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post #2971 of 4769
1/9/11 at 11:34am
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As I said before, I too have the audio issue on cold start up. It does seem to take longer to resolve itself each day. The video is distorted and the sound is choppy until it warms up. It is connected using HDMI1 to a cable box. Can anyone tell me if they DON'T have this problem or is it universal? TIA.

I don't have it since the repair guy replaced the logic board & an internal cable

I had talked w/TS & emailed a short video showing the problem in action on both HDMI (connected to dishtv box) & RGB inputs. They set up an in-house repair. It took care of the problem, haven't seen it happen since the repair.

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post #2972 of 4769
1/9/11 at 11:47am
I had some blooming issues using the CNET settings on my 42", but they became unnoticeable once I changed the backlight to 0 (I realize not everyone has rooms where this backlight setting is feasible though). I'm also using it in a very small room where extreme angles aren't even possible.
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post #2973 of 4769
1/9/11 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by knobe View Post

As I said before, I too have the audio issue on cold start up. It does seem to take longer to resolve itself each day. The video is distorted and the sound is choppy until it warms up. It is connected using HDMI1 to a cable box. Can anyone tell me if they DON'T have this problem or is it universal? TIA.

My first set had it big-time: lasted 15-20 minutes after switching it on! Its replacement does not have this problem but has blooming. If I recall correctly RX7_dude has faced both the issues in a single set, so the 2 issues seem to have independent causes.
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post #2974 of 4769
1/9/11 at 1:45pm
So with all the issues everyone seems to be having with blooming, would you guys recommend not getting this TV?
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post #2975 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by jordanjc View Post

So with all the issues everyone seems to be having with blooming, would you guys recommend not getting this TV?

The blooming for me is only during all-black backgrounds like movie credits, and even then mostly at off-angle viewing. Straight on it's not too bad at all, and to me at least, the picture quality is absolutely stunning. I'd buy it again even with the blooming. YMMV.
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post #2976 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by jordanjc View Post

So with all the issues everyone seems to be having with blooming, would you guys recommend not getting this TV?

If you're not on a budget then go and spend more money on better full array LED LCDTV sets, but if you want the best bang for your buck with so many online review's recommending this TV as the best buy for 2010, a slight blooming problem is tolerable.
Many LED LCDTV I checked before I took the plunge at this price point are all Edge Light LED not full array. In the end any purchase decision is really up to you and what makes you happy. Take advantage of the 30-90days return policy to see if you are satisfied with the product. If you find that you can't live with your purchase just return it, no harm done.
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post #2977 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by FAUguy View Post

Can I ask where that is and how long ago you purchased it?
The normal BJs that I go to near me has the XVT423SV (Full Array LED) for $980 and the lower model M421VT (Edge LED) for $750. But the BJs further south of me that is closing had the XVT423SV for $750 and the M421VT for $600, but they were sold out. If your BJs store still has the XVT423SV for $750, then I wonder why the other one here is $980. Even the WalMart store has it for that price here.

I got my XVT423SV Nov2010 - just before Thanksgiving here in NJ. At 1st I was ignoring this TV coz for a full array LED LCD it was priced cheap @799.00. I wrote the model number and did my research. When I saw that many are giving it positive reviews and was picked as 2010 best buy. I went back to BJ's only to find it all gone!!!
Then a week before Thanksgiving they brought them back out and it was $50 less from $799, I bought it right then and there, good thing I did coz by Dec 42", 47", and 53" were all gone...
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post #2978 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by Mikomotosan View Post

If you're not on a budget then go and spend more money on better full array LED LCDTV sets, but if you want the best bang for your buck with so many online review's recommending this TV as the best buy for 2010, a slight blooming problem is tolerable.
Many LED LCDTV I checked before I took the plunge at this price point are all Edge Light LED not full array. In the end any purchase decision is really up to you and what makes you happy. Take advantage of the 30-90days return policy to see if you are satisfied with the product. If you find that you can't live with your purchase just return it, no harm done.

Well, my budget is around $2000 so I think this Vizio is probably my best option in my price range. Are there any others that are better around that price? I'm already about to return my Panasonic VT25 so I'd REALLY rather not have to return this one. The LG LE8500 supposedly has great picture quality but that one has issues with banding...it seems like every LED has some kind of problem whether it be banding or blooming or whatever.
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post #2979 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by DustinR View Post

Thank you Mikomotosan. I tried these setting for HDMI cable TV and they are much better than the CNET settings I was using, IMO.

I'll try the settings with a bluray movie tomorrow. I would expect the same results though. Thanks for reposting the settings.

Dustin

Cool I guess great eyes sees alike, LOL!
Anyway, let me know how the ISF setting looks on bluray.

