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post #3241 of 4768
Yep, tried that.. Had football on yesterday, running through the receiver.. turned the receiver off and volume on TV up to 100.. nada... silent.... turned it back down to 20, turned TV off, then on and it works again.

Good thing I saved my box. Just a pain to return it.

Thanks for the suggestion.

JK
post #3242 of 4768
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Originally Posted by SharksFan98 View Post

Can't we all get along? ;-)

Is anyone's blooming WORSE than the videos I've posted in my signature?

After 45 minutes, with only 28 seconds of your video loaded, the video stopped working. So I did not get to see the full production. :-((

Did try though...

Tom
post #3243 of 4768
I can honestly say that I don't see this type of blooming in dark scenes on my 553.

I can see where the fireplace light is reflecting off faces and objects, but the ghostly look of faces......no.

I have not seen that even in films such as some of the Harry Potter's where there are alot of scenes shot at night.

I don't know if this helps anyone, but I use the Cnet settings.....the only deviation is that I am using the smooth motion either on low or medium (sports)........I do not use the Adaptive Luma setting
as I've found this tends to enhance blooming.

We have watched many hours of all kinds of programming including OTA/Directv/Blu-ray and have been very happy with the performance of this set. To me it's a great value for the money and I would buy it again.

I would honestly say that if you are having issues with any set that you buy and can't "cure" or find a happy medium with setting adjustments, please return it and find something else to make you happy. If you are not happy now.....you won't be happy in the future.
post #3244 of 4768
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Originally Posted by SharksFan98 View Post

Can't we all get along? ;-)

Is anyone's blooming WORSE than the videos I've posted in my signature?

I want your internet connection
post #3245 of 4768
I know you guys are jumping all over us guys that took this Vizio back because our sets were faulty I wanted this tv to work for me..so much that I tried a second set....
but listen to yourselves fellas...the last 25 pages of this thread has been almost nothing but alot of people complaining about problems with this tv and trying to come up with fixes to make the tv right.

IMO a TV should work correctly when purchased new.

You shouldn't have to turn off almost every widget and function to get it to not freeze up & try every other crazy setting to try and get rid of blooming and try different cords and accessories so it starts up correctly.
post #3246 of 4768
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Originally Posted by guitardedboy View Post

but listen to yourselves fellas...the last 25 pages of this thread has been almost nothing but alot of people complaining about problems with this tv and trying to come up with fixes to make the tv right.

But if you look...count the actual number of people having those problems...not the pages.

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Originally Posted by guitardedboy View Post

You shouldn't have to turn off almost every widget and function to get it to not freeze up & try every other crazy setting to try and get rid of blooming and try different cords and accessories so it starts up correctly.

Agreed...and most don't.
post #3247 of 4768
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Originally Posted by guitardedboy View Post

I know you guys are jumping all over us guys that took this Vizio back because our sets were faulty I wanted this tv to work for me..so much that I tried a second set....

IMO a TV should work correctly when purchased new.

Funny you should say that. I wanted the Samsung LN55C650 to work for me as well... so much so that I tried 2 of them as well. And I too, think a TV should work correctly when purchased new.

I wanted my 3rd try at a large screen to be my last, so I did more research and readings and decided to give Vizio a try based on all the good reviews. The difference between those two LN55C650s I tried and my 553 is dramatic. All the reviews were spot on and I couldn't be happier with the Vizio we have now. And the thing is, less than 2 months ago I used to be a big Samsung fan and thought that Vizio was an inferior "off-brand".

So am I a Vizio fan boy? Not in the least.

Do I just want a TV that lives up to all the glowing reviews written out there about it regardless of brand? Most definitely. And this is exactly what I got with the Vizio.

Blooming? Seriously, I really don't see it on mine. If it was there, I would have brought it up. Like I said, I just want a TV that works. If there was a problem, I would have moved on and exchanged it by now.


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Originally Posted by guitardedboy View Post

but listen to yourselves fellas...the last 25 pages of this thread has been almost nothing but alot of people complaining about problems with this tv and trying to come up with fixes to make the tv right.

You shouldn't have to turn off almost every widget and function to get it to not freeze up & try every other crazy setting to try and get rid of blooming and try different cords and accessories so it starts up correctly.

