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post #91 of 119
I'd play if you need to fill some spots, depending on when it is. Although it looks like one of the SG members is a diamond player so it'll probably be a pretty one sided tourney :P
post #92 of 119
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Haha yeah, Bronze vs Diamon makes for a quick match.
post #93 of 119
yeah. its for fun I'm hoping to learn a few things along the way
post #94 of 119
Just a question I just upgraded my ram for this game. I only get about 4 fps increase. I went from 2gb to 4gb.

Is this about normal? Does ram not really help fps?

This is the ram i have. I mixed and matched brands. Note that my patriot ram is now running at 5-5-5-16 timing. I did not want to crank my voltage up to 2.2 to get 4-4-4-12. At 1.8v it runs at 5-5-5-16 the ocz gold says it runs on new egg at 5-5-5-15, is this a problem, or will it just run both ram at the same timings. CPU-Z says 4096 memory, at 5-5-5-16. Can anyone make sure these two wont cause problems. System recognizes ram, i optimized it with mz ram.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-144-_-Product


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-124-_-Product
post #95 of 119
No, increasing RAM does not typically help FPS much, unless you were previously running out, and the game needs to use virtual memory to run.

I don't think mixing and matching brands will cause problems. You will get BSOD's and it'll be pretty obvious if issues start arising.
post #96 of 119
if the ram is different, the higher clocked ones will be underclocked to match the slower of the 2.
post #97 of 119
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Game CPU (up to 2 cores only ) and GPU intensive. As stated above, your slower ram will make the faster ram run slower.
post #98 of 119
Bought the game last week and now I play whenever I can. Now I want to change my computer... last night I was playing with 2 friends against 3 computers, my system was slowing down when carriers were on-screen or when the big battles were going on. I run the game on high and last night was the only time I switched it to medium. Guess I'll just ask my teamates to stop using carriers or only play 2vs2 since I didn't have issues previously.

My old 2003 desktop 2.6 dual core with 2Gb ram and a 8800 GT is getting old
post #99 of 119
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Ha I upgraded my system too but not for this game, just same as you it was a told desktop 2004 and I wanted to be up to date.
PS I think its your card that caused the slow down. When I have the 9800GT in my system it will slow down when too much stuff is on the screen.
I have not had that issue with the ATI5850 at all.
post #100 of 119
My rig crashed about a month before this game hit. Enough reason for me to buy new gear

Pro SC2 gamers actually play on the lowest settings so that they can see as much of what is going on as possible. So if you're stuck on low-med settings you could always think of it as playing with an edge :P
post #101 of 119
My system would need an update to bring it to today's standard but I'm mostly waiting for Diablo 3 before changing my rig Most of my gaming is done on my PS3 now.

However, I've been watching this computer for a couple of months and it's on sale this week... decisions,decisions

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...ed8ce3a36ben02


Thanks for the tips about the nvidia card, might have to check my drivers to see if anything can be done to prevent the slow-down
post #102 of 119
That's a pretty pricey rig. And it only has a 5770?? 12gb of ram, huge overkill.

Honestly, just popping a 5770 or GTX460 in your rig should let you play SC2 on high and get you through to D3.
post #103 of 119
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Originally Posted by krimson View Post

That's a pretty pricey rig. And it only has a 5770?? 12gb of ram, huge overkill.

Honestly, just popping a 5770 or GTX460 in your rig should let you play SC2 on high and get you through to D3.

Yeah I might just buy a new video card and give this 8800GT to a friend. I saw other computers with almost the same card and 8GB ram for less, it would be a better choice IF I decide to change computer.

Thanks for tip, a 200$ update is better than 1500$ I just don't know if my power supply is enough for the new card??
post #104 of 119
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I was going to warn you about that. What is your power supply? Most of the newer video cards are monsters on the power. So price a decent 600+ watt power supply (check video card spec first) and the video card.

If not I was looking into ths system months ago Gateway
but had my own built. And yes I went with 12 gigs of ram for overkill (no its not needed)but then I need a system to last me 4 to 5 years. I do a lot of gaming/moving playing and some burning during movie watching.

Gone are my days of yearly upgrades..married life and all that :P
post #105 of 119
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

I was going to warn you about that. What is your power supply? Most of the newer video cards are monsters on the power. So price a decent 600+ watt power supply (check video card spec first) and the video card.

If not I was looking into ths system months ago Gateway
but had my own built. And yes I went with 12 gigs of ram for overkill but then I need a system to last me 4 to 5 years.

