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post #91 of 111
Solved. Thanks to a guy on Dutch Marantz forum who had a comparable issue, only his UD-5005 skipped also without enabling pure direct.
Solution is to connect HDMI and analog cables to BR-input (I had the analog cables connected to the CD-input). Then switch between HDMI and Analog in the amp's input menu. rolleyes.gif
post #92 of 111
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Originally Posted by HaaVee View Post

Solved. Thanks to a guy on Dutch Marantz forum who had a comparable issue, only his UD-5005 skipped also without enabling pure direct.
Solution is to connect HDMI and analog cables to BR-input (I had the analog cables connected to the CD-input). Then switch between HDMI and Analog in the amp's input menu. rolleyes.gif

Glad you were able to get your issue resolved. On the SR's remote look for a button near the top labelled "A/D"... this allows you switch between HDMI,
Digital (coax/opt) and analog inputs WITHOUT having to go all the way in to the amp's input menu.
This recommendation is based on my experience with the SR-7005, thinking that the remote for your SR
may have the same capability.
post #93 of 111
Thank for the suggestion, but unfortunately the (European version of the) 5006 remote doesn't sport such a button. And since I don't want to fire up my TV jut for a mnu, there's a whole lot of learning-by-heart-blind-button-pushing going on here: (4 variants, from 'cold start' choosing HDMI or Analog, plus from 'warm situation' changing to/from the two options). I'd almost upgrade to a SR-7005 for this reason alone....mad.gif
post #94 of 111
Noticed there's a new firmware update. Anyone have any idea what it's supposed to do? And has anyone applied it yet? Any problems?
post #95 of 111
Ive just ordered a Marantz 5007, do they actually have a site to keep up with updates or does the box just tell you when there is something new LOL?
post #96 of 111
There may be a site where they describe the updates, but I'm not aware of where that site is...
post #97 of 111
Hallo to everyone! I'm trying to solve a problem regarding 24fps freezing MKV videos... May the region free hack get rid of this annoying issue? My Marantz UD5005 is Italian, and properly reads 25fps mkv files, while 24fps ones freeze every second. I also tried to have a look to the service menus (I spotted at least two of them) but they are difficult to understand.
post #98 of 111
Two things: 1)We just got another firmware update. I know it's probably futile to ask as Marantz doesn't generally give out too much info on these, but any idea what it did this time?

2) Region Free Hack? I must have missed something because I had no idea there was such an option for this player. I'd be very interested in that. I just came across a movie I'd love to get (Akira on Blu Ray), but they've apparently stopped making the Region 1 version, so the only version available at a reasonable price is the Region 2 version.
post #99 of 111
I was curious if there was a forum for the Marantz UD 7007 universal bluray player? I tried searching for it with no luck. I was looking for a player that excelled in 2-channel listening. The only other player I am looking at is the Oppo 103 or 105.
post #100 of 111
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

I was curious if there was a forum for the Marantz UD 7007 universal bluray player? I tried searching for it with no luck. I was looking for a player that excelled in 2-channel listening. The only other player I am looking at is the Oppo 103 or 105.

Me too, I just bought a UD7007 because it almost same price as Oppo 103 at my country.

Why not change this thread to UD5007/UD7007 ?
post #101 of 111
Because this thread is about the 5005. It doesnt' really make sense to change this thread's topic just because a new player has come out. Start up a new thread on the new players!
post #102 of 111
They have an open box player at best buy for 250. Good buy at that price? Works like a charm.
post #103 of 111
Assuming it's in good condition that's a really great deal!
post #104 of 111
If you check out your local Bestbuy Magnolia stores, these are on clearance.

