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post #4441 of 4768
8/22/11 at 6:04am
i lost my widgets. i never, ever use them, but i was messing around with the tv this morning and nothing's there.

i used to have pandora, "tune-in" radio, and a couple of other things. now they're not there and there's nothing in the "widget gallery." is it me?
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post #4442 of 4768
8/22/11 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by davidsross View Post

Hi,

Would anyone here be able to supply me with the proper codeset to use for a Vizio XVT553SA TV's remote so it works properly with a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR (Cablevision)? I've run through (seemingly) all available codesets within the "Cable Box" section (nothing in the "DVR" section seemed appropriate -- the closest one, codeset 110, did nothing). I've found some that allow the LIST button to bring up the list of recorded programs but disable the fast forward/rewind buttons and the A/B/C/D colored buttons, some that allow the fast forward/rewind and the A/B/C/D colored buttons to work but disable the LIST button, and some with variations thereof. However, I can't find one that allows the LIST button to bring up the list of recorded programs, the A/B/C/D buttons to work (so I can delete recordings after watching them), and the fast forward/rewind buttons to work.

Thanks.

Well, it seems I get to answer my own question!

Code 161 seems to work. Don't know why it didn't when I tried it a few months ago, but it does now.

David Ross
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post #4443 of 4768
8/22/11 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by sarspants View Post

Never thought of routing everything through the TV first. I guess I would be a little concerned with losing audio quality...

Just like component analog HD can have as good of PQ as digital HDMI can, analog audio can have as good of quality as digital audio can. Of course everything has to be working correctly, but its hard for much to go wrong with a couple of audio cables in a consumer environment. Plus, digital audio brings with it a host of other headaches we never had to deal with before.

But there are a couple of other things to consider:

1) analog doesn't support 5.1 DD in most instances
2) some TVs will input 5.1 just fine, but then not pass it on to the TV's output and then to the AVR.

If you need 5.1, then either of those could be a deal breaker.

I have not moved to 5.1 yet, even though all of my components and AVR support it, because I feel many of the glitches are not worked out; there are posts every day about problems with losing audio, audio artifacts, reclocking issues, etc. Plus I have heard 5.1 at a lot of different venues including other people's home theatre setups, and it never really has impressed me any more than good old 2.0 through Pro Logic IIx 7.1. Not only that, I don't think producers really mix well for 5.1 nor do they put much effort into it.

So if I am giving anything up there, what I am gaining in return is the ability to use a 31-band graphic equalizer and a automatic level controller. I get some of that in the GEQ in my AVR, but it is only 5 band, and the analog level controller seems to work better than the AC-3 compr and dynrng features in my AVR. Digital audio on the consumer level needs another 3-4 years of maturation before I will consider moving there.
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post #4444 of 4768
8/23/11 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by TomCat View Post
1) analog doesn't support 5.1 DD in most instances
2) some TVs will input 5.1 just fine, but then not pass it on to the TV's output and then to the AVR.[/indent]
If you need 5.1, then either of those could be a deal breaker.

I have not moved to 5.1 yet, even though all of my components and AVR support it, because I feel many of the glitches are not worked out; there are posts every day about problems with losing audio, audio artifacts, reclocking issues, etc. Plus I have heard 5.1 at a lot of different venues including other people's home theatre setups, and it never really has impressed me any more than good old 2.0 through Pro Logic IIx 7.1. Not only that, I don't think producers really mix well for 5.1 nor do they put much effort into it.

So if I am giving anything up there, what I am gaining in return is the ability to use a 31-band graphic equalizer and a automatic level controller. I get some of that in the GEQ in my AVR, but it is only 5 band, and the analog level controller seems to work better than the AC-3 compr and dynrng features in my AVR. Digital audio on the consumer level needs another 3-4 years of maturation before I will consider moving there.
DD 5.1 only works with digital input, not analog.

As for the problems you read about, those are far and few between. Dolby Digital has been stable for almost 10 years. Most of what you are reading about has to do with the newer codecs such as DD+ and DTS-HD....again, not really a lot of problems.

