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post #121 of 253
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Originally Posted by drfreeman60 View Post

depending on what other HDMI components you are using, you probably want the oppo connected directly to the soundbar. If connected directly to the TV you will only get 2-ch dolby stereo from the soundbar.

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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

It will pass 3d to problem.



Hooking the bd player straight to the sb will enable you to get 5.1 sound. If you went into the tv via hdmi the arc nor the toslink will pass any more than 2.1 to the sb.

Thanks guys. Since the sound bar is only 2.1 anyways, that means I am not losing any audio benefit having the oppo hooked directly to the g25, and then the audio going from the ARC from the g25 back to the sound bar, correct?
post #122 of 253
Just a tip from a previous pana 500 soundbar owner. If your tv is not hanging the bar blocks the tv remote. Also the speaker system sounded a little tin-ee there was good highs and lows but it lacks some mid range freqs. I owned this 2.1 bar system for about a week before I took it back to the store and immediately increased my budget . I passed htib and now I'm searching for a denon receiver and speakers.
post #123 of 253
Has anyone had a chance to compare this with the Sony HT-CT150 or HT-CT350? Both of these seems to get great reviews here as well. Leaning towards the Panny for the wireless sub and to match the tv, but the Sony is tempting for the inputs.
post #124 of 253
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post


Thanks guys. Since the sound bar is only 2.1 anyways, that means I am not losing any audio benefit having the oppo hooked directly to the g25, and then the audio going from the ARC from the g25 back to the sound bar, correct?

Well technically. But the sb has a virtual 5.1 mode that is pretty nice. Besides, it has 3d pass through hdmi. Hook the bd player into the sb then out to the tv's arc port. This will "dump" the bd audio at the bar giving the bar all 5 channels to process then all the other inputs will go through the arc. The bar switches inputs (bd/tv) automatically which is nice. All you need is an extra hdmi cable. With that set up technically you could play bd and get audio on either sb input bc the audio is still being passed to the tv then back down through the arc. But any other input would have to be on tv, the bd input would give no audio.

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Originally Posted by mowczarek View Post

Just a tip from a previous pana 500 soundbar owner. If your tv is not hanging the bar blocks the tv remote. Also the speaker system sounded a little tin-ee there was good highs and lows but it lacks some mid range freqs. I owned this 2.1 bar system for about a week before I took it back to the store and immediately increased my budget . I passed htib and now I'm searching for a denon receiver and speakers.

Well I'll say I disagree. But sb's sound is very dependent on the room. Also if your clearly looking for a full top end ht system (recommend klipch speakers) then a sb is def going to sound bad.

I wish the bar had more than 2 speakers, BUT, it does a great job and the seamless integrating with my vt25 is priceless.
post #125 of 253
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Originally Posted by splackavellie View Post

Has anyone had a chance to compare this with the Sony HT-CT150 or HT-CT350? Both of these seems to get great reviews here as well. Leaning towards the Panny for the wireless sub and to match the tv, but the Sony is tempting for the inputs.

Sony's sub isn't wireless. It has to be up front (designed to be) an all inputs must go through it. Advantage? All inputs go to the sb=sb gets all channels from each input. But as one has already asked here, on a sb it's not really a big deal. I promise you guys that if you have a panny tv, the integration and intelligence the two devices use with each other will make you very happy. IF a sb is what your looking for. I wanted easy, small, great sound. The 500 exceeded every need/want I had.
post #126 of 253
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

Well technically. But the sb has a virtual 5.1 mode that is pretty nice. Besides, it has 3d pass through hdmi. Hook the bd player into the sb then out to the tv's arc port. This will "dump" the bd audio at the bar giving the bar all 5 channels to process then all the other inputs will go through the arc. The bar switches inputs (bd/tv) automatically which is nice. All you need is an extra hdmi cable. With that set up technically you could play bd and get audio on either sb input bc the audio is still being passed to the tv then back down through the arc. But any other input would have to be on tv, the bd input would give no audio.

