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post #1171 of 3327
2/8/11 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post


I did. I sold it to help fund the 65VT30 purchase. The grayscale was calibrated on the set, and then tweaked with the Duo. CMS and Gamma were done with the Duo. Im speaking above as S2 with no Duo.

After I let it go a couple of weeks ago, I just used the Chroma 5 and the 21% red/white adjustment, and adjusted tint for cyan. This is kinda where I wish it had a THX color ability. The charts Ive seen show the colors to look better on the CIE chart, as opposed to the S2, unless Im missing something??

I was under the impression THX mode gave you pretty accurate color, as well as properly set brightness. Just needs a grayscale adjustment, which I assumed ( ) to be better than what the S2 could do.

You don't calibrate a S2 like that. Use the color setting I recommended for that set and tweak from there.
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post #1172 of 3327
2/8/11 at 4:54pm
OK, thanks. Will give those in the 2010 a try. Appreciate the help.

What are your thoughts on a THX vs non THX model. Is it worth the $400?
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post #1173 of 3327
2/8/11 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

OK, thanks. Will give those in the 2010 a try. Appreciate the help.

What are your thoughts on a THX vs non THX model. Is it worth the $400?

I don't know how the st30 will perform post calibration. Ditto on the GT and VT.
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post #1174 of 3327
2/8/11 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I don't know how the st30 will perform post calibration. Ditto on the GT and VT.



Understood. On your settings, I remember now, when I first got the set, I used DVE and the Spears and Munsil disc, and my user menu settings for color and tint were very close to yours.
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post #1175 of 3327
2/8/11 at 5:31pm
D-Nice, I think you said somewhere that this year's 40% higher contrast was split 30%/10% due to improved brightness and improved black, respectively. Does that mean we should expect MLL to be only 10% lower than last year's?
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post #1176 of 3327
2/8/11 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by CantTouchThis View Post

D-Nice, I think you said somewhere that this year's 40% higher contrast was split 30%/10% due to improved brightness and improved black, respectively. Does that mean we should expect MLL to be only 10% lower than last year's?

Here is the exchange from HDJ:

D-Nice
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That 40% contrast is only being promoted for bright rooms.

Don't expect miracles in the MLLs for these panels, but they will be better than the VT25.

Robert
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Would you say my information is correct that the 40% increase in contrast ration is split by 25% coming from the increase in brightness and 15% is due to the increase in black level.

D-Nice
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30/10 split
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post #1177 of 3327
2/8/11 at 6:59pm
That's right. I guess he also said that this year's Panasonics will have improved performance mostly in brightly lit rooms (through higher brightness and better anti-reflective screen filters) and not so much in dark rooms (which hopefully will be addressed next year).
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post #1178 of 3327
2/8/11 at 7:01pm
Yeah, the newer filter is supposed to help with bright room viewing.
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post #1179 of 3327
2/8/11 at 8:22pm
As far as release dates, Im a bit confussed,,,,I see release dates for the 65" sizes listed as:

March ST30 65"
April GT30 65"
May VT30 65"

Then I see it said that none of the 65" screen sizes will be coming out until May.

These are all dates I have seen listed on this thread.

How much of the information on release dates is guessing and how much is fact,,,, does anyone know the actual true release dates of the 65" screen sizes ????

Thanks in advance

Cheers
Davyo
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post #1180 of 3327
2/8/11 at 8:25pm
VE

the 55" VT are due the end of April and the 65" will be May

End of February 2011 50" GT30 and 55" GT30, 60" GT30 and 65" GT30
May '11.

End of February 2011 42ST30, 46ST30, 50ST30 and 55ST30. May, 60ST30 and 65ST30.


These are from the factory, and subject to change. May update end of this week.
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post #1181 of 3327
2/8/11 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

VE

the 55" VT are due the end of April and the 65" will be May

End of February 2011 50" GT30 and 55" GT30, 60" GT30 and 65" GT30
May '11.

End of February 2011 42ST30, 46ST30, 50ST30 and 55ST30. May, 60ST30 and 65ST30.


These are from the factory, and subject to change. May update end of this week.

May.. damn how are you VT guys going hold it together.
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post #1182 of 3327
2/8/11 at 8:31pm
Its hard especially when end of May was mentioned today.

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post #1183 of 3327
2/8/11 at 10:32pm
It just gives me more time to get more contracts so I can actually pay for this thing. If things go like Jan and the first have of Feb., I'll be cancelling my order and really crying. Feeding my family has to come before buying a new TV.
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post #1184 of 3327
2/9/11 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

VE

the 55" VT are due the end of April and the 65" will be May

End of February 2011 50" GT30 and 55" GT30, 60" GT30 and 65" GT30
May '11.

End of February 2011 42ST30, 46ST30, 50ST30 and 55ST30. May, 60ST30 and 65ST30.


These are from the factory, and subject to change. May update end of this week.