@Gratefull11...
I can still see the green hue even on HD with CNET's settings...it must be my eyes. I can't check on bluray, I don't have a player yet.
I wrote down both settings so I can test them both time and again
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post #2980 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by zstokes View Post

The blooming for me is only during all-black backgrounds like movie credits, and even then mostly at off-angle viewing. Straight on it's not too bad at all, and to me at least, the picture quality is absolutely stunning. I'd buy it again even with the blooming. YMMV.

Not too bad at all, but is it distracting? I'm one of those people that when I notice something wrong with the picture, I can't help but focus on it and it eventually becomes very distracting and annoying.
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post #2981 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:51pm
@jordanjc -

what is wrong with the Panasonic?
LED technology is still fairly new, hence all the bugs that still needs ironing out. It will get better.
If you're don't care about energy consumption - Vierra's are known for great plasma performers. My friend from work got his 42" Pana Vierra for just $480.
Plasma still has advantage when it come to blacks & color fidelity. New plasma TV's have already overcome the burn in issues and their energy consumption are also lightly better (upper 200w...it used to be upper 300w).
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post #2982 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by jordanjc View Post

Not too bad at all, but is it distracting?

I'm afraid I can't answer that for you.

For example, I'm currently loading a huge update for NitoTV on my aTV Flash, and it's an all black background, I'm viewing at approx 30 degrees off axis, and I can see just a very slight bloom. It actually seems to be worse for me on movie credits.....perhaps because they're in motion?
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post #2983 of 4769
1/9/11 at 2:59pm
["Television sets have turned the corner toward the level of technical complexity that will cause great problems for those people that are not steeped in knowledge and experience with modern electronics. Apparently, it is even a serious problem even for the young turks that are deeply involved with computers and other gadgetry in their everyday lives. Just look at the stories on the AVS Forum.

Sometimes, I suspect, the answers lie in a thick unread manual. Other times, perhaps, the manufacturers fail to communicate potential issues in any manner. Whichever is the case, the matter means increased cost to the industry as they struggle to deal with the confusion and upset caused by their highly complex products."

The days of loading up the television in the car and taking to the local TV repair shop for a relatively quick fix are over. This is why I try and stay away from first generation technology and products. There are just too many kinks that need to be ironed out. My father unintentionally taught me a good lesson when he bought a first model year 1979 Ford Fairmont. That hunk of metal was a rolling catastrophe and my father vowed never to purchase a car the first year it rolls off the line. I guess that always stuck with me.

Should I view LED televisions in general at the moment as basically first gen and wait another year? I'm not sure.
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post #2984 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by jordanjc View Post

Not too bad at all, but is it distracting? I'm one of those people that when I notice something wrong with the picture, I can't help but focus on it and it eventually becomes very distracting and annoying.

...it's distracting if you like watching very dark movies or the film credits...

You won't see blooming on TVHD channels, unless you're watching sideways...
Bluray...I can't comment until I get a player.
DVD -I saw a slight blooming watching a very dark scene on Spiderman 1
Netflix - I see blooming on very dark scenes especially on old movies or on older TV series...
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post #2985 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by Mikomotosan View Post

@jordanjc -

what is wrong with the Panasonic?
LED technology is still fairly new, hence all the bugs that still needs ironing out. It will get better.
If you're don't care about energy consumption - Vierra's are known for great plasma performers. My friend from work got his 42" Pana Vierra for just $480.
Plasma still has advantage when it come to blacks & color fidelity. New plasma TV's have already overcome the burn in issues and their energy consumption are also lightly better (upper 200w...it used to be upper 300w).

The VT25 has an annoying buzzing sound coming from it. It's probably normal for a plasma TV but I can't deal with it, it's really distracting when a scene gets quiet. I know LED is still new technology so I guess that's why I'm a little worried about dropping $2k on it and having to put up with the annoying blooming/banding issues that come with it.
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post #2986 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by jordanjc View Post

The VT25 has an annoying buzzing sound coming from it. It's probably normal for a plasma TV but I can't deal with it, it's really distracting when a scene gets quiet. I know LED is still new technology so I guess that's why I'm a little worried about dropping $2k on it and having to put up with the annoying blooming/banding issues that come with it.

Aside from the buzzing hows the picture quality on it? Is it truly stunning as pretty much everyone has said? VT25 was and still is on my mind. Let us know, if you end up getting the Vizio XVT, how it compares with the VT25. I would definitely be interested.
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post #2987 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by htpw16 View Post

Aside from the buzzing hows the picture quality on it? Is it truly stunning as pretty much everyone has said? VT25 was and still is on my mind. Let us know, if you end up getting the Vizio XVT, how it compares with the VT25. I would definitely be interested.

