The "Official" TX-NR708 Owners Thread - Page 29

What is it set to? Try Auto.

Glad you got it working!

Just to update in case anyone else with the same issue comes across this thread, updating the firmware fixed the problem. Network settings option is no longer grayed out. This was on a HT-RC270.

Thanks.

I had a similar problem and, after rechecking speaker connections msny times, my speakers were connected incorrectly. One had + & - reversed. Got speakers connected correctly and audyssey completed.

I am about to buy this receiver and would like to know what sources can be played to both zone 1 and zone 2 simultaneously? I have downloaded and searched the manual, but no luck. Some sales folks have said that only an analog source could be shared between the 2 zones. any ideas?

Thanks!

Julian

Only analog sources, USB/iPod, and network devices can be played in zones 2 and 3.

Yeah just discovered this to my dismay. All my sources are either HDMI or Optical Fibre.

So you have to sacrifice audio quality in order for Zone 2 to work.

So if I stream audio files from my media server via the network, I can play the same content zone1 and zone 2? I originally hoped i could use optical inputs for that, but I am ok, if this works

Julian

Why are you sacrificing quality? In most cases Zone 2 is a casual listening environment not intended for critical listening. Certainly a set of RCA cables can handle that.

Yes, that is correct.

It turns out that when I look at Anynet+ on the TV, it says "no devices." I tell it to connect and it finds the 708 and says it's configuring. Once done configuring, the 708 still doesn't show up on the tv's anynet device list. So I'm guessing whatever is causing that is also the reason ARC fails on the 708 when trying to play AmazonTV or Netflix.

I have not yet upgraded my 708 firmware. Maybe that's the reason? (I'm a little afraid to do so after reading of problems after a firmware upgrade.)

I agree with you and for me Zone 2 is specced for the patio speakers so yes quality is not that important. However this is what the manual says;


So I understand this to mean that I need to have an analogue input in order to output to Zone 2. For me that means choosing RCA over Digital for my Music via Sat TV.

Is this correct?

Just upgrade via USB as it's safer. Takes about 30 minutes.

My list is empty too, but I expect that, as I have all HDMI power control options off. Also, I've had the 708 since the week they were released, and ARC has always worked for me. Still, don't hesitate to get the new firmware. It may have nothing to do with ARC, but it has resolved other problems I've had, and probably several I didn't know I had.

I have one more suggestion of the brute force variety. Turn on everything related to ARC and Anynet+ on the TV and RIHD on the AVR, and save the settings. Then power down both. Don't just put them in standby, but unplug the AC cords after you do. After all, they both have processors, and all operating systems need a reboot once in a while. Then when you power on again, all of the handshaking protocols involved with HDMI have a chance to start up properly. If this indeed gets ARC working, then you can turn off the HDMI power options if you don't want to use the Onkyo remote for the TV.

That is correct.

If you use HDMI from your Sat box then you need to add a stereo pair of RCAs.

If you use Component and digital (opt or coax), then you still need to add a set of stereo RCAs.

This will allow you to send the music to Zone 2 through either the line out (stereo RCA pair) or using the Powered Zone 2 option which uses the 708's built in amplifiers.

Ah, so I can assign both RCA and Digital audio to an input? I really didn't know that. I thought it was one or the other.

Thanks very much for pointing this out to me.

You don't have to assign the analog ins, those are pre-configured. The receiver will "find" an audio signal for each input startig with HDMI, then going to digital, then analog. But for Zone 2 it looks strictly for analog, bypassing the HDMI and digital connections.

porterxx - thanks for the response. I did check out the polarity on all the speakers. Even went through all combination in the side/back surrounds in case something was reversed in the attic (didn't feel like crawling back up there). The result was no luck. I usually pay close attention when I wire speakers but like you said, you can always miss a connection. Since I was within my 30 days from newegg, the unit went back today for replacement. Looking forward to arrival of the repaired or replaced unit.

Sounds like you did the right thing steve1959.
When you get your new receiver, it's recommended that you calibrate for all 6 positions for best performance. See the Initial Setup link in my sig for suggestions.

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I'm trying to Get my Onlyo to find my Windows home server, so i can stream music. The Onkyo displayes "no server". I can get internet radio to work, and i can also conect to the Onkyo with the ip adress. But the Onkyo does not show up in "my network" on my laptop. I can stream music, photos and video to other devicec from my WHS. What am i doing wrong? Happy for every clue i can get:-)

Any recommendations based on your experience?