Producers don't do the mixing, it is done by sound engineers, and it is pretty much a standard now as well. I suspect you are not impressed by what you have heard due to poorly set up systems.

As for eq systems, I guess it really depends on what you are trying to achieve, but would take the modern automatic room correction systems in most AVRs now over a graphic equalizer.

Set yourself up for plain old DD 5.1, do it right, and you won't experience any of those problems you listed.
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post #4445 of 4768
8/25/11 at 9:38am
At CES, Vizio announced they would support Skype on their sets - but they seem to have gone radio silent on this since then. Anyone with any info on whether this is still coming?
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post #4446 of 4768
8/25/11 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by mdeluca View Post

At CES, Vizio announced they would support Skype on their sets - but they seem to have gone radio silent on this since then. Anyone with any info on whether this is still coming?

That would be so cool!
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post #4447 of 4768
8/26/11 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
...Producers don't do the mixing, it is done by sound engineers, and it is pretty much a standard now as well. I suspect you are not impressed by what you have heard due to poorly set up systems.

As for eq systems, I guess it really depends on what you are trying to achieve, but would take the modern automatic room correction systems in most AVRs now over a graphic equalizer...
Auto correction seems sorely lacking to me, and they don't normally equalize, they set levels and delay times. If they did I doubt they could do it as well as professionally trained ears anyway. I am not trying to equalize for the room, the room should impart whatever natural character the room has, just as it imparts its natural character to a live conversation inside that room. I am equalizing for the speakers, which always need it no matter how much you may have spent for them. Accepting what off-the shelf speakers give you straight out of the box is like buying off the rack at the Men's Wearhouse, while good EQ is like having $12,000 suits professionally tailored.

And thanks for the clarification, Captain Obvious, of course Producers don't directly mix audio, just like they don't directly edit on the Avid NLE or physically splice the film; its surprising that anyone might take that statement so literally. Having been both a desktop recording Engineer and hobbyist for a decade and an audio and broadcast Engineer for all of my professional life, I think somehow it would be difficult for me not to know that. But the point is the Producer has the first and last word on how much of the resources are deployed to record 5.1, and how much energy goes into mixing for 5.1, and I don't think they put much of anything into it, probably because they don't understand it. The audio Engineer is but a hired gun working at the whim of the Producer, so it is typically the Producer driving what happens with 5.1.
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post #4448 of 4768
8/28/11 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by TomCat View Post

Auto correction seems sorely lacking to me, and they don't normally equalize, they set levels and delay times. If they did I doubt they could do it as well as professionally trained ears anyway. I am not trying to equalize for the room, the room should impart whatever natural character the room has, just as it imparts its natural character to a live conversation inside that room. I am equalizing for the speakers, which always need it no matter how much you may have spent for them. Accepting what off-the shelf speakers give you straight out of the box is like buying off the rack at the Men's Wearhouse, while good EQ is like having $12,000 suits professionally tailored.

And thanks for the clarification, Captain Obvious, of course Producers don't directly mix audio, just like they don't directly edit on the Avid NLE or physically splice the film; its surprising that anyone might take that statement so literally. Having been both a desktop recording Engineer and hobbyist for a decade and an audio and broadcast Engineer for all of my professional life, I think somehow it would be difficult for me not to know that. But the point is the Producer has the first and last word on how much of the resources are deployed to record 5.1, and how much energy goes into mixing for 5.1, and I don't think they put much of anything into it, probably because they don't understand it. The audio Engineer is but a hired gun working at the whim of the Producer, so it is typically the Producer driving what happens with 5.1.


Audyssey Multeq

Sounds like you're talking about the auto setup features that most home theater receivers used 7+ years ago. Now, software (like audyssey in the link above) is common on even entry level AVRs. My previous HT recv. (Onkyo) cost about $250 and it included 2eq which uses three measurements (MultEQ) from the listening area. My current unit (Denon) which cost about $850, uses six measurements and also applies filters to the sub. Setting the crossover, speaker sizes, speaker distance, delay, etc. is a (very, very) small part of the auto setup. In my AVR's audyssey setup each speaker (7) is adjusted individually by the software using a 9 band eq ranging from 63hz to 16khz.