Gone are my days of yearly upgrades..married life and all that :P

nice setup, almost the same but less costy! Yeah 12Gb is overkill but still why not I'm like you, I hate upgrading every years.. in fact this computer is from 2003

I think the 5770 need 450Watts and so does my 8800GT

Otherwise, this could be better :

http://www.futureshop.ca/fr-CA/produ...9cdc547f8afr02


8Gb Ram, I7,5770 also.

for 100$ less at BB : http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...7bd00f8e54en02

i-5, 8 Gb Ram, 5570.
post #106 of 119
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No I dont HATE upgrading, I love it in fact, too much. Just I can't justify my hobby with other things that I need to do first is all

Get at least 6 gigs of ram, decent power supply and video card and you should be set for a bit. Throw in a 1gig or more Hard drive and you are good to go. If you really want to have fun, get two lower end cards and run those. I swore I would never do that again when I paid $500 for 2 voodoo 2meg cards. My how things have changed. You can easily play that for one top of the line card these days. (yes I said voodoo FX)

If you can build (and have the time) look into barebones systems. Until my last system I have always built my own, which I prefer. But two year olds who want to help just slows the process down for me
post #107 of 119
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

No I dont HATE upgrading, I love it in fact, too much. Just I can't justify my hobby with other things that I need to do first is all

Get at least 6 gigs of ram, decent power supply and video card and you should be set for a bit. Throw in a 1gig or more Hard drive and you are good to go. If you really want to have fun, get to lower end cards and run those. I swore I would never do that again when I paid $500 for 2 voodoo 2meg cards. My how things have changed. You can easily play that for one top of the line card these days. (yes I said voodoo FX)

If you can build (and have the time) look into barebones systems. Until my last system I have always built my own, which I prefer. But two year olds who want to help just slows the process down for me

I can't build it from scratch (never tried) but I can change parts easily. I have a friend that could buy my system tho. I should check if he got time, I know he's supposed to build one for another friend so.

Memories... Voodoo FX wow
post #108 of 119
Building a rig from scratch isn't really that difficult.

I put together an i7 system earlier this year in prep for SC2. I ended up spending more for a solid state drive for the boot drive, and then a 1TB secondary drive. It screams and plays SC2 just fine at the highest settings.
post #109 of 119
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Originally Posted by Taxi View Post

Building a rig from scratch isn't really that difficult.

I put together an i7 system earlier this year in prep for SC2. I ended up spending more for a solid state drive for the boot drive, and then a 1TB secondary drive. It screams and plays SC2 just fine at the highest settings.

True, I can't say I can't do it since I never tried it
post #110 of 119
What do you think about this sytem?

I-5 650, 6 GB RAM, ATI 5570,

On sale this week for 100$ less so I could use this 100$ to buy more RAM. In the specs it seems to say the power supply is 300 Watts tho.. weird

http://www.futureshop.ca/FR-CA/product/id/10145518.aspx
post #111 of 119
Thread Starter 
Gets the job done and not pricey. Power supply looks to be a bit weak.
post #112 of 119
5570 is pretty weak. I doubt you could even play SC2 on high with that. Definitely not setting yourself up with a rig to demolish D3 when it comes out, and the 300watt PSU doesn't leave you in a position to take your gold expansion ... err i mean, upgrade. :P

The problem with these pre-built PC's from HP and whoever else is that they build to marketability more so then performance. Good CPU, lots of Ram, lots of HDD space. But then you get a budget level video card, terrible PSU, no-name motherboard, etc etc.

I'd recommend trying a site like ncix.com where you can spec your own rig and they build it for you (if you don't want to build it yourself). Their prices are really good too. I'm sure you could build an i5 w/ 8gb and a GTX 460 for a pretty reasonable price.
post #113 of 119
Thanks for the tips guys. I'll see what I'll do with my rig first. Maybe I'll just put another graphic card in it to see if it improves the performances.
post #114 of 119
I'm thinking of getting this game. Is this a game where matches could last for many hours or even days like Galactic Civilizations? If so, how does that work when playing online?
post #115 of 119
Most matches in my experience are done in under 30 minutes. A really long match is an hour long.
post #116 of 119
I think 15 minutes is pretty average, games are usually decided within the first 2-3 pushes. Anything over an hour is abnormally long and usually only happens if someone is heavily turtling or a match is close to being a draw.

There is tons of pro-level games on youtube with commentaries if you want to get a feel of the game flow before buying it.
post #117 of 119
I don't care for the forum software that battle.net uses. Can someone recommend another Starcraft 2 forum?
post #118 of 119
teamliquid.net - Pretty Pro/Elitist forum, but the best source of information if you're wanting to learn. The site is a great hub even if you don't post in the forums. There is a really good strategy oriented wiki, stream listings, tournament info, etc etc.
sc2armory.com - More relaxed, and more intro-level information
post #119 of 119
Thanks. That wiki does look good.
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