I also heard Onkyo was coming out with their own version... any news?

Can't post urls yet, search for "1278061" -- thats the thread ID number for discussion on apps. Noteably oremote.

I have Verizon FIOS STB (Motorola HD DVR QIP 7216 1) and Sharp Aquos LC-52D64U LCD TVs wired to Onkyo TX-NR708. Both TV and STB are connected using HDMI 1.3a cable. Onkyo TX-NR708 and Sharp TV have latest firmware.

Once STB selected as input, if I put AV receiver in standby mode, Verizon STB signals are passed to TV in HDMI passthrough mode without any problem. I want to leave Onkyo TX-NR708 in Standby mode all the time and operate Fios/TV using verizon's STB remote.

I have noticed that, for HDMI passthrough to work with above Sharp TV, I have to power ON Onkyo TX-NR708 receiver every time and then switch the reciever to Standby mode. In short, I need to use both Onkyo and Verizon remotes evry time.

Here are the details :

After powering ON Onkyo TX-NR708 (and TV is receiving Fios channels), If I switch Onkyo reciever to Standby mode, HDMI pass through works fine. However, When I power OFF Sharp LCD TV (while keeping cable STB powered ON), after approximately 5 seconds I hear a clicking sound from Onkyo TX-NR708 (sounds like some sort of electro magnetic relay/switch turning off). On subsequent TV power ON, Onkyo TX-NR708 does not pass Verizon Fios STB signal to TV even though reciever's HDMI pass through mode light is on.

At this point, if I power ON Onkyo reciever and switch to HDMI Standy mode, pass through works again (as long as the TV is on). It appears as though Onkyo TX-NR708 (in standby mode) resets STB input pass through mapping to TV as soon as Sharp Aquos TV is powered off.

To troubleshoot, I connected Onkyo's HDMI output to an ASUS 20" LCD monitor using same HDMI cable. And, Onkyo's HDMI pass through works without any trouble !!.

My conclusions are :

a. Either Onkyo TX-NR708 does not handle Sharp Aquos RIHD (Aquos Link) signals OR
b. Sharp sends some RIHD signal causing Onkyo to loose HDMI mapping function (wild imagination)
Sharp support was super fast and stated that they do not have any suggested settting for Onkyo TX-NR708.

I am lost, I appreciate any tip to resolve this issue.

My setup wiring is as follows :

Verizon FIOS STB -- HDMI (1.3a) ---> Onkyo TX-NR708 -----> Sharp Aquos LC-52D64U LCD TV.

All other inputs have been disconnected for troubleshooting purpose.

My Onkyo TX-NR708 setup is as follows :

Auto TV : ON
Lip Sync : Disable

HDMI Control (RIHD) : On
ARC : Off <-- Tried changing it, does not help
Power Control : On <-- Tried changing it, does not help
TV Control : off <-- Tried changing it, does not help

Note that I have same problem when Sharp TV has RIHD disabled. I have confirmed that putting Verizon STB off (in standby mode) does not contribute to the problem. Problem starts when Sharp TV is turned OFF either directly or using STB/TV remote.

My mail to Onkyo two days ago has not been answered, I will call them when I am home on weekdays!.

I found my problem. It turns out that the SRS Trusurround XT setting on my Samsung 6187 TV has apparently went bad causing the distortion. I've turned it off but the sound quality thru the TV speakers is now somewhat lower.

Anybody having static burst problems with their 708?

When it's locking onto an audio bitstream it will have a couple seconds of a loud burst of digital static-y noise before it locks on.

My other older 805 doesn't do that.

A Sony 570 Blu-ray player and Dish HD box are hooked up to it.

I have looked without success to find discrete codes for use with my Harmony One remote. I specifically want to have a discrete code for Net/USB. I want to be able to program just "net" in order to make it easy to listen to internet radio without toggeling. Thanks a lot.

i have a dude betwenn this avr denon and onkyo 708, what you thinks guys, wich of two had best overall components and mixed good sound ( cinema and listening music ) thanks!