How it adjusts the freq response

Even the AVRs that don't use the Audyssey brand have their own config. software that adjusts the sound eq. I think it's very rare now to have a AVR auto setup program that only sets the levels and delay. It's for sure not the norm in 2011, maybe in 2002, but not now.

Far more in depth than setting levels and delays...
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post #4449 of 4768
8/29/11 at 7:10am
Vizio XVT3SV - I guess we're not getting anymore firmware update huh? It just feels like Vizio had moved on to something else. Dec2010 was the last time Vizio did an auto-firmware update. September2011 is here and still no word on another firmware update, specifically on the USB video media capabilities. I'd even take an improved Netf**x interface update...anything, Vizio??
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post #4450 of 4768
8/29/11 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by awaters2879 View Post

thanks DSulls. where did you guys see that they might add support for video formats 'via' USB?

Cnet reviews for XVT3SV mentioned that the TV is capable of USB video media playback through firmware updates - unfortunately, when Vizio released an update back in Dec2010 they only enable images/audio file support. Vizio tech support mentioned that they are still working for an update but that was back in Feb2011 - it's almost September no still no firmware update. Vizio most likely have moved on to something else, so I'm no longer expecting that promise to materialize...
My solution? I bought an HDMI HD media player on Amaz*n for $65 - now I can watch all my HD contents from a flashdrive, SDHC card, internal or external hard drive with no problem. Plus my $98 LG bluray player support the most common media files including AVCHD.
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post #4451 of 4768
8/29/11 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by mdeluca View Post

At CES, Vizio announced they would support Skype on their sets - but they seem to have gone radio silent on this since then. Anyone with any info on whether this is still coming?

Vizio announce lots of things, believe it when you see it...they announced USB video media support for this series as well back in October 2010. The Dec2010 firmware release they made the USB functional but no video support as announced...so about the Skype support, I won't hold my breath on that. many are still waiting for the USB video support, and even more for another firmware update - so far nothing from Vizio...
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post #4452 of 4768
8/29/11 at 12:09pm
XVT553SV is discontinued correct?
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post #4453 of 4768
8/30/11 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by TomCat View Post

And thanks for the clarification, Captain Obvious, of course Producers don't directly mix audio, just like they don't directly edit on the Avid NLE or physically splice the film; its surprising that anyone might take that statement so literally. Having been both a desktop recording Engineer and hobbyist for a decade and an audio and broadcast Engineer for all of my professional life, I think somehow it would be difficult for me not to know that. But the point is the Producer has the first and last word on how much of the resources are deployed to record 5.1, and how much energy goes into mixing for 5.1, and I don't think they put much of anything into it, probably because they don't understand it. The audio Engineer is but a hired gun working at the whim of the Producer, so it is typically the Producer driving what happens with 5.1.

Producers, IMO, clearly don't know much about sound. I've been to a couple of homes of producers and editors....their sounds systems were pretty old and messed up.

There are also different types of producers. What types have you worked with and what types of projects? As a desktop recording engineer and audio engineer, what 5.1/7.1 sound codecs have you worked with?

The fact that you have been "both a desktop recording Engineer and hobbyist for a decade and an audio and broadcast Engineer" makes me even more intrigued that you don't think DD5.1 is mature.
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post #4454 of 4768
8/30/11 at 1:58pm
Geez! Wanted to buy this tv series but after reading this thread I am shattered.
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post #4455 of 4768
8/30/11 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by Arclight View Post

Geez! Wanted to buy this tv series but after reading this thread I am shattered.

It's a great TV. Won't find better for the money.

Definitely has had it share of issues, but many(most) with no problems.
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post #4456 of 4768
8/31/11 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Arclight View Post

Geez! Wanted to buy this tv series but after reading this thread I am shattered.

A lot of us are very happy with ours. I have had mine now for 9 months and have had zero problems. I probably wasted the money I spent for the extended warranty I purchased.
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post #4457 of 4768
8/31/11 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by Arclight View Post

Geez! Wanted to buy this tv series but after reading this thread I am shattered.