The picture quality is the best I've ever seen, extremely deep black levels and great color. Watched Avatar in 3D from start to finish and saw zero crosstalk. It's a bummer that it buzzes like a beehive because the picture just looks outstanding.
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post #2988 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by htpw16 View Post

Aside from the buzzing hows the picture quality on it? Is it truly stunning as pretty much everyone has said? VT25 was and still is on my mind. Let us know, if you end up getting the Vizio XVT, how it compares with the VT25. I would definitely be interested.

I would also be interested in knowing, as this is the alternative I am seriously considering if things do not work for me with Vizio XVT553SV. I've heard that the buzzing on Plasmas is more pronounced at higher altitude--could you indicate your location?
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post #2989 of 4769
1/9/11 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by 88ronin View Post

With the HDMI connection between the TV and receiver, would you still need the Toslink audio between your blu-ray player and the receiver? ... or does the blu-ray player transmit audio via HDMI to the TV, which in turn transmits the audio via HDMI to the receiver?

In this case, the ARC capability is between the TV and the receiver where the video is able to go from the receiver to the TV and the audio is going in the opposite direction from the TV to the receiver with only one HDMI cable and no need for a toslink cable. With blu-ray, the Toslink connection will not allow for the new HD audio codecs, thus if your receiver will allow for it, you should use the audio via HDMI between the blu-ray and the receiver and then HDMI from the receiver to the TV. With your proposed set up, you may be losing the ability to utilize the HD audio available on the blu-ray player.

There is much more separation on the audio channels on blu-ray and in my option, and depending on setup and content, has a larger impact to the movie watching experience than the improved video. Try changing your set up and see if you can observe a difference. Hope this helps...
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post #2990 of 4769
1/9/11 at 4:20pm
@jordanjc -

I bought a Plasma TV before(until it got stolen) I heard no buzzing sound. My brother in law bought a Pana plasma as well (2007) it also has no buzzing sound. Could it be just that specific TV? I know they produce heat but I don't hear any buzzing on any of my friends that owns a plasma TV.
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post #2991 of 4769
1/9/11 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Mikomotosan View Post

@jordanjc -

I bought a Plasma TV before(until it got stolen) I heard no buzzing sound. My brother in law bought a Pana plasma as well (2007) it also has no buzzing sound. Could it be just that specific TV? I know they produce heat but I don't hear any buzzing on any of my friends that owns a plasma TV.

It could just be a defective TV, I'm not sure. Supposedly all plasma TVs buzz but you're not supposed to be able to hear it over normal volume levels. In THX mode, the buzzing definitely seems to be abnormally loud. In Standard mode (which is dimmer), it's still definitely noticeable but a bit quieter. A lot on people on this forum have reported hearing the buzzing on the VT25 and have sent it back because of it so I'm not the only one.

@pgm I'm in New Orleans.
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post #2992 of 4769
1/9/11 at 4:40pm
Anyone interested: -

Kevin R. Anderson - ISF Certified seems to have done lots of calibration adjustments and test on XVT3SV. You can follow his post below and he basically talked about colors, hue, blacks, gray levels, gamma, blooming... etc.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=16708734

It's good reading and it answers most of the recent questions that had been asked before concerning this TV...
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post #2993 of 4769
1/9/11 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by Mikomotosan View Post

Anyone interested: -

Kevin R. Anderson - ISF Certified seems to have done lots of calibration adjustments and test on XVT3SV. You can follow his post below and he basically talked about colors, hue, blacks, gray levels, gamma, blooming... etc.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=16708734

It's good reading and it answers most of the recent questions that had been asked before concerning this TV...

Link no workie for me.
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post #2994 of 4769
1/9/11 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by SharksFan98 View Post

Link no workie for me.

go to PAGE 27 - click his name and select "find more post by Kevin R. Anderson" it will show all his post...i read most of it. Specially the Vizio vs Sony comparison.
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post #2995 of 4769
1/9/11 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Mikomotosan View Post

go to PAGE 27 - click his name and select "find more post by Kevin R. Anderson" it will show all his post...i read most of it. Specially the Vizio vs Sony comparison.

Yeah, where are those ISF settings you're referring to, and where is that comparison with Sony? Sorry, but he has over 1300 posts, and I just want to take a quick look without searching for it.

