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post #121 of 476
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

It has been "produced", just not released yet.

Without going into specifics, the holdup is a specific software/firmware issue they are having.

As long as it is not resources (processing power, memory, throughput etc) related I am okay.
post #122 of 476
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If the hardware is done, any reason the web site can't be updated?

They are kinda somewhat slow here.
post #123 of 476
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They are kinda somewhat slow here.

If they get much slower, they can raise the price. The Magnavox MDR515H/F7 just went to $550 on Amazon. AND IT'S NOT HD! Maybe if ePVision waits until Christmas they can charge $1k for it, even if it doesn't work.
post #124 of 476
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Sounds like a plan, I'll buy then up now and cash in 10 months later.

I mentioned about not updating his web site. He responded that he would see to it.

$550 for the Funai DVD/DVR????? Sheesh!
It's such a shame it is only SD and has no Guide. Two HUGE mistakes since it does most everything else this and the Sony doesn't. The editing ability of a recorded program or a DVD (if it is stripped) is amazing for a non computer solution.
post #125 of 476
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What's with the "w/wo Card"??
post #126 of 476
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

What's with the "w/wo Card"??

Tivo Premier with cable card.

Magnavox 2160A, 515H and Sony DHG-HDD250 (4) without. Also PViX and ZAT-980H without. My two televisions have no cable card, but the Sony gets TVGOS V10 from the internet without a card. It's not so good, but I can map a few old vsb cable channels to clear raw QAM channels. About a dozen before it crashes the TV software. No OTA reception, and the cable has no PSIP data.

My cable feed still provides 8 days of TVGOS legacy guide very reliably and for free. But I don't wish to use the guide to schedule analog when manual scheduling digital is available. I have 26 analog and 140 digital clear QAM channels. 12 are HD.
post #127 of 476
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I have 26 analog and 140 digital clear QAM channels. 12 are HD.

You have 140 in the clear QAM stations???
What MSO?

(I hope you know you are a DVR slut. )
post #128 of 476
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Doing a little thinking on if/how a external HDD case with multiple HDD's capability would/could work here.

Doing a short search for cases that have more than one internal HDD, I find these;
http://www.evertek.com/viewpart.asp?auto=74299&cat=19
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...A2B-FB&cat=CSE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182144
http://www.amazon.com/ProBox-Drive-E.../dp/B003X26VV4

Though the last one might be a little overkill, the first two are reasonably priced (assuming they actually work w/o problems) and I would figure that would make more sense (for a few dollars more over a single case, to have the ability to house a 2nd HDD even if you have to power the DVR down, swap internal cables and power back up to access the other HDD.

Briefly looking over the 12% negative comments from Newegg, most seem to be either it dies, bad PS or won't communicate with the PC. I only have had experience (positive) with one external HDD enclosure and that is only using an eSATA interface.
post #129 of 476
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You have 140 in the clear QAM stations???
What MSO?

(I hope you know you are a DVR slut. )

Ok, I included the music channels. My mother, 8 miles away, has 70 vsb and 150 clear QAM. Cable company is Service Electric. This lineup would be what I would see with a STB/cable card:

http://www.secv.com/cdocs/channel_sun.pdf

Basically, it's analog 2 - 25, then 480i basic cable on 26 through 30, then 480i broadcast from 71 to 74, then music (40) at 90, then 84.1 starts local HD. Some NY HD comes in at various locations. There may be 50 or so scrambled at 1080i & 480i subchannels, and some other junk, like QVC, scattered around. Only HD channels with clear subchannels are NBC and PBS. All the HD channels have 2 subchannels, usually scrambled. All the 480i channels have 10 or 11 subchannels. The 480i subchannels look almost as good as the HD channels if they start that way, like MSNBC. Both the TV and DHG are set to widen any 480i channel to 16:9. Some become fat, some become letterbox. Except for my local ABC, the other locals are still 4:3 for inhouse content even with an HD signal. The PViX does not handle SD to HD conversion well.

(Let's just say I do a lot of timeshifting.)
post #130 of 476
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Your 43 "Classic Cable" stations are all QAM 'in the clear' along with 8 OTA stations and the 45 'Music' channels?
post #131 of 476
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Your 43 "Classic Cable" stations are all QAM 'in the clear' along with 8 OTA stations and the 45 'Music' channels?