You're absolutely right... the last 25 pages of complaints posted by a few repetitive complainers totally negates all the numerous positive reviews out there written by people who review HDTVs for a living
post #3248 of 4768
Hello,
Wow, you can really get caught up in this thread. LOTS of info and much appreciate all the things that I read. Just like almost everyone of you I am deciding between a couple of different sets but am very close on deciding on getting the 553. Other one is samsung pn58c7000. My question is about the blooming issue and vertical angle.
Even with the comments about blooming I was comfortable in still buying this set, given all the positive reviews. And I do realize that there will be issues with any TV. My concern now is recent comments suggesting that the blooming is at its worst when mounted on the wall and tilted down....which is exactly were mine will be. Mounted about 4 feet up with it being tilted down a bit. So eye level from the couch is about at the bottom of the TV. Am I reading into the comments correctly that blooming may be the worst in this setup? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially from the people that have this type of setup.
Thanks
post #3249 of 4768
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Originally Posted by NWSD View Post

Hello,
Wow, you can really get caught up in this thread. LOTS of info and much appreciate all the things that I read. Just like almost everyone of you I am deciding between a couple of different sets but am very close on deciding on getting the 553. Other one is samsung pn58c7000. My question is about the blooming issue and vertical angle.
Even with the comments about blooming I was comfortable in still buying this set, given all the positive reviews. And I do realize that there will be issues with any TV. My concern now is recent comments suggesting that the blooming is at its worst when mounted on the wall and tilted down....which is exactly were mine will be. Mounted about 4 feet up with it being tilted down a bit. So eye level from the couch is about at the bottom of the TV. Am I reading into the comments correctly that blooming may be the worst in this setup? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially from the people that have this type of setup.
Thanks

By the description of vertical angle issues posted earlier, if the line of site and the plane of the screen are perpendicular(or close to it), you should not have a problem.
post #3250 of 4768
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Originally Posted by 88ronin View Post

You're absolutely right... the last 25 pages of complaints posted by a few repetitive complainers totally negates all the numerous positive reviews out there written by people who review HDTVs for a living

Oh I thought we were done mudslinging for a bit. But anyway, As I said before it does not matter how many positive reviews a set has when you are the one with a faulty unit. It does not matter if said reviewer does it for a living when you are the one with a faulty unit. Why in the later part of this thread do we have blooming discussions when there is barely talk in the beginning.... As I said before maybe the panels are differant now, where did the reviewers get their panels? When did they get them? Did they come hand picked from Vizio? And dont think that any company is above doing something like sending top end hand picked units to reviewers, it happens alot esp in the computer world. But I'm just speculating.

In regards to reboot issues. I have had them on and off but nothing major although I dont really use many of the apps except pandora. There is a whole other thread about the Random Vizio Reboot with quite a few pages of troubleshooting and advice. (Probably what we should of done with the blooming issues as well).
post #3251 of 4768
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Originally Posted by SharksFan98 View Post

Can't we all get along? ;-)

Is anyone's blooming WORSE than the videos I've posted in my signature?

I'm no pro or anything, but on my set, it is worse when watching Netflix streams. Watching BD content, I never get the blooming. I also notice more blooming at 45*, but when does anyone watch a TV @ this angle? I also have the TV on a stand that puts eye level @ 1/3 from the bottom. I have a huge U-shaped couch, and the most extreme angel is 30*. The blooming isn't bad @ this angle.

I guess I have to side with the posters that wonder why one would keep a set if they are having so many problems and hate it so much. I've had problems with Sharps and my first 551 Vizio. You bet I returned them after trying to find a fix for a week. I'm not sure, but Josh211, are you the only one left with two sets that hates it so much? I see Guitar returned his and loves his new set. That's great for him. You should so the same and be happy. Life is too short to watch bad TV!
post #3252 of 4768
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post
Oh I thought we were done mudslinging for a bit. But anyway, As I said before it does not matter how many positive reviews a set has when you are the one with a faulty unit. It does not matter if said reviewer does it for a living when you are the one with a faulty unit. Why in the later part of this thread do we have blooming discussions when there is barely talk in the beginning.... As I said before maybe the panels are differant now, where did the reviewers get their panels? When did they get them? Did they come hand picked from Vizio? And dont think that any company is above doing something like sending top end hand picked units to reviewers, it happens alot esp in the computer world. But I'm just speculating.
This is one of the reasons why I mentioned Chad B, the well known ISF calibrator. Do you think he went got a hand picked unit as well?
post #3253 of 4768
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
This is one of the reasons why I mentioned Chad B, the well known ISF calibrator. Do you think he went got a hand picked unit as well?
I dont know. No... Probably not. It was just a thought as I mentioned dont turn it into anything more then that.
post #3254 of 4768
joshman211....did you miss this?

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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
OK...so you like the TV except for the blooming.

How does your set compare to Sharkfan's videos?
What do you think of Sharkfan's videos?
post #3255 of 4768
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Originally Posted by grpape View Post
I'm no pro or anything, but on my set, it is worse when watching Netflix streams. Watching BD content, I never get the blooming. I also notice more blooming at 45*, but when does anyone watch a TV @ this angle? I also have the TV on a stand that puts eye level @ 1/3 from the bottom. I have a huge U-shaped couch, and the most extreme angel is 30*. The blooming isn't bad @ this angle.