Hi everyone… this is where I say “been long time lurker”, but I can’t

Been else where, up to my ankles in “research”… (and I’m in head first), learning so much from here and there. All because of folks like you, reading this now. I got just enough knowledge to be dangerous… Dangerous as in getting expensive… (Champagne appetite, beer budget). But I also know you get what you pay for, so cheap doesn’t equal quality.

In the many thread I have journeyed (Audio, Flat Panel, HTPC, etc), something I have privately distained, was the interruptions by folks who can find the answers to there questions by simply reading. I’ve found threads that are in the triple digits, but if it was worth reading, then I read it all. I mean it kinda Pi$$ed me off when they do it. Page 29? I’ll knock that off in short order! And this comes from another thread??? The 708/808 thread??? Sweet! I will take the time to read every word in these threads… (I’m too jazzed not to!)...

Is this what it appears to be?.. (no pro reviews that I googled, just a cnet peek?) This is the authority on this beast right here? How awesome! I’ve briefly scanned a just few pages, and I mean real brief)... nothing I haven’t read elsewhere here on other threads.

But I must beg your forgiveness….I’m about to be terribly rude. I deserve your ridicule… your scorn… your silence in no reply. But I just stumbled on to you… no, that’s not right…stumbled around to you, not knowing… yeh, that’s more like it! And I just gotta know.. I can’t wait… I gotta ask!

DSX/PLIIz??? Network issues??? Audio drops/delays??? Video card issues??? Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes… I’ll get that, glad to, on my own, happily! But no, that’s not my question(s). And we don’t talk price here at AVSF in these threads… nope, never mentioning great deals… (I can pm you later on that …)

I want to know how easy is it to switch between modes 7.2/H/W/PLIIz… specifically, if I had all the speakers for a 11.2, could I “play” and see which I like best? With all sorts of different sources? Then maybe eventually get external amplifiers to run a 11.2 system? (Yup… I looked at 1007/8, 3007/8, 5007/8 but have always considered that a fantasy Yes, I also am smart enough too look for the answers in the owners manual I have just downloaded. I will know these things, but I can’t wait!
But I’m not done!!! I want to know your feelings about this “potential” monster… ie, the bang for the buck… the sound quality compared to it’s big brothers… the one thing you wish it had…

I again, ask your forgiveness. This has been so terribly rude of me, I know… lets just say there is a “window of opportunity” closing fast… as well as “he has this fantasy”….

And thanks, a lot of thanks, to each and every one of you I am about to get to know… Thanks for your wisdom and sage advise I will be receiving as I “catch up” to page 29… and Thanks for your patience, reading my lapse in sanity and propriety here and now!

(I just can’t believe how, or fathom why, this baby fell off my radar!)

I'm not even going to pretend to know what the hell you are talking about in the rest of your post. But I can touch on this part (which seems like the real reason for your post). I don't have all the info though so hopefully someone else can chime in.


This receiver is a 7.2 receiver. It will NEVER do 11.2!!! It is not possible! Nor will the 5008 for that matter (it is a 9.2 receiver).

Not that we have cleared that up how easy is it to switch between different 7.2 systems? There are 3 ways to do it. We will use a typical 5.1 system with L,C,R and L and R surrounds (placed at the sides of the listening area). The first 7 channel system would use surround back speakers (placed behind the listening area). The second would be using height speakers, the third uses width speakers.

The 708 (and 808, 1008, 3008, 5008, etc) use 11 speaker connections. So you CAN hookup all the speakers. But only 7 at a time will work (on the 708 and 808). The thing I do not know is how easy it is to switch between FH, FW, or SB. If using Audyssey you will have to rerun after switching so that would not be quick. The manual appears to show that with a few clicks you can turn off one set and turn on another.

Probably a dumb question, is there anyway to use Dynamic volume without having to have Dynamic EQ enabled, I really hate the effect of Dynamic EQ?

Pretty easy actually. Press the 'receiver' button then press either the 'music' or 'movie' buttons to choose your listening mode. The AVR will switch between whatever it available. So if you have front heights then Pro Logic IIz and Audyssey DSX will be available. If you have rear surrounds then Dolby Digital EX will be there.

Too many to choose so be warned. Also it's not pleasant to switch between them all so once you like a particular mode so to speak you can set that as a listening preference for that respective input.

So you might like Pro Logic IIx and IIz for Movies input from a Sat box or Dolby True HD from a BD player. All can be preset and then there's no more button pushing.