If you are examining the guide it's a little old. The date changed because vsb 15 and 98 swapped last month. It doesn't reflect the NY HD stations or Fox HD from Williamsport. If you notice, ALL Classic Cable tier channels are flagged as "available" in digital. It should say "only available". Those are channels I would get with my free DTA (still in the box). I call them "basic cable" since they are all 480i.

That guide, like TVGOS, shows a lineup that would be possible with a cable card. I get more without the card, but there are duplicates and some triplicates. Since I pay for the HD tier, I get 422 digital channels on the cable card in the Tivo. I probably have 20 enabled as favorites. It's a crazy world.
post #132 of 476
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Are those 43 (or so) 'in the clear' or do you need a card? I assume your system doesn't use SDV?
The "480i" are actually 480p aren't they??
post #133 of 476
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Are those 43 (or so) 'in the clear' or do you need a card? I assume your system doesn't use SDV?
The "480i" are actually 480p aren't they??

I only have one cable card in a Tivo. I could pull it and stick it in a DHG, but I can't find a good reason.

My definitions:
vsb = analog, NTSC, but it may called 480i despite the fact it is 525i. *

480i = digital QAM256, usually called SD. Sometimes used for subchannels on OTA. *

480p = ED, used by the music channels on my cable for album art. *

720p/1080i = HD QAM256 found on "locals" and shopping channels. ABC and FOX are 720p until my cable card or old STB made them into 1080i. **

8vsb = OTA HD, or ATSC. I don't get OTA. **

At a nearby headend they are merging two offices. I found several channels that have a 1080i primary and 720p subchannel. I doubt it will last once they clean up their act. They used to have 50% their basic cable in HD, but that was cleaned up.

Keeping within the thread, without a PSIP or cable card, a EPG is never going to work with raw clear QAM. Good news: not all cable companies strip the PSIP.

* stereo possible
** DD2.0 or DD5.1 possible
post #134 of 476
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480i = digital QAM256, usually called SD.

I believe it is 480p
480i is NTSC.
post #135 of 476
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I believe it is 480p
480i is NTSC.

NTSC is a bunch of people making rules. Same as ATSC. Those were my definitions. You can have yours.

More out of date information:

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_8298327
post #136 of 476
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Joe, those aren't "my" definitions. I don't make standards.
post #137 of 476
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Joe, those aren't "my" definitions. I don't make standards.

Very true. Those people do. They say how things are to be transmitted. Things aren't transmitted "IN" NTSC, they are transmitted how the NTSC says they should be, "vsb". Maybe it's too fine a point. Those NTSC guys said TV video is AM and audio is FM.

There used to be RS-232. Now there is ANSI-232. Those guys got together and decided it was a standard. Before it was just a Recommended Standard. But people still say RS-232. Even me.

Robert A. Heinlein: A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain.
post #138 of 476
Two weeks to go.
post #139 of 476
From PrimeDTV

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PrimeDTV (ePVision.com) Announces Brand-new HDTV Recorder and Media Box, PHD-VRX, for Consumer Market

PrimeDTV is proudly introducing new Full HD 1080p Dual Tuner Digital HDTV Recorder, Receiver and Media Center Box, Model: PHD-VRX, to the market for receiving and recording live digital TV programs from over-the-air antenna or cable signal.

Anaheim, CA March 16, 2012

PrimeDTV’s web store, ePVision.com announces to release brand-new dual tuner HDTV receiver, recorder, on-line video streaming and media center box all-in-one unit in late March 2012. This powerful and feature-rich product is really targeting general consumers with best competitive price in the market today.

PHD-VRX, Full HD 1080p Dual Tuner Digital HDTV Recorder, Receiver and Media Center Box, features many outstanding functions like (1) two physical tuners for watching ATSC, QAM or NTSC channels in any combinations, (2) unit can pause live TV program as well as instant time-shifting current show, (3) recording TV shows to external USB hard disk drive (HDD) anytime, (4) versatile recording methods including direct recording, manual schedule recording or program guide (EPG) recording, (5) acting as media center box to accept many inputs and up-scale video to 1080p, (6) full feature media player to play movie, picture or music files. (7) on-line and home network video streaming capability. (8) useful “QUICK” remote key for easy accessing many useful features.

