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post #1 of 23
7/13/10 at 2:39pm
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Please give me some suggestions on receivers to use.

My setup is:

Yamaha NS-C444 center
Yamaha NS-777 towers
Yamaha NS-333 surrounds
Infinity PS-12 subwoofer


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post #2 of 23
7/13/10 at 3:06pm
Unless you post a budget you'll get suggestions all over the map.
Some idea of what you want to plug into it and your display type would also help narrow things down a bit.
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post #3 of 23
7/13/10 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

Unless you post a budget you'll get suggestions all over the map.
Some idea of what you want to plug into it and your display type would also help narrow things down a bit.

lol I'm such a n00b. What do you mean by display type?

I have a 55" LG LE8500. I'll have my Playstation 3, Xbox 360 Elite, and my DISH Satellite receiver plugged into it as well. I really don't know how much to budget. I guess it just depends of if I really need the features. I'm just looking for a 5.1 system.

What's the benefit of doing a 6.1 or 7.1/7.2 setup?
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post #4 of 23
7/14/10 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by DJ Synergy View Post

lol I'm such a n00b. What do you mean by display type?

I have a 55" LG LE8500. I'll have my Playstation 3, Xbox 360 Elite, and my DISH Satellite receiver plugged into it as well. I really don't know how much to budget. I guess it just depends of if I really need the features. I'm just looking for a 5.1 system.

What's the benefit of doing a 6.1 or 7.1/7.2 setup?

Well for a 5.1 AVR there is the Denon 1610/1611 that uses a good version of Audyssey for Eq'ing. These can be had for a very ggod price, especially the 1610 if you can find one. Its HDMI version1.3. The 1611 is HDMI version 1.4 for 3D use. You can always move up to a 7.1/2 AVR and use the extra amps in it to bi-amp your fronts(L/R). Good ones to look into are the 1910/1911 or especially the Denon 3310. Its a very good AVR thats selling for almost 1/2 of when it came out. Any of these would work out fine for what you want to do. Google these models for best prices.
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post #5 of 23
7/14/10 at 1:37pm
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Well for a 5.1 AVR there is the Denon 1610/1611 that uses a good version of Audyssey for Eq'ing. These can be had for a very ggod price, especially the 1610 if you can find one. Its HDMI version1.3. The 1611 is HDMI version 1.4 for 3D use. You can always move up to a 7.1/2 AVR and use the extra amps in it to bi-amp your fronts(L/R). Good ones to look into are the 1910/1911 or especially the Denon 3310. Its a very good AVR thats selling for almost 1/2 of when it came out. Any of these would work out fine for what you want to do. Google these models for best prices.

Thanks for your input and getting me started, but now I'm stuck trying to choose between:

Denon AVR3310CI

Yamaha RX-V2065BL

Marantz SR7002

Onkyo TX-SR876


Any other feedback/input would be greatly appreciated in helping with my decision! Thanks!
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post #6 of 23
7/14/10 at 1:53pm
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Thanks for your input and getting me started, but now I'm stuck trying to choose between:

Denon AVR3310CI

Yamaha RX-V2065BL

Marantz SR7002


Any other feedback/input would be greatly appreciated in helping with my decision! Thanks!

Of these my first choice would be the Denon 3310 due to its version of Audyssey. It also has pre-outs(as do the others) in case you would like to add an amp. The 2065 would be my second choice, but I'm a Yamaha fanboy so they are always ones I look into before others. The marantz would be my 3rd choice because it does funny things with its implementation of Audyssey. Something about it and Blu-Ray IIRC. So it really comes down to the Denon and Yamaha to me, but its not me. If I were you I would read the dedicated threads for each of these AVR's and see what the owners of each are saying about them. Then determine which one fits your needs the best. Either would serve you well IMO. Even better if possible is to bring one of them home and listen to them in your room and then make your decision. Thay way there is no question in your mind which one is the best for you.
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post #7 of 23
7/14/10 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by phantom52 View Post

Of these my first choice would be the Denon 3310 due to its version of Audyssey. It also has pre-outs(as do the others) in case you would like to add an amp. The 2065 would be my second choice, but I'm a Yamaha fanboy so they are always ones I look into before others. The marantz would be my 3rd choice because it does funny things with its implementation of Audyssey. Something about it and Blu-Ray IIRC. So it really comes down to the Denon and Yamaha to me, but its not me. If I were you I would read the dedicated threads for each of these AVR's and see what the owners of each are saying about them. Then determine which one fits your needs the best. Either would serve you well IMO. Even better if possible is to bring one of them home and listen to them in your room and then make your decision. Thay way there is no question in your mind which one is the best for you.