I just got one from local BB Magnolia for $199.99, it was in very good condition and was a display unit.
Actually I got it for much less cause I had a digital rewards coupon for $75 off but the store manager could not get the coupon to enter and work.
So in the end, he just manually discounted my UD5005 for $124.99.
post #105 of 111
I picked up one yesterday at the BB for $224.99. No box but otherwise in good condition. I found one issue, it's relatively quiet on all formats I tried, CD, SACD, DVD and Blu-Ray, but on the two 3-D Blu-Ray disks I own, the unit vibrates loudly.
post #106 of 111
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Originally Posted by davidbarrickman View Post


One annoying limitation of my 5005 has been with SD DVD and DVD-A...when I put the player in source direct mode and use my AVR's up-conversion to 1080p via HDMI the audio output from the 5005 is limited up to 48 kHz. Not an issue with most discs but with some YES...DTS 96/24 and DVD-As at 96 kHz are output at 48kHz when 5005 is in source direct. When I change this setting to 1080p(using the 5005's "non-Anchor Bay" up-conversion/ AVR video processing off) the higher resolution audio is output from the 5005!

So I was just playing around with the player and found that it's possible this issue has been resolved via one of the firmware updates we've gotten since this was posted. I had basically just left my player in 1080p mode all the time as per your suggestion above (my receiver doesn't have an upconverter in it and I haven't really found the one in my TV to be super amazing), but tonight I got to wondering if maybe this issue had been resolved. I was just playing around with this with a DVD-A that's encoded at 96khz. No matter what resolution mode I put the player in (I didn't try EVERY one but I did try Auto, Source Direct, 1080p, and even 480i) it happily played everything at 96khz, never once dropping down to 48khz. (Or at least my receiver, an SR-5006 was saying it was getting a 96khz signal, and I couldn't hear any difference in the sound after it made the switch, though there was a brief pause in the music whenever I switched).

If you've updated your firmware I'd be interested to hear your experiences Davidbarrickman. I wonder if the issue is actually with your (slightly) older receiver rather than the player? Didn't older HDMI things often have limitations like this because they wouldn't use the full bandwidth of the connection if they they weren't set to 1080p? I would think that your receiver would be new enough for that to not be an issue but maybe? Anyway if you see this, AND you've updated your Firmware, I'd love to hear if you still have the issue.

I'm happy to change my setting back to "Auto" and not worry about this all anymore!
post #107 of 111
I am somewhat ashamed to admit this, but I am still unable to do firmware updates on my gear...and even though I still have the Marantz UD-5005, I have been mainly using 2 Denon DBP-A100s, one with a Denon AVR-4310 and the other with an AVR-4311. When I get a chance, I'll revisit this issue I noticed and posted about some months ago...I'll test my 5005 again with both the 4310 and 4311 with SD DVD w/DTS 96/24 and DVD-A w/96/24. Pretty sure it wasn't a limitation of the older AVR-4310, but I'll hook up the 5005 to both the 4310 and the newer 4311 to double check. Glad to hear that your 5005 is no longer limited to 48 kHz when set to Source Direct...I bet it was a bug in the player that was fixed with a firmware update. I remember when I first discovered this I thought it was rather odd and was convinced I had a setting wrong somewhere that was causing the issue (human error) but I never could figure it out...
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Originally Posted by davidbarrickman View Post


One annoying limitation of my 5005 has been with SD DVD and DVD-A...when I put the player in source direct mode and use my AVR's up-conversion to 1080p via HDMI the audio output from the 5005 is limited up to 48 kHz. Not an issue with most discs but with some YES...DTS 96/24 and DVD-As at 96 kHz are output at 48kHz when 5005 is in source direct. When I change this setting to 1080p(using the 5005's "non-Anchor Bay" up-conversion/ AVR video processing off) the higher resolution audio is output from the 5005!