“We listen to our customers! Our design team strives to make the best HDTV recorder products in the market for consumers with the most attractive price. PHD-VRX is the result! And we are not just stopping here. We will continue to release latest firmware with many brand new features including full feature EPG and more video streaming add-ons on top of our great product.” said PrimeDTV marketing director Gary Lee.

For more information on PrimeDTV full line products offering on their web store, ePVision.com, please visit http://www.epvision.com.

About PrimeDTV / ePVision.com

PrimeDTV is a leading design and manufacturing company in digital video products. Famous for its PHD series of ATSC/QAM DTV Tuner Receiver Set Top Box (STB). The reputations of PHD series STBs have been built up by its high quality video design. PrimeDTV will be continuously producing and release its HD Digital TV Program, PVR Recorder box, PHD-VRX and promoting our current PHD-205LE, PHD-HM5, PHD-8VX through our on-line web store @ ePVision.com.
post #140 of 476
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

From PrimeDTV

That's spooky timing.

$$$ ?
post #141 of 476
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

From PrimeDTV

Ken, where did you see that at? It doesn't look like it's on epvision.com or primedtv.com
post #142 of 476
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

Ken, where did you see that at? It doesn't look like it's on epvision.com or primedtv.com

http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2...web9293570.htm
post #143 of 476
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

That's spooky timing.

$$$ ?

Explain what this comment means.
post #144 of 476
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Explain what this comment means.

a) I post at 9:44 that there is only two weeks left in the quarter and we have no news. 17 minutes later is your post.

b) $$$ is inquiring about cost since it was not in the release that I could see. I guess patience is needed now.
post #145 of 476
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

a) I post at 9:44 that there is only two weeks left in the quarter and we have no news. 17 minutes later is your post.

b) $$$ is inquiring about cost since it was not in the release that I could see. I guess patience is needed now.

Thank you very much. I noticed the same thing about the price, so it may still be under consideration.
post #146 of 476
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Thank you very much. I noticed the same thing about the price, so it may still be under consideration.

No specifics on HDD size or recording duration either. Not a problem if the external storage works. The link for the full user manual gets a 404. Patience. I'm trying. I have reason to worry:

Cable only
I like USA, TNT and FX, which might get scrambled
My cable card support might be screwed due to cable company reorganization.
My TVGOS might die - no more DHG units
I don't get any PSIP data now - EPG is iffy unless internet based and that needs PSIP
I love TV

It's a scary world out there.
post #147 of 476
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The link for the full user manual gets a 404. Patience.

The only link I saw on the press release was for the quick start manual and it worked for me. edit: I found the link for the full manual in the quick start guide and it 404's for me too.

I wish they had put an antenna pass through on it, adding another 3 way splitter on my antenna to feed both tuners and the TV I could see having problems with weak signal strength.
post #148 of 476
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

No specifics on HDD size or recording duration either.


The quick start guide on page 8, says up to 2tb for the H/D.

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/03...rt%20Guide.pdf

"To record TV shows, plug USB 2.0 support Hard Disk Drive (HDD)
or Flash stick with the size from 2GB up to 2TB. PHD‐VRX will
record TV shows on the first USB device plugged in no matter
which USB port is."
post #149 of 476
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

The quick start guide on page 8, says up to 2tb for the H/D.

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/03...rt%20Guide.pdf

"To record TV shows, plug USB 2.0 support Hard Disk Drive (HDD)
or Flash stick with the size from 2GB up to 2TB. PHD‐VRX will
record TV shows on the first USB device plugged in no matter
which USB port is."

If there is no internal storage I call it a tuner with external storage. That's cool, but does explain a lot.
post #150 of 476
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Originally Posted by Kansas_Tom View Post

The only link I saw on the press release was for the quick start manual and it worked for me. edit: I found the link for the full manual in the quick start guide and it 404's for me too.

I wish they had put an antenna pass through on it, adding another 3 way splitter on my antenna to feed both tuners and the TV I could see having problems with weak signal strength.

Both Radio Shack and Channel Master make active (8db gain) 1 to 4 splitters. They need power.
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