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't worry about what you've read in this thread. Most content users don't go on websites to tell everyone how happy they are, they're too busy enjoying their new TV. It's the irate users who will make the most noise on a board like this. It doesn't matter what TV you're looking at, these types of boards will always be full of complaints.

I've had mine since January and I couldn't be happier. It's definitely a great TV for a great price.
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post #4458 of 4768
8/31/11 at 6:41am
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Producers, IMO, clearly don't know much about sound. I've been to a couple of homes of producers and editors....their sounds systems were pretty old and messed up.

There are also different types of producers. What types have you worked with and what types of projects? As a desktop recording engineer and audio engineer, what 5.1/7.1 sound codecs have you worked with?

The fact that you have been "both a desktop recording Engineer and hobbyist for a decade and an audio and broadcast Engineer" makes me even more intrigued that you don't think DD5.1 is mature.

I couldn't agree more with you in this debate. There's simply no comparison to watching movies with good surround sound.

Watching a movie with a plane or car that goes flying by, while you can both see and feel it moving from your back left to your front right; Or watching a movie where your main characters are hiding in the woods, but you can hear tree limbs and bushes lightly moving from the back speakers as someone is sneaking up behind them (before you even see them on the screen) -- like you're in the woods with them. /cheesy examples

A well done surround sound setup creates an extra mood that really makes you feel like you're in the movie.
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8/31/11 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by Arclight View Post

Geez! Wanted to buy this tv series but after reading this thread I am shattered.

I have had the 47 for about 8 months now and have had no issues,and i think the PQ is very good, if you do decide to buy , regardless of what brand you buy, get one from a place that has a 90 day no questions asked return policy like sams or costco. At one time I had a sony and the vizo in my Liv room to compare and retuned the sony after a 2 week trial. you are the best judge of what your eyes like good luck and if you do go with the vizio you will not be disapointed.
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post #4460 of 4768
8/31/11 at 9:00am
I have had no problems - absolutely love it. The PQ impresses my wife and friends. Remeber, that most of the people who post in any user group are either searching for an answer or "venting". The happy ones just stay silent.
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post #4461 of 4768
8/31/11 at 9:57am
I really wish Vizo would make the XVT3SV in a 65" version. I have a Sony 50" SXRD and it still works. Despite my best efforts, it hasn't broken yet. I know Vizio has the 65" Razor edge lit, my wife saw it a Sam's and loved the larger size, but I would rather have the full array LED. I have to belive the full array would have a better picture. Has anyone heard any rumors if Vizio may make a larger XVT3SV?
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post #4462 of 4768
9/2/11 at 11:02am
Thx for all the positive posts. I think, I'll follow your advice and go for it.

Thx again!
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9/2/11 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by TomCat View Post

I learned a few things about these Vizios last night.

I had always suspected that since "Smart Dimming" modulates the backlight, that turning the backlight to zero would prevent SD from working. Apparently, not so; with the BL at zero, SD still works. So "zero" is probably not really fully off, and this is likely done to keep SD working with the BL turned low.

This has allowed me to upgrade my settings, moving BL from 15 to 7 (I had compromised by keeping it up at 15 to give SD some room to work with, which now proves unnecessary), and raising brightness and contrast 3 clicks each to compensate. I verified this using the grey scale from the HDNet TP, and the black and white points are still set just as good as before, if not even better. I also found that if you turn the auto-ambient light setting back on, they still track in light or dark, and track well enough to leave that setting on all of the time (although you must turn it off momentarily to actually change the BL setting).

Bottom line? Better pix than ever. And of course a lower BL is more energy-efficient as well.

It is pretty easy to verify SD working with the DirecTV screensaver on, as this is a blue logo floating "Pong-like" over a black background, and you can see the black area around the logo gets lighter than the rest of the background and this tracks as the logo moves. This is probably the most-difficult scenario for SD to appear transparently. It is even easier to see at a 45-degree look angle.

With normal video is is very nearly impossible to notice this particular artifact, however, which is as it should be. A dark wide shot with a full moon in it will just appear as if there were a little more natural haze around the moon or in the sky than normal while the darkest greys still seem naturally close to black, which is something acceptable because this appears normally in nature. What does not appear normally in nature is absolute black levels that are too grey or light, and that is of course what SD seems to prevent, effectively stretching the absolute black down where we want it dynamically. So, this makes SD very effective.