There is a "LINK" button on the top right of every post. You can click on that to get the URL of any specific post in order to cut and paste it here.
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post #2996 of 4769
1/9/11 at 5:35pm
another XVT3SV review:
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/VIZIO_X...DTV_Review.htm

@88Ronin -

I just read his post from page 22 to 28...he talks about Sony blacks & Vizio blacks and so on...page27 is where he share his ISF settings...
It's not just him - reading the earlier posts, many of other members have already discussed topics that we are currently talking about now.
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post #2997 of 4769
1/9/11 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by PioneerSC37 View Post

Was able to download the firmware last night after I unplugged the TV and plugged it back in. The ARC is working on my Pioneer SC37 receiver. The issues with this TV must be random as I have had my XVT553SV set since the end of August and it has an absolutely beautiful picture. It was assembled in Mexico and am using the CNET settings with just a little higher backlight setting. If you are reading this and wondering if this set is worth a purchase, I would highly recommend it. Keep in mind that not all owners of this TV know about or for that matter post to this Forum. Those that do are many times looking for feedback or answers to problems. So you could never claim a percentage of TV's that have issues by the posts on this forum as only a very small percentage of owners will ever visit this forum and those that do are many time researching issues which bias the feedback. I have a friend that has a 552 and has never adjusted the TV from the factory settings and would never visit this forum. When I suggested he research settings for his TV, his statement was that it should be perfect out of the box and should not need to adjust it. You would be surprised how few HD TV owners have even bothered to insure they are watching HD content, even though a lot of content is free for the taking with just a set of "rabbit ears". Many that had Dish or DirectTV prior to HD are just watching SD through their old receiver on their new HD TV. Before I converted to Uverse recently, I was in this mode but watched OTA in HD, but unlike many I was informed about what I was watching. Many do not have a clue. My reasoning was I did not want a commitment to Dish to convert to new hardware when I found out that Uverse was coming. By the way, SD does look pretty good on this set as well. In my opinion, Vizio has by far the most bang for the buck, the slight blooming you might see when watching credits is a none issue, who the heck watches credits anyway. This is not a fair way to judge this set as 99.9% of the time you are watching content other than movie credits and when watching regular content, this set is awesome!! Just my 2 cents...

QFT... Nobody said it just watching credits. I dont know how many posts you have read in this thread, but the samples that I have and others have provided are actually a pretty fair way to judge this set. Im not saying everyone's is as bad as mine but alot are. At this point if my replacement does not fix the blooming I will go to edge lit, CCFL or Plasma. Im not gonna drop the kind of money that other manufactures want on their local dimming units.
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1/9/11 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post

QFT... Nobody said it just watching credits. I dont know how many posts you have read in this thread, but the samples that I have and others have provided are actually a pretty fair way to judge this set. Im not saying everyone's is as bad as mine but alot are. At this point if my replacement does not fix the blooming I will go to edge lit, CCFL or Plasma. Im not gonna drop the kind of money that other manufactures want on their local dimming units.

I love the 553. Had it since August 2010 and it's been fantastic. Blooming is only noticed by me during rolling credits and I don't care about that. I don't see any blooming on this set during real world watching including OTA/Directv/Blu-ray.

I'm not sure about the word "alot" as people who have problems tend to voice them in forums such as this. Folks who like their sets tend to stay away.

Of course plasma does have it's own issues.

If you are sensitive to the picture on this set, I would suggest going plasma as I have not seen any LCD set that is without some sort of blooming.
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1/9/11 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by cawgijoe View Post

I love the 553. Had it since August 2010 and it's been fantastic. Blooming is only noticed by me during rolling credits and I don't care about that. I don't see any blooming on this set during real world watching including OTA/Directv/Blu-ray.

I'm not sure about the word "alot" as people who have problems tend to voice them in forums such as this. Folks who like their sets tend to stay away.

Of course plasma does have it's own issues.

If you are sensitive to the picture on this set, I would suggest going plasma as I have not seen any LCD set that is without some sort of blooming.

I have. CCFL and Edge Lit do not have blooming, They have their own issues of course with flashlighting etc. But not blooming, the blooming comes from the locally dimmed zones brighting up while the rest of the zones are black. Also I am not sensitive to the pic, it looks fantastic when there is not a high contrast scene. I have said that numerous times, if it didnt look so good I would have chucked this thing along time ago. I Try watching a horror film or a movie with alot of dark scenes with high contrast and I want to rip my eyes out.
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1/9/11 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post

I have. CCFL and Edge Lit do not have blooming, They have their own issues of course with flashlighting etc. But not blooming, the blooming comes from the locally dimmed zones brighting up while the rest of the zones are black. Also I am not sensitive to the pic, it looks fantastic when there is not a high contrast scene. I have said that numerous times, if it didnt look so good I would have chucked this thing along time ago. I Try watching a horror film or a movie with alot of dark scenes with high contrast and I want to rip my eyes out.

Duly corrected......edge-lit sets have uniformity issues and CCFL's blacks are not as good...at least to me.

Ripping your eyes out is not a good thing!

I'm wondering if going plasma might be the best for you?
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