Thanks Elway,,, look forward to the update this week.

Cheers
Davyo
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post #1185 of 3327
2/9/11 at 5:47am
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It just gives me more time to get more contracts so I can actually pay for this thing. If things go like Jan and the first have of Feb., I'll be cancelling my order and really crying. Feeding my family has to come before buying a new TV.

I heard that.

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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Thanks Elway,,, look forward to the update this week.

Cheers
Davyo


No prob. If the dates change, and I notice, Ill try and post em here.
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post #1186 of 3327
2/9/11 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by ckenisell View Post

It just gives me more time to see if the blacks rise or float. If things go like Jan and the first have of Feb., I'll be cancelling my order and really crying. Feeding my family has to come before buying a new TV.

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post #1187 of 3327
2/9/11 at 7:35am
Don't do that. I didn't say that.
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post #1188 of 3327
2/9/11 at 8:05am
so in a few weeks both the 50 inch GT30 & ST30 will be hiting the show rooms.if the dates dont change awesome news.
cant waite to see what the ST30 will be able to do even though
iam geting the GT30
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post #1189 of 3327
2/9/11 at 8:13am
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post
VE

the 55" VT are due the end of April and the 65" will be May

End of February 2011 50" GT30 and 55" GT30, 60" GT30 and 65" GT30
May '11.

End of February 2011 42ST30, 46ST30, 50ST30 and 55ST30. May, 60ST30 and 65ST30.


These are from the factory, and subject to change. May update end of this week.
Good to know. Thanks. Now I have to decide between the 55" GT30 or 55" VT30. Decisions decisions
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post #1190 of 3327
2/9/11 at 8:18am
60 gt
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post #1191 of 3327
2/9/11 at 9:12am
From avjunkie at HDJ, with regards to the VT30:

"in reference to the frame interpolation mode..with "soap opera effect" this is quite the exaggeration. I've played with this mode at CES. i've turned it up to the maximum setting and the minimum setting and noticed very little change. in no way is this mode emulating the look of led/lcd sets "
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post #1192 of 3327
2/9/11 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by ckenisell View Post

Feeding my family has to come before buying a new TV.

No offense, but if that's a real concern, how are you even contemplating buying an expensive plasma?
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post #1193 of 3327
2/9/11 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

From avjunkie at HDJ, with regards to the VT30:

"in reference to the frame interpolation mode..with "soap opera effect" this is quite the exaggeration. I've played with this mode at CES. i've turned it up to the maximum setting and the minimum setting and noticed very little change. in no way is this mode emulating the look of led/lcd sets "

Even on my S2, which supposedly has some interpolation when the "Blur Reduction" setting is enabled, it doesn't look anything like what my brother-in-laws new Sammy LED-LCD does when he turns on the smooth-motion (or whatever it's called). I can't even tell the difference on my plasma, but on his LCD the difference is night & day (and it's not pretty!).
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post #1194 of 3327
2/9/11 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by jason4207 View Post

Even on my S2, which supposedly has some interpolation when the "Blur Reduction" setting is enabled, it doesn't look anything like what my brother-in-laws new Sammy LED-LCD does when he turns on the smooth-motion (or whatever it's called). I can't even tell the difference on my plasma, but on his LCD the difference is night & day (and it's not pretty!).

This feature is new and not the same as Blur Reduction, AFAIK. I think its more like the MJC on Samsungs, but not sure.

The effect is visible, from reports.
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post #1195 of 3327
2/9/11 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Yeah, the newer filter is supposed to help with bright room viewing.

The new filter is specific to the VT30 though, isn't it? Their "Infinite Black 2" panel marketing? Or did they upgrade the filter on all models? My only option for TV location gets a lot of light during the day so I'm interested in this.
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post #1196 of 3327
2/9/11 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

This feature is new and not the same as Blur Reduction, AFAIK. I think its more like the MJC on Samsungs, but not sure.

The effect is visible, from reports.

"Motion Smoother"
and the settings are off/weak/strong
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post #1197 of 3327
2/9/11 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by funsocaltiger View Post

The new filter is specific to the VT30 though, isn't it? Their "Infinite Black 2" panel marketing? Or did they upgrade the filter on all models? My only option for TV location gets a lot of light during the day so I'm interested in this.

Not sure on other models, but VT is new.

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"Motion Smoother"
and the settings are off/weak/strong

Is that MJC, or what Panny is calling it?

Thanks for the input.
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post #1198 of 3327
2/9/11 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Is that MJC, or what Panny is calling it?

"Motion smoother" is a panny term from the manual.
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post #1199 of 3327
2/9/11 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by VFR View Post

"Motion smoother" is a panny term from the manual.

Thanks!
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post #1200 of 3327
2/9/11 at 2:10pm
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No offense, but if that's a real concern, how are you even contemplating buying an expensive plasma?

None taken as long as you don't take offense when I say it's none of your business.
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