So I was just playing around with the player and found that it's possible this issue has been resolved via one of the firmware updates we've gotten since this was posted. I had basically just left my player in 1080p mode all the time as per your suggestion above (my receiver doesn't have an upconverter in it and I haven't really found the one in my TV to be super amazing), but tonight I got to wondering if maybe this issue had been resolved. I was just playing around with this with a DVD-A that's encoded at 96khz. No matter what resolution mode I put the player in (I didn't try EVERY one but I did try Auto, Source Direct, 1080p, and even 480i) it happily played everything at 96khz, never once dropping down to 48khz. (Or at least my receiver, an SR-5006 was saying it was getting a 96khz signal, and I couldn't hear any difference in the sound after it made the switch, though there was a brief pause in the music whenever I switched).

If you've updated your firmware I'd be interested to hear your experiences Davidbarrickman. I wonder if the issue is actually with your (slightly) older receiver rather than the player? Didn't older HDMI things often have limitations like this because they wouldn't use the full bandwidth of the connection if they they weren't set to 1080p? I would think that your receiver would be new enough for that to not be an issue but maybe? Anyway if you see this, AND you've updated your Firmware, I'd love to hear if you still have the issue.

I'm happy to change my setting back to "Auto" and not worry about this all anymore!
post #108 of 111
Sure thing! No worries if you're not really using the player, I was just curious if this was working correctly for others or if I just got lucky or something!

Anyone else able to confirm that theirs is or is not working correctly?
post #109 of 111
DrOct
I've kept this UD-5005 because it is a very decent universal player for shiny discs, I got it at a discounted price and it's nice to have a back up player around...the Denon DBP-A100 will occasionally refuse to load certain discs, and usually the UD-5005 will play what the Denon refuses. So I still use it some, glad to have it around. I'll report back, but it would be good to hear if anyone else noticed this 48kHz limit when using source direct instead of AUTO or 1080p for the HDMI resolution setting.
David
post #110 of 111
Dr Oct
Well, I revisited this tonight for 2 hours with the owner's manual and all my settings are correct. "Down Sampling" is set to 192 kHz (the 4310 and 4311 both can handle it from discs) and "HD audio output" is selected (secondary mix off). So here's my findings...
When playing DVD-Audio disc with MLP 5.1 or 2.0 Advanced Resolution 96kHz audio options, my UD-5005 outputs the 96kHz audio to the AVR-4310 and 4311 ONLY if the player's resolution is set to 720p,1080i, 1080p or AUTO. If set to 480i, 480p, or most significantly "SOURCE DIRECT" the Denon clearly shows it is receiving 48 kHz 5.1 from the UD-5005. I've seen advice on these forums to use "Source Direct" so the intention of my original post was to give a heads up about listening to Hi-Res DVD-A on this player and avoiding "Source Direct" when doing so...
Now I must admit that part of my original post appears to be WRONG...using a Keith Jarrett SD DVD-video tonight with DTS 96/24 5.1, "Souce Direct" DID NOT cause the audio to be output at 48 kHz...I could have sworn I obseved this happen months ago but obviously I was wrong...perhaps it was another DVD-Video that was copy-protected to 48 kHz, or error on my part. Sorry for posting bad info...
But I stand by my statement regarding DVD-Audio and Source Direct on my player...so if yours isn't acting this way then I suppose Marantz DID fix this by firmware update. I am slowly trying to catch up with tech, computers, etc. so maybe someday I'll be able to do firmware updates...although I've read of people bricking their units when doing so and ignorance sometimes is bliss. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...other than this "quirk" my 5005 has been rock solid.
post #111 of 111
I was testing with a DVD-Audio disc (Rush's Moving Pictures) when I was trying it out and my receiver was telling me it was getting 96khz while on Source Direct. So it may in fact be that they fixed it with a Firmware update (which is of course good news). I can totally understand your hesitance to "fix" what isn't broken though! You can always change from Source Direct whenever playing DVD-A discs!

It does occur to me that I didn't try any Blu-Rays or actually even any DVD-Video disks, I should give that a try. (I will say that I DID try out an SACD and was getting my usual 88.2khz PCM from those (since my receiver sadly does not decode DSD itself).
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