I noticed that you chose the Yammie over the Denon in another similar thread. Why have you changed your preference for the Denon now?

Also what are your thoughts of the Onkyo TX-SR876 compared to the Denon & Yamaha?

Once again, thanks for your time and valued opinions.
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post #8 of 23
7/14/10 at 2:11pm
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I noticed that you chose the Yammie over the Denon in another similar thread. Why have you changed your preference for the Denon now?

Also what are your thoughts of the Onkyo TX-SR876 compared to the Denon & Yamaha?

Once again, thanks for your time and valued opinions.

I'll choose one over the other mostly depending on the speakers the OP is using. As for the Onkyo 876 thats not a fair question because thats what I'm using now. IMHO it smacks your other choices if you don't want or need networking. Its in an entirely different class than any of the AVRs on your list. Its powerful,its flexible,it has Audyssey Multi-EQ XT, it is bi-ampable, it has a BTL feature that will send even more power to the fronts(L/R), it has a Reon HQV video processor if thats important to you. Also its ratings are much closer without a doubt to its specs with all channels driven than any of your other choices. I would recommend it over any of your other choices without a seconds hesitation. Not even close to me.
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post #9 of 23
7/14/10 at 3:33pm
Hello,
I really think the Onkyo TX-SR876 was an amazing AVR. The combination of a strong Amplifier Section, Reon HQV Video Processing, THX Ultra2 Plus Processing, Audyssey MultEQ XT, and more really made for an AVR which offered all of the Features and Performance of a Flagship AVR for thousands less.

Compared to the other AVR's, the 876 is far more powerful, and is the only AVR with THX Ultra2 Plus Processing. In addition, Reon really is an excellent Video Processor.
Cheers,
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post #10 of 23
7/15/10 at 10:29am
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I'll choose one over the other mostly depending on the speakers the OP is using. As for the Onkyo 876 thats not a fair question because thats what I'm using now. IMHO it smacks your other choices if you don't want or need networking. Its in an entirely different class than any of the AVRs on your list. Its powerful,its flexible,it has Audyssey Multi-EQ XT, it is bi-ampable, it has a BTL feature that will send even more power to the fronts(L/R), it has a Reon HQV video processor if thats important to you. Also its ratings are much closer without a doubt to its specs with all channels driven than any of your other choices. I would recommend it over any of your other choices without a seconds hesitation. Not even close to me.

Networking isn't high on the list right now, but maybe I'll grow to love it's functionality. Can't you just pay an extra $100 for the firmware upgrade of the Audyssey on the Denon?
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post #11 of 23
7/15/10 at 11:44am
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Networking isn't high on the list right now, but maybe I'll grow to love it's functionality. Can't you just pay an extra $100 for the firmware upgrade of the Audyssey on the Denon?

The Denon's come with a good version of Audyssey. The models you were looking into have Dynamic EQ, Volume, Multi-EQ XT, IIRC. But these AVRs are not in the class of the Onkyo 876 IMO. To get to that class you would need the Denon 4810.
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post #12 of 23
7/15/10 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by phantom52 View Post

The Denon's come with a good version of Audyssey. The models you were looking into have Dynamic EQ, Volume, Multi-EQ XT, IIRC. But these AVRs are not in the class of the Onkyo 876 IMO. To get to that class you would need the Denon 4810.

but the 4810 is a 9.3 system; how is that comparable?
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post #13 of 23
7/15/10 at 2:27pm
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but the 4810 is a 9.3 system; how is that comparable?

Powerwise is the way its comparable. Haven't seen or read any test reports on the 4810. I know that the Denon 4310 was equal to the previous years 3808CI. The 3310 was the equal to that same years 2809CI. So my thought process is that the 4810 was the equal to the same years 4306CI with more amps in it. Doesn't mean it would meet its specs. Last year there was a drop in the power supplies in most AVR's. Onkyo,Denon,Yamaha were all caught up in the drop in quality of their amps and power supplies. Read the test reports on any of their models. The only ones they made that came close to previous models were in the $1.6K and up bracket.
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post #14 of 23
7/15/10 at 4:18pm
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but the 4810 is a 9.3 system; how is that comparable?

Hello,
With the 4810, the 3 Subwoofers cannot be configured in the same room with individual Audyssey Calibration for each Subwoofer the way that the Onkyo's can with 2 Subwoofers.