About the only other place I notice it is when a shot fades to black and back up; instead of a continuous smooth fade, there is a little jump at the point of threshold for SD, which is noticeable, yet not annoying. But this also makes full black really complete black, which I guess is the point.

Good info Tom! Even a year later I am still messing with my settings lol, I'm never satisfied. If you don't mind do you think you could post your settings?
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post #4464 of 4768
9/2/11 at 2:26pm
I have a 23 Visio All I get on the picture is a blue screen with a 2 wide vertical grey bars just off center of the picture. I get no change from any setting TV, VCR, USB- etc. The TV has a 12volt power hook up and has a transformer in the plug to get from 110v to the 12vdc. I have been using the TV on my boat and using straight 12v power. My batteries went drained when I left the charger off, could have the low power supply damaged something.
What should cause this can I replace the part and how do I trouble shoot?
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post #4465 of 4768
9/3/11 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by syphon00 View Post
XVT553SV is discontinued correct?
The Vizio web site lists it as out of stock, but they have that status for several others, including the 3D model. You can still buy it at Costco and other retailers both brick & mortar and online. You can probably find a Labor Day special on it.
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post #4466 of 4768
9/14/11 at 4:42am
Just picked up the XVT323SV yesterday for the bedroom and I love the picture quality. It got up to date with the latest firmware this morning and I'm glad to see Netflix now has the search capability like my Google TV downstairs.
One thing I find troubling is that if I leave dimming on with tv and dvd it works great but leaving it on with Netflix causes weird things like if I rewind a movie the screen blacks out until it plays again. Also if the movie is loading up it blacks out the screen. I turned dimming off for internet apps and it got rid of the problem but the picture isn't quite as nice.
Also, why didn't they make the remote backlit?

Other than those 2 things I am loving this tv.
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post #4467 of 4768
9/17/11 at 5:50pm
Problem: My 'Smooth Motion Effect' is set to off, but nothing I do will let me turn it back on?
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post #4468 of 4768
9/18/11 at 3:48pm
hey guys i have a 553 (55") i got last black friday. i got the extended warranty through sam's club so im set but the question i have is this. usually when i turn the TV on and the PS3 i get a rainbow distortion with crackling in the audio. also the TV seems to pick up the wrong resolution (ie: 1998x1444 @29Hz) on the top right corner. this mostly happens with my PS3 but occasionally (rarely) does this with my laptop and cable box. i have changed inputs,HDMI cords and even replaced the PS3. Anyone ever experience this issue ? is this a known issue ? any solution ? should i get a Tech to my place to check it out even though i can only reproduce the issue 70% of the time ? also anyone have tips on local dimming ? i get a halo effect on very dark images ... thanks !
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9/18/11 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Fastontheturns View Post

hey guys i have a 553 (55") i got last black friday. i got the extended warranty through sam's club so im set but the question i have is this. usually when i turn the TV on and the PS3 i get a rainbow distortion with crackling in the audio. also the TV seems to pick up the wrong resolution (ie: 1998x1444 @29Hz) on the top right corner. this mostly happens with my PS3 but occasionally (rarely) does this with my laptop and cable box. i have changed inputs,HDMI cords and even replaced the PS3. Anyone ever experience this issue ? is this a known issue ? any solution ? should i get a Tech to my place to check it out even though i can only reproduce the issue 70% of the time ? also anyone have tips on local dimming ? i get a halo effect on very dark images ... thanks !

I occasionally get the distortion and crackling in the sound when I turn it on with DirecTV via HDMI. Turning it off and back on fixes it but that is a good question? Is this a know issue or does it require service. I got mine the same time, last November.
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post #4470 of 4768
9/21/11 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by hediondo19 View Post

Problem: My 'Smooth Motion Effect' is set to off, but nothing I do will let me turn it back on?

I forget what you have enabled/disabled that affects this.......I'm not home to check my set......maybe someone else can chime in......I know it's something simple.........
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