Care to elaborate on that part a little? I take that as its in "tv" until you switch to the ARC HDMI input?

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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

Sony's sub isn't wireless. It has to be up front (designed to be) an all inputs must go through it. Advantage? All inputs go to the sb=sb gets all channels from each input. But as one has already asked here, on a sb it's not really a big deal. I promise you guys that if you have a panny tv, the integration and intelligence the two devices use with each other will make you very happy. IF a sb is what your looking for. I wanted easy, small, great sound. The 500 exceeded every need/want I had.

I know about the Sony not being wireless but having 3 HDMI inputs is nice. To me that really is the only thing Sony has going for it. Leaning towards the Panny simply for intergration and that it looks nicer with the tv, but ultimately its going to come down to which 1 I can get for a better deal.
post #127 of 253
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post
Sony's sub isn't wireless. It has to be up front (designed to be) an all inputs must go through it. Advantage? All inputs go to the sb=sb gets all channels from each input. But as one has already asked here, on a sb it's not really a big deal. I promise you guys that if you have a panny tv, the integration and intelligence the two devices use with each other will make you very happy. IF a sb is what your looking for. I wanted easy, small, great sound. The 500 exceeded every need/want I had.
Just wanted to toss my 2 cents in as I have a Panny TV and Panny bluray along with the Sony CT350 and they integrate perfectly. Of course when you add in non-CEC components, neither bar is going to recognize them automatically. One other thing....you do not have to connect your components to the CT inputs. Some people don't use them.
post #128 of 253
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Originally Posted by splackavellie
Care to elaborate on that part a little? I take that as its in "tv" until you switch to the ARC HDMI input?
the sb labels two inputs. One is "tv" the other is "bd player". The second input is what ever is hooked into the hdmi in on the sb (could be xbox, etc.) and the "tv" is any input hooked straight to the tv which then uses the arc to send audio to the sb. So I used 2 hdmi cables. Bd player to sb and sb to arc tv input. When I turn on the tv the sb also turns on. And goes into the tv input for tv or xbox or wii etc audio. When I turn on the bd player (also panny) the tv switches to hdmi 1 automatically and the sb switches to the "bd player" input automatically. This gives u the slightly better audio for movies. I can tell the difference when watching a movie with full dd by manually switching bd inputs. Using the input straight from the bd player sounds a bit better. Again I can do this bc the sb receives bd player audio from either sb input. Basically all you have to do is plug in the power, the 2 hdmi's, and in viera link settings turn on viera link and switch audio from tv to ht. Then just go about your business mindlessly. The sb takes control of everything else.
post #129 of 253
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl

Just wanted to toss my 2 cents in as I have a Panny TV and Panny bluray along with the Sony CT350 and they integrate perfectly. Of course when you add in non-CEC components, neither bar is going to recognize them automatically. One other thing....you do not have to connect your components to the CT inputs. Some people don't use them.
Valid point. But then you lose the only advantage over the 500 in extra hdmi ports. And the sub still must be wired. I love having it behind me and I have no room up front anyway.
post #130 of 253
Also just to add. My vt25 is not mounted so the bar was in front and didn't as much block the remote bc I could bounce that off the side wall. But it did block the 3D sensors. I moved it to the middle shelf of the center and it still sounds like the audio comes from the middle of the tv. Not sure how they do it but it's awesome. And now theres no obstruction. Plus the xbox is on top now and it breaths better.
post #131 of 253
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

the sb labels two inputs. One is "tv" the other is "bd player". The second input is what ever is hooked into the hdmi in on the sb (could be xbox, etc.) and the "tv" is any input hooked straight to the tv which then uses the arc to send audio to the sb. So I used 2 hdmi cables. Bd player to sb and sb to arc tv input. When I turn on the tv the sb also turns on. And goes into the tv input for tv or xbox or wii etc audio. When I turn on the bd player (also panny) the tv switches to hdmi 1 automatically and the sb switches to the "bd player" input automatically. This gives u the slightly better audio for movies. I can tell the difference when watching a movie with full dd by manually switching bd inputs. Using the input straight from the bd player sounds a bit better. Again I can do this bc the sb receives bd player audio from either sb input. Basically all you have to do is plug in the power, the 2 hdmi's, and in viera link settings turn on viera link and switch audio from tv to ht. Then just go about your business mindlessly. The sb takes control of everything else.

