has will post more details and experience about the firmware update and the player's performance afterwards.

I've updated mine, and it does say it has 3D capabilities. A few reviews also talked about it. I don't have a 3D capable TV or any 3D movies so I can't speak to how well it performs (even if I did I wouldn't have anything to compare it to), but the feature is definitely there and some of the reviews I read seemed to say it did a decent job of it.

I've been searching for reviews that cover 3d and or 3d performance and have had no luck finding any.

It's possible I'm mixing up some reviews of this player and it's sister Denon unit (Denon DBP-1611UD), but they are very nearly identical so whatever applies to one is likely to apply to the other.

Here's one of the Denon unit that discusses the 3D capabilities. (and the menus a bit which appear to be identical to the Marantz ones).

http://www.blu-raydefinition.com/har...er-review.html

And now I remember the same site has a review of this particular unit. Emphasizes the similarities between the two. http://www.blu-raydefinition.com/har...er-review.html

I just got this player a few months at a fairly low price because the local Best Buy was closing. It runs concurrently with a fatboy PS3. Side by side, the PS3 still loads Blu-ray discs faster than the Marantz and the PS3 has a playback resume function after power off which the UD5005 does not. Both feed audio to my Onkyo TX-SR805 receiver by HDMI and the Onkyo decodes SACD natively via HDMI. Video and audio from all sources is excellent. Not too keen on the remote control with its small buttons.

Hi,

I need help regarding the marantz app... Im trying to connect the ud5005 entering its static ip adress, but the app says wrong ip constantly! Anyone here figured this out?

It is posible to stream movies and video clips from my ipad to the ud5005 right?
Is anyone here streaming with an ipad, if so how are you doing this?

Tnx

Hi, I joined this forum after purchasing an UD5005 + SR5006 combo. I've encountered a problem that seems to be pretty unique. I've connected the two with HDMI as well as analogue cables. Analogue, to be able to use the UD5005 DAC and to be able to use Pure Direct on the UD5005. When I enable Pure Direct, the disc (audio CD) starts skipping with precise one-second intervals. Sometimes this starts right away, sometimes after a few tracks, sometimes it doesn't manifest itself at all. When I disconnect the HDMI-cable, the skipping stops, when I switch off the amp, the skipping also stops (I can see this in the display and can hear it when I connect the analogue outputs to a wireless headphone unit). I've fiddled with all kinds of settings, switched all cables, but the issue remains.

I've searched many threads (including 43 pages of SR5006/6006) for a solution, but didn't find one.

Any suggestions?

I have a UD-5005 and have never experienced the problem you are describing. It sounds to me like you could possibly have a defective unit.
Have you done a microprocessor reset on the UD-5005? If not, try that on the player and maybe the SR too (?)
Wish I could be of more help, this is not a very active thread these days...

Thanks for the reply.

I've done resets on both units.

I also think that something is wrong with the UD5005, although the fact that it only happens when there is an hdmi-connection with the SR5006 (that has to be turned on) makes it a little suspect as to the cause. Is it the UD5005 or the SR5006?

I've asked my local dealer (in the Netherlands) for help and/or exchange since I've only had the units for a week.