Nvidia GeForce GTX 460(GF104 GPU) supports full audio bitstreaming - Page 60

Just wait while you see the first time how the Xonar HW clock behaves

I changed my power settings from Adaptive to Maximum Performance. I haven't had a crash since but the GPU temp went up ten degrees.

Hello:

I'm posting here because I have 2 issues with a nvidia card GT430, and I hope you can help me.

Config:
OS: w7 32 bits
nvidia GT430:
driver version:285.38
YCbCr. Range 16-235
Other parameters: controlled by video player

The HTPC is connected to an onkyo 606 and video output to a projector Mitsubishi HC7000.

First Issue: When I set 24 Hz, colors are dimmed, not only playing videos, for instance the blacks of the words in windows explorer tend to be grey. I set 60Hz and colors are more vivid and blacks are blacks.

Second Issue: I use MPC-HC version 1.52.3456 to play mkv's. I use EVR-CP and the only external filter is ffdshow audio decoder for HD audio. When playing videos I usually get stuttering in image after a while being smoothly (say 10-15 mins). The stuttering is very intense, like 1 frame drop every 2 or 3 and audio is correct. To resolve it I pause the video and resume it again and the stuttering dissapears for other 10-15 mins. There is no problem whith processor (4 cores at 15-20%).

Can anyone help me?

Thank you in advance.

These drivers are very bad ju-ju for me. I installed the 32 bit version and no video in WMC... stock decoders and renderer. I did not run WMC until today. so I wasn't sure if it was the video driver or what so I went to my last restore point. The OS blew up doing the recovery from restore point... thank goodness for Window Home Server client backup.


Wasted a good portion of the day over this. I have been running a beta. I can duplicate the issue. If I install the WHQL driver over 285.38 video goes awy in WMC. I assume I will need to uninstall the driver first. I will mess with it later this burned me out.

Anybody else have trouble with this one.

Yes, Andy_O reported the same thing on the LAV Filters thread on doom9. Not happening for all though. Don't know if it's just certain cards or what. I was about to go beat on my system and see how it reacted to the upgrade.

I had become to trusting I guess. WHQL and all. First issue for me with an Nivida driver in a year. The OS blowing up as a result of driver issues is what soured me so badly on AMD. I have only had Windows Home Server a couple of months. I had done one client restore before on a box with a Realtek nic, that was straightforward. This box has intel. I am a newbie on WHS and did not now there was a driver folder on the server for each client.. Man when the box was saying it found the driver after a scan and could NOT find the server.. I was freaking out.. The intel drive is an installer so I expected trouble. That is when I found the recovery driver folder on the server and that driver set PROPERLY loaded the nic driver and allowed me to see the server.

Without WHS this would have been a big disaster for me.

You know what you get when you don't get what you want?

EXPERIENCE!

I am growing weary of becoming more and more experienced.

Yep, Win 7-64 here, GTX460 and black screen on MC. Google says there's others too. Not happening with my laptop's 9200m GS, also Win 7-64.

I just upgraded on my 450. I haven't checked 7MC yet. I'll go that now. I use J River MC17 for all my playback so I don't much care, but, I would like to see if I get the issue. Andy, can you do me a favor...in the nVidia control panel, you know the screen where you set it to RGB or YCBCr? Under that there's an option for "Auto, Desktop, or Video". Set it to Video and try again. Then let me know either way if that affects anything. Don't ask. Just try it.

No, it doesn't. I had set it to "Desktop" as soon as I installed the driver, so you had me going there for a minute... what do you know about this option? I have no idea what it does, but I don't trust "auto", and "desktop" seems like what the default PC output should be.

I am glad this only went on one of my boxes. Does this problem occur if the new driver is not installed over a previous version? My box is 32 bit. I have 4 other Nvidia boxes here and only one has 64 on it.

It's an option that irritates me. I have to set it to video to get 1080i videos to play without dropping the connection to my Pio receiver. If I connect the 450 directly to the TV it works fine no matter how I set it. I have NO idea what it actually does in reality.

In any case, I know it doesn't work cause I also get the black screen BS win 7MC on my 450. That ain't good. Thanks, nVidia. Thanks a lot...Fortunately J River MC17 is not affected so I couldn't honestly care less.

FWIW I did an advanced install and chose to clean install it. So it uninstalled the old stuff before installing the new driver with defaults. Didn't seem to make a difference.

i upgrade whit out any problem, win7 x64, MSI 460, all videos play fine in MCenter, WMP and MPC-HC, I allways choice clean install

I've seen that reported before, that only clean install really worked to eliminate such issues.

FWIW, i had no issues whatsoever with these drivers, behavior of madVR even improved. Granted, i've never even looked at the shortcut of 7MC.

How did you fix it? If so ) having same problem here with GTX460 and GTX560, my Onkyo TX-SR608 playing only DTS core from DTS-HD MA. Screens also doesnt show support for DTS-HD and TrueHD.

I heard rumors that nVidia plans to release a new GTX 560 Ti based on the 570 core, perhaps that means there will be some GTX 560 Ti products that are not capable of full audio bitstreaming?

I can confirm that. The GTX560Ti will be build on GF110 core (present GTX560/GTX560Ti has core GF114) in two different versions.

The GTX560 is way too powerful to be a HTPC card anyway, also, decoding in the PC is the better alternative in any case.

Says who? Using an overclocked 560ti on my watercooled and completely silent HTPC to watch live tv + play battlefield 3.

Not just an HTPC then is it?

He didn't say it wasn't useable for an HTPC (ie: nothing more than playing media files), only that it was overkill. Kind of like buying a Zamboni for transportation because you get about 3 inches of snow per year.

Thats the point - a few member of this forum seem to believe they have a monopoly on the definition of an HTPC, which, obviously is absurd. HTPC is whatever you want it to be and this is exactly why we have it as our hobby.

Definitely not me. Actually there are lots of people who impose their own definition of HTPC on others. Any PC in a home theater room can be a HTPC. That being said, it's still a good idea to have a guide to selecting proper (depending on the purposes) hardware components for novices.

I don't recall saying you didn't have an HTPC. I said "not just an HTPC". Most would agree if I said a Ferrari was not just a car and that a V12 engine is overkill for most common driving purposes.

Obviously, you knew that you would get better performance from Battlefield 3 by purchasing the 560ti and made your purchase accordingly. I doubt that you purchased it over a 430 to improve basic video playback. As renethx said, it's important to have guidelines for those who don't know.

I never understood that expression, obviously i said it.
In any case, its a known fact with the current NVIDIA generation that the good gaming cards just don't support bitstreaming.

IMHO, if you want gaming, just forget about the idea of bitstreaming. Decode the audio in your HTPC, and use 8ch PCM output through HDMI. It doesn't get any better then that. (There is no upside to bitstreaming, the only difference is that it maybe takes an hour of extra setup to get decoding working properly.)

Don't forget the important benefit of having those little lights on your AVR illuminate.

Seriously though, I agree. There was a time when bitstreaming was important (as far as playback via computer was concerned) because of questionable decoding of HD audio formats. That time is past.

Separate ASUS Xonar Essence ST linked to an amp sorts it out much much better IMO, especially in case you have good speakers :-)

Not if you like your AVR's room correction and DSP settings. And not blowing a lot of money on an analog card that could be (in your case as per your posts above) better spent in an even more powerful gaming card.

BTW, if you're using a separate audio card then the discussion above is kinda moot for you, isn't it?

notice the "IMO" in my post :-)

Yeah, but note the "not if" in mine. I take it then, that you don't like an AVR's room correction and DSP.