That's what I thought you meant but thanks for clarifying. Now does the SB automatically switch to bd input b/c you also have a Panasonic BD player? Or it will also switch whenever the device(say PS3) connected to SB is turned on?

Reason I'm interested is that this will essentially defeat the purpose of the the extra HDMI inputs that I wanted from the Sony SB.
post #132 of 253
Hi,
After reading I am still a little confused mainly because of the sales guy I bought the stuff from yesterday.
I bought SC-HTB500 soundbar and a SONY LCD KDL55HX701 and both have ARC HDMI. I also want to hookup my PS3 to it.

The salesperson told me I needed to hookup my Cable box and PS3 directly to the TV with HDMI and uses optical digital to the soundbar for the sound. Everything works but I don't want to use the soundbar remote to control the sound and ended up in this forum.

In summary:
Sony LCD TV with ArcHDMI
PS3
SC-HTB500 soundbar
Need best recommendation on how to hook-up.

Thanks,
post #133 of 253
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Originally Posted by splackavellie View Post

That's what I thought you meant but thanks for clarifying. Now does the SB automatically switch to bd input b/c you also have a Panasonic BD player? Or it will also switch whenever the device(say PS3) connected to SB is turned on?

Reason I'm interested is that this will essentially defeat the purpose of the the extra HDMI inputs that I wanted from the Sony SB.

Thats a good question. I'm not sure if it's the arc viera link or what. It may just be the bar seeing power. Still worth it though, it's one button on the remote to change manually.

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Originally Posted by tkvikings View Post

Hi,
After reading I am still a little confused mainly because of the sales guy I bought the stuff from yesterday.
I bought SC-HTB500 soundbar and a SONY LCD KDL55HX701 and both have ARC HDMI. I also want to hookup my PS3 to it.

The salesperson told me I needed to hookup my Cable box and PS3 directly to the TV with HDMI and uses optical digital to the soundbar for the sound. Everything works but I don't want to use the soundbar remote to control the sound and ended up in this forum.

In summary:
Sony LCD TV with ArcHDMI
PS3
SC-HTB500 soundbar
Need best recommendation on how to hook-up.

Thanks,

You can use optical like he said. What I would do is just hook the ps3 into the sb giving ur movies the full 5.1 sound. and hook the cable box to the tv via component. The reasoning is that HDTV is only 1080i which component (red, blue, green) can handle no problem. This also bypasses the hdmi 5.1 audio rule. The rule says that a device hooked up with hdmi cannot pass the full 5.1 beyond the first device (the tv). But if the box is using component, then the sb will still get 5.1 audio through the arc hdmi.

Hope that makes sense. Box -> component to tv, ps3 -> hdmi to sb, sb -> hdmi to tv's arc. This will give you the best sound. The optical on the 500 is if your tv doesn't have arc.
post #134 of 253
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

You can use optical like he said. What I would do is just hook the ps3 into the sb giving ur movies the full 5.1 sound. and hook the cable box to the tv via component. The reasoning is that HDTV is only 1080i which component (red, blue, green) can handle no problem. This also bypasses the hdmi 5.1 audio rule. The rule says that a device hooked up with hdmi cannot pass the full 5.1 beyond the first device (the tv). But if the box is using component, then the sb will still get 5.1 audio through the arc hdmi.

Hope that makes sense. Box -> component to tv, ps3 -> hdmi to sb, sb -> hdmi to tv's arc. This will give you the best sound. The optical on the 500 is if your tv doesn't have arc.