I guess I have to side with the posters that wonder why one would keep a set if they are having so many problems and hate it so much. I've had problems with Sharps and my first 551 Vizio. You bet I returned them after trying to find a fix for a week. I'm not sure, but Josh211, are you the only one left with two sets that hates it so much? I see Guitar returned his and loves his new set. That's great for him. You should so the same and be happy. Life is too short to watch bad TV!

You asked the same question as chang did earlier and it was responded to. Dont go throwing around words like hate when I never said once "I HATE THIS SET!" because I did not. If you go back to my posts and even the pics I posted of the blooming issues. I have said some scenes this set produces and incredible picture when blooming does not exist. Why does blooming not exist on some scenes where it probably should (high contrast on dark background). This is why i think its a firmware issue. But then again I my second set did not have it as bad as the first so that kinda leaves out firmware I would think, but then brings into question the quality of panels and just having luck.

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I'm no pro or anything, but on my set, it is worse when watching Netflix streams. Watching BD content, I never get the blooming.
I would imagine this has more to do with the content your watching then anything else. All my tests were in Netflix and BD content. I can see it on both but again its alway been the content not the source.
post #3256 of 4768
joshman...have you listed the settings you are using on both sets?
post #3257 of 4768
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
This is one of the reasons why I mentioned Chad B, the well known ISF calibrator. Do you think he went got a hand picked unit as well?
Chad hasn't done a full review yet, has he? I've always enjoyed his reviews but I think he has only done a quick peak so far. Or did I miss it?
post #3258 of 4768
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post
Chad hasn't done a full review yet, has he? I've always enjoyed his reviews but I think he has only done a quick peak so far. Or did I miss it?
Not a full on review....just observations while calibrating one.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19829814
post #3259 of 4768
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Originally Posted by 88ronin View Post
So how many grand total points are you giving the 553 in that comparison table on your site? I want to see where it ranks as per your subjective (but informed) opinion

http://hdtvbychadb.com/reviews.htm
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Thanks, glad to do it!
I'd like to get some time with it in a dark room first so I can get a handle on the haloing and contrast. Though I suspect those things will be very much like the LG LH90 that I'm very familiar with.
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post
Chad hasn't done a full review yet, has he? I've always enjoyed his reviews but I think he has only done a quick peak so far. Or did I miss it?

I think he's still working on his final review.
post #3260 of 4768
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Originally Posted by NWSD View Post
Hello,
Wow, you can really get caught up in this thread. LOTS of info and much appreciate all the things that I read. Just like almost everyone of you I am deciding between a couple of different sets but am very close on deciding on getting the 553. Other one is samsung pn58c7000. My question is about the blooming issue and vertical angle.
Even with the comments about blooming I was comfortable in still buying this set, given all the positive reviews. And I do realize that there will be issues with any TV. My concern now is recent comments suggesting that the blooming is at its worst when mounted on the wall and tilted down....which is exactly were mine will be. Mounted about 4 feet up with it being tilted down a bit. So eye level from the couch is about at the bottom of the TV. Am I reading into the comments correctly that blooming may be the worst in this setup? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially from the people that have this type of setup.
Thanks
I made some of the comments you refer to. I just rewatched the scene from "The Gauntlet" that looked horrible before I adjusted the tilt on our wall mount down a few more degrees. While the blooming was still there, it was not particularly objectionable. In fact, I watched the scene from various horizontal (normal) viewing angles and the blooming never became bad. Now if I ducked down, YUCK! So, I think I've determined why there is so much variation in the reported blooming on these sets. It does appear that they may be VERY sensitive to vertical viewing angles with respect to blooming. I believe you will find that if you adjust the tilt such that you are looking down at the vertical plane of the set ever so slightly, you will be ok. At least, that is my current belief. I'm not 100% done playing yet but I'm greatly relieved by this relevation with respect to my set... FWIW
post #3261 of 4768
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Originally Posted by Tom the Piddler View Post
After 45 minutes, with only 28 seconds of your video loaded, the video stopped working. So I did not get to see the full production. :-((

Did try though...

Tom
Slow Internet or what? You can change the stream to standard def if that helps.
post #3262 of 4768
Okay, I've read literally this entire thread, tried to help some out, etc. I'd like to say I'm in no way a fanboy of this set, and so on. I'm currently almost completely happy with it, and I've only seen blooming once or twice in my entire run using it for almost a month in extreme amounts. Once in Inception in one scene in the beginning for about 25 seconds, and second for about 15 seconds in Blade Runner's opening scenes but it was subtle.

Motion may be a little choppier on mine than on most peoples, but that's a small price to pay for the color, blacks, whites, and so on.