I actually thought you could hook up to 3 Subwoofers in the same Room with the 4810 until Batpig pointed out my error in this assumption. Moreover, the 4810 is 3000 Dollars and still does not offer THX Processing.
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post #15 of 23
7/16/10 at 9:47am
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Hello,
With the 4810, the 3 Subwoofers cannot be configured in the same room with individual Audyssey Calibration for each Subwoofer the way that the Onkyo's can with 2 Subwoofers.

I actually thought you could hook up to 3 Subwoofers in the same Room with the 4810 until Batpig pointed out my error in this assumption. Moreover, the 4810 is 3000 Dollars and still does not offer THX Processing.
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Why are you so fond of the THX? I thought that was just a certification that you pay Lucas to attain that states that the equipment has standards that can handle the THX.
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post #16 of 23
7/16/10 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by phantom52 View Post

Powerwise is the way its comparable. Haven't seen or read any test reports on the 4810. I know that the Denon 4310 was equal to the previous years 3808CI. The 3310 was the equal to that same years 2809CI. So my thought process is that the 4810 was the equal to the same years 4306CI with more amps in it. Doesn't mean it would meet its specs. Last year there was a drop in the power supplies in most AVR's. Onkyo,Denon,Yamaha were all caught up in the drop in quality of their amps and power supplies. Read the test reports on any of their models. The only ones they made that came close to previous models were in the $1.6K and up bracket.

So would the only advantage of the Denon 3310 be that it can connect via network for firmware updates as well as being able to stream music from the net?
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post #17 of 23
7/16/10 at 10:09am
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So would the only advantage of the Denon 3310 be that it can connect via network for firmware updates as well as being able to stream music from the net?

Yes. But this something you can get from an Onkyo 1007/3007/5007 also. Although at this time they are a little more than the 3310. The 3007 is as close to the 876 as Onkyo makes IMO for its price. It deserves a look also.
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post #18 of 23
7/16/10 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by DJ Synergy View Post

Why are you so fond of the THX? I thought that was just a certification that you pay Lucas to attain that states that the equipment has standards that can handle the THX.

Hello,
Beyond THX Certification, there is THX Processing. This includes Movie Modes, Music Modes, Subwoofer Technology (Boundary Gain Compensation), and more.
I do not use the Amplifiers in my AVR and use it strictly as an SSP. The 875's combination of THX, Audyssey MultEQ XT, and Reon Video Processing made for an excellent SSP for my HT. In truth, had I not been so impatient, I should have gotten an Integra DTC-9.8. It was just it was about impossible to find them when they first hit the Market.

When watching BD's and DVD's, I almost always use THX Ultra2 Cinema. I am also quite fond of THX's Neural Surround.
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post #19 of 23
7/16/10 at 2:30pm
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what are y'alls thoughts on refurbished ones?

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-Silver/1.html
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post #20 of 23
7/16/10 at 2:36pm
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what are y'alls thoughts on refurbished ones?

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-Silver/1.html

I have the silver one and its a good looking AVR. However I bought mine new, so I can't help you on the refurbs. Most of what I've read here is that the refurbs from there are very good. If it doesn't work as advertised send it back. You will only have a 1 year warranty instead of 2 as the new one would have.
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post #21 of 23
7/16/10 at 3:37pm
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I have the silver one and its a good looking AVR. However I bought mine new, so I can't help you on the refurbs. Most of what I've read here is that the refurbs from there are very good. If it doesn't work as advertised send it back. You will only have a 1 year warranty instead of 2 as the new one would have.

I'm checking out the 3007 as you have advised. I'm slowly becoming inundated with all this new info that I'm absorbing. lol What are your thoughts on having a setup consisting front height speakers(and maybe wide speakers) vs having rear surround speakers? If favorable, then can I use my NS-333 for the height setup?
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post #22 of 23
7/19/10 at 10:40am
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I'm checking out the 3007 as you have advised. I'm slowly becoming inundated with all this new info that I'm absorbing. lol What are your thoughts on having a setup consisting front height speakers(and maybe wide speakers) vs having rear surround speakers? If favorable, then can I use my NS-333 for the height setup?

what should I use for my wide? more NS-333 or NS-777?
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post #23 of 23
7/19/10 at 12:07pm
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what should I use for my wide? more NS-333 or NS-777?

I would think that the NS-333 would be enough. These speakers are more for an ambience use than for full use like the front L/C/R.
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