How is that going to happen if he doesn't connect audio from the cable box? The component connection is only video and if he uses RCA for audio he definitely will only get 2 ch. I'd suggest he do as you said with the PS3 and connect HDMI from sb to TV to make use of ARC (no need for the optical). Leave the cable box connected to TV via HDMI and see whether 5.1 audio is passed through on the ARC. Some people are reporting their Sony TVs are doing that.
post #135 of 253
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl

How is that going to happen if he doesn't connect audio from the cable box? The component connection is only video and if he uses RCA for audio he definitely will only get 2 ch. I'd suggest he do as you said with the PS3 and connect HDMI from sb to TV to make use of ARC (no need for the optical). Leave the cable box connected to TV via HDMI and see whether 5.1 audio is passed through on the ARC. Some people are reporting their Sony TVs are doing that.
My bad. I forgot about that. Yeah that would be the best route to go then. However it won't pass 5.1 through. It's not that arc can't carry it. It's that the tv can't pass it once received through hdmi. The Sony reports are invalid. Some people don't understand real 5.1 or simulated 5.1 and what can or can't pass through. So they see a light and think they are getting it, but they're not.
post #136 of 253
OK, so this is my first post and I will appear like the techo idiot I am. I have a Panasonic TH-50PX6U 50" plasma TV, a Sony Blu-ray my wonderful mother-in-law bought for me for Christmas and a Directv DVR.

First of all all the talk about sb and ARC and all that other talk means nothing to me. I am techo illiterate.

I wanted to buy the Panny soundbar because I am happy with my Panny TV. (a simpleton).

Right now I have my Directv DVR and Sony Blu-ray hooked directly to my Panny. There are only 2 HDMI inputs on my TV.

If I purchase this Panny soundbar (which is all my lovely bride of 40 years will let me purchase) how will I hook it up with only 1 HDMI input? I am so confused, it reminds me of the the 60's when I gave up drugs, booze and sex, it was the worse 24 hours of my life!

I know you guys (and ladies) can help. You can make me look good again in my brides's eyes. Thanking you in advance.
post #137 of 253
What brick and mortar retail stores carry this soundbar? Have not seen it at BB, Sears, HHG etc. Where can I find it available? Online only?
post #138 of 253
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Originally Posted by paulnick9092 View Post

OK, so this is my first post and I will appear like the techo idiot I am. I have a Panasonic TH-50PX6U 50" plasma TV, a Sony Blu-ray my wonderful mother-in-law bought for me for Christmas and a Directv DVR.

First of all all the talk about sb and ARC and all that other talk means nothing to me. I am techo illiterate.

I wanted to buy the Panny soundbar because I am happy with my Panny TV. (a simpleton).

Right now I have my Directv DVR and Sony Blu-ray hooked directly to my Panny. There are only 2 HDMI inputs on my TV.

If I purchase this Panny soundbar (which is all my lovely bride of 40 years will let me purchase) how will I hook it up with only 1 HDMI input? I am so confused, it reminds me of the the 60's when I gave up drugs, booze and sex, it was the worse 24 hours of my life!

I know you guys (and ladies) can help. You can make me look good again in my brides's eyes. Thanking you in advance.

Welcome! This place will have you techno literate in no time, including the "shorthand". Sb is just short for soundbar. ARC is audio return channel, a feature added to TVs and other electronics starting in 2010. Your TV is older than that so don't worry about it.

The Panny soundbar has one HDMI input, one digital optical input and an HDMI output. Connect your BD player to the soundbar via HDMI. Connect the soundbar to your TV via HDMI. That way you have audio direct to the soundbar and the video is passed through to the TV. Leave the DVR connected to the TV as is and use a digital optical cable from the TV to the soundbar. The optical sends audio to the soundbar.
post #139 of 253
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

What brick and mortar retail stores carry this soundbar? Have not seen it at BB, Sears, HHG etc. Where can I find it available? Online only?

Have never spotted this in any brick and mortar store. Available on-line from Amazon -> http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SC-H...5374145&sr=8-1
post #140 of 253
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

What brick and mortar retail stores carry this soundbar? Have not seen it at BB, Sears, HHG etc. Where can I find it available? Online only?