The point I'm getting to is, frankly, I don't need to show you proof. I think its ridiculously insulting for you to even imply any of us are vizio fanboys and are just pretending to not have the issues you are. You're coming to our thread, insulting us, all these different things, then you're surprised when people react sour?

Now please, as others have said, there is a very simple solution. Nobody here can offer any insight into fixing the issues you have. You've tried various settings I assume, and you've tried making the set perpendicular to your eye-line, so please, if you can deal with the blooming, keep it, if you can't, return it. It really is that simple, and I promise, I'm not some exec from vizio demanding you keep your set.

I'm just an honest guy giving my two cents,

-Vader
post #3263 of 4768
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Originally Posted by Vader182 View Post
Okay, I've read literally this entire thread, tried to help some out, etc. I'd like to say I'm in no way a fanboy of this set, and so on. I'm currently almost completely happy with it, and I've only seen blooming once or twice in my entire run using it for almost a month in extreme amounts. Once in Inception in one scene in the beginning for about 25 seconds, and second for about 15 seconds in Blade Runner's opening scenes but it was subtle.

Motion may be a little choppier on mine than on most peoples, but that's a small price to pay for the color, blacks, whites, and so on.

The point I'm getting to is, frankly, I don't need to show you proof. I think its ridiculously insulting for you to even imply any of us are vizio fanboys and are just pretending to not have the issues you are. You're coming to our thread, insulting us, all these different things, then you're surprised when people react sour?

Now please, as others have said, there is a very simple solution. Nobody here can offer any insight into fixing the issues you have. You've tried various settings I assume, and you've tried making the set perpendicular to your eye-line, so please, if you can deal with the blooming, keep it, if you can't, return it. It really is that simple, and I promise, I'm not some exec from vizio demanding you keep your set.

I'm just an honest guy giving my two cents,

-Vader
I'm coming to our thread? What does that mean? Insulting? What did I say to you? Stop crying nobody was referring to you. The beef between me and the other guy id suspect is over lets move on.
post #3264 of 4768
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post
I'm coming to our thread? What does that mean? Insulting? What did I say to you? Stop crying nobody was referring to you. The beef between me and the other guy id suspect is over lets move on.
I say our thread under the context of the general users of this television that routinely come in here. This is what I mean, I feel my post was at least respectful, and you're saying inflammatory remarks about me crying and this and that, and you didn't address my main point that everyone else seems to be telling you: if you can stand the blooming, great, if not, return it for either another model, or a different tv in the same range, and if you need help finding one the people on this board are usually more than happy to help.

-Vader
post #3265 of 4768
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Originally Posted by Vader182 View Post
I say our thread under the context of the general users of this television that routinely come in here. This is what I mean, I feel my post was at least respectful, and you're saying inflammatory remarks about me crying and this and that, and you didn't address my main point that everyone else seems to be telling you: if you can stand the blooming, great, if not, return it for either another model, or a different tv in the same range, and if you need help finding one the people on this board are usually more than happy to help.

-Vader
As it stands until they go back I have both of them. I will continue to stay here like it or not.
post #3266 of 4768
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post
The beef between me and the other guy id suspect is over lets move on.
There was never any beef on my end. Your frustration with the TVs, and you not moving on is just odd. I just keep asking questions that you don't want to answer....

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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
What do you think of Sharkfan's videos?
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
joshman...have you listed the settings you are using on both sets?
And I will add one more:

What type of vertical angle are you viewing the TV's?
post #3267 of 4768
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post
As it stands until they go back I have both of them. I will continue to stay here like it or not.
Hey, all I'm saying is be constructive. You keep posting the same things and getting the same answers. I guess my general question is, why if you have such a problem with the blooming, are you keeping the sets?
post #3268 of 4768
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
There was never any beef on my end. Your frustration with the TVs, and you not moving on is just odd. I just keep asking questions that you don't want to answer....





And I will add one more:

What type of vertical angle are you viewing the TV's?
Im at work cant see the videos and dont have them in front of me.
post #3269 of 4768
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Originally Posted by rookie555 View Post
There is a setting that tries to keep your volume level steady (not get louder during commercials, etc...) and it works very poorly IMHO. It seems to take silent or quiet scenes and set that as the baseline and then when people start talking again you can't hear them at all.
I totally agree. It's like this on all my Vizio sets bought in the last 3 years. I espicially wanted this for the bedroom but it makes it worse. People talking go from a whisper quiet to the next scene with music and noise blasting. There are scenes that get so quiet I can't even hear them. My 4 year old 52" Vizio worked fine but from then on something is messed up. My 37", 42" and 55" don't work correctly.
post #3270 of 4768
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Originally Posted by joshman211 View Post
Im at work cant see the videos and dont have them in front of me.
You have been asking for examples from others, the videos have been posted for 3 days, and you haven't bothered looking at them?

How high is the 553 that is mounted? Do you look up at it when viewing?
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