I saw it at Costco yesterday for $249.99. (Scottsdale AZ)
post #141 of 253
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Welcome! This place will have you techno literate in no time, including the "shorthand". Sb is just short for soundbar. ARC is audio return channel, a feature added to TVs and other electronics starting in 2010. Your TV is older than that so don't worry about it.

The Panny soundbar has one HDMI input, one digital optical input and an HDMI output. Connect your BD player to the soundbar via HDMI. Connect the soundbar to your TV via HDMI. That way you have audio direct to the soundbar and the video is passed through to the TV. Leave the DVR connected to the TV as is and use a digital optical cable from the TV to the soundbar. The optical sends audio to the soundbar.

Thanks Possumgirl!
post #142 of 253
Hello

I just got this soundbar on a whim. I have seen talk of the Sony sb HTCT350...I was wondering what would be the better option since they are practically the same price? All your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
post #143 of 253
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Originally Posted by RoWdYrAcKmOuNt View Post

Hello

I just got this soundbar on a whim. I have seen talk of the Sony sb HTCT350...I was wondering what would be the better option since they are practically the same price? All your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Anyone??
post #144 of 253
Have not heard the Panasonic. Most of their home audio equipment has received only passable reviews over the last five or six years. Does not mean the new soundbar is not great. The CT-350 has received excellent reviews both on-line and in various forums. Has much more flexibility and additional features not available from Panasonic. For the same dollars (or even more), my personal choice would be the Sony. I have heard both the Sony CT-150 and 350 and both sound very good to my ears.
post #145 of 253
Hello folks, found this forum from a Google search for "problem connecting the subwoofer on an SC-HTB500".

I bought new Panasonic equipment before Christmas, including a TC-P42G25 TV, a DMP-BD85 BluRay, and the above soundbar. The soundbar has been a bit of a challenge, including that the transmitter for the subwoofer was missing.....

I hooked it up with an HDMI from the BluRay to the soundbar input. Soundbar output to the HDMI 1 (ARC) on the TV. No sound from the soundbar. This is how the instructions showed to connect everything, though the owners manuals are a bit unclear. Three calls to Panasonic and the first two were unproductive. The third gal said I needed an optical cable hooked up to get sound from the TV to the sound bar, and she sounded like she knew...

OK, I ordered and optical cable. while waiting for it to arrive, the soundbar began working with the TV. It works with BluRay as well, hooked up the way I described, and what the manual said. I think the key in hooking this stuff up is to make sure ALL the equipment is powered off before making the connections. I don't know why the gal didn't know that it should work without the optical cable....

My current problem is that the subwoofer won't connect to the soundbar. The red light won't turn green. I plugged the transmitter in after powering the soundbar off, then turned the subwoofer on.... several times....Hmmmnn. I even unplugged the router and the cordless phone that are in the same room. Looks like another call to Panasonic (and hope I get a knowledgable CSA)

Take Care
post #146 of 253
I am looking at putting several of these in a beach house. I'm somewhat concerned about the wireless aspect of the subwoofer linkage.

There are only so many channels of 2.4G usable before bad things start to happen with overlap! I haven't heard of any way to control what channel the sub and main system will use for connection.

Anybody have experience with this kind of setup?

Thanks!
post #147 of 253
I have one in a room where I have:

- a wi-fi range extender for wi-fi connection
- a PS3 (connected to a wi-fi router through the range extender)
- a WII (again, connected to a wi-fi router through the range extender)
- a SKY satellite receiver
- a Panasonic 50" VT20 (again, connected to a wi-fi router through the range extender)
- an a/v wireless and IR transmitter (operating on 5.8 and not 2.4)
- a cordless phone

and everything works fine so far (tough it's less than one week that I have the SC-HTB500).

The subwoofer is about 5 mts. from the soundbar.

Not sure if this answers your question, anyway hope it helps.
post #148 of 253
And yet another person wandering in from the internet.

I'm thinking of getting this as a gift for someone, and I'm almost certain I'm going to have to help them install it, so if someone wouldn't mind answering some questions, it would be much appreciated.

1) They have a Pany TH-42PZ80U, with a PVR cable box and a PS3 hooked up to the TV with HDMI. I'd assume they'd want both the TV and PS3 audio using the sound bar. After reading about ARC, are the 42PZ80U HDMI ports ARC compatible (or at least one of them)? I've been scouring the net trying to figure out if it is or not without much success.

2) If the TV they have is ARC compatible, does the cable have to be HDMI High Speed or can they just be the HDMI Standard cables?

3) If the TV isn't ARC compatible, would the Sony HTCT350 sound bar (the same price locally) be the better choice since it has the multiple HDMI ports? Or is there a way to set things up, more simple the better, with the Pany HTB500 without ARC and have both devices using the sound bar? I know there are other pros and cons like the HTCT350 sub needing LOS to the remote, but the main thing is just hooking things up so there's minimum clutter.

Thanks in advance!
post #149 of 253
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Originally Posted by Exand View Post

And yet another person wandering in from the internet.

I'm thinking of getting this as a gift for someone, and I'm almost certain I'm going to have to help them install it, so if someone wouldn't mind answering some questions, it would be much appreciated.

1) They have a Pany TH-42PZ80U, with a PVR cable box and a PS3 hooked up to the TV with HDMI. I'd assume they'd want both the TV and PS3 audio using the sound bar. After reading about ARC, are the 42PZ80U HDMI ports ARC compatible (or at least one of them)? I've been scouring the net trying to figure out if it is or not without much success.

2) If the TV they have is ARC compatible, does the cable have to be HDMI High Speed or can they just be the HDMI Standard cables?

3) If the TV isn't ARC compatible, would the Sony HTCT350 sound bar (the same price locally) be the better choice since it has the multiple HDMI ports? Or is there a way to set things up, more simple the better, with the Pany HTB500 without ARC and have both devices using the sound bar? I know there are other pros and cons like the HTCT350 sub needing LOS to the remote, but the main thing is just hooking things up so there's minimum clutter.

Thanks in advance!

That TV is a 2008 model so it doesn't have ARC, which was introduced with 2010 models. You don't have to use high speed HDMI cables.

Here's a post I made about a week ago in this thread to answer a question similar to yours. Just substitute PVR for DVR and PS3 for BD.

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The Panny soundbar has one HDMI input, one digital optical input and an HDMI output. Connect your BD player to the soundbar via HDMI. Connect the soundbar to your TV via HDMI. That way you have audio direct to the soundbar and the video is passed through to the TV. Leave the DVR connected to the TV and use a digital optical cable from the TV to the soundbar. The optical sends audio to the soundbar.
post #150 of 253
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Originally Posted by Exand View Post

And yet another person wandering in from the internet.

I'm thinking of getting this as a gift for someone, and I'm almost certain I'm going to have to help them install it, so if someone wouldn't mind answering some questions, it would be much appreciated.

1) They have a Pany TH-42PZ80U, with a PVR cable box and a PS3 hooked up to the TV with HDMI. I'd assume they'd want both the TV and PS3 audio using the sound bar. After reading about ARC, are the 42PZ80U HDMI ports ARC compatible (or at least one of them)? I've been scouring the net trying to figure out if it is or not without much success.

2) If the TV they have is ARC compatible, does the cable have to be HDMI High Speed or can they just be the HDMI Standard cables?

3) If the TV isn't ARC compatible, would the Sony HTCT350 sound bar (the same price locally) be the better choice since it has the multiple HDMI ports? Or is there a way to set things up, more simple the better, with the Pany HTB500 without ARC and have both devices using the sound bar? I know there are other pros and cons like the HTCT350 sub needing LOS to the remote, but the main thing is just hooking things up so there's minimum clutter.

Thanks in advance!

Without the ARC advantage and if you can really pick up that 350 for the same price, I'd get that... unless of course you really want the wireless sub.
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