2011 Panasonic Plasma [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 87

I dunno, just because that stack of invitation letters have been addressed and sorted, that doesn't mean they've been mailed.

I wonder why someone didn't press the guy on exactly what he means, or get clarification or verification if these issues have actually been fixed or not.

Sorted means... taken care of or resolved.

"black levels will no longer rise after initial use to compensate for panel aging"

If they said that, then that implies that the problem should be eliminated.

Or it means that black levels will rise for other reasons other than compensating for panel aging.

this thread has become a train wreck:

I would ask that we move on please

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Thank god.

I don't understand the issue.... The guy said that black levels no longer rise..... "There's now no black level shift to compensate for stabilising brightness levels after initial use"

I'm sorry but do you have a link to where you read that? That sounds pretty clear to me.

I guess it depends on "who" said it.. but people have been known to say one thing and be wrong before too..so everything is with a little salt nowadays.

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-proclaim...asma-tvs/4241/

Yah I have to agree with that.


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The newer VT30 is suppose to be brighter. The VT25 seems very dark to me. These sets are always displayed in a dark room but in a brightly lit room the picture will look more washed out. 30% should make a world of differnece. Do you guys know if all their sets will have the new brighter, faster phosophors?

Hype....Good, bad, proof is in the pudding. Cant wait till the VT30 comes out.

I remember him saying this, as well. If that's the case, then it's .0035 ish.

Flatpanels is not to be trusted, when it comes to MLL.

Also, I don't get it, why I keep readring 0.004ftl on this board for the VT20, cause Katzmaier measured 0.009 cd/m2 last year, what would mean 0.0027 ftl.

They measured 0.03 cd/m2 for the G10 also.

They measured a 9G Kuro at .02 candelas

The other thing about that review- mention of black level for the GT30 is compared to 2010 high end models, plural.

So what does that mean? It can't be a comparison to the GT25 that they reviewed since it was measuring .06 cd/m^2 on their meter. I think the VT25 measured .04 and the G20 was .03, so who knows what it'll be.

I took more stock in the GT30/VT30 comparison photo from the Panasonic employee. I mean, since it was taken on a cell phone, I don't know what that'll be, either.

The only person who I think knows is D-Nice and he was saying the VT30 will be between 8 and 9G Kuro in MLL. There was also mention of the GT being similar in performance to the ST.

We'll find out next week.

David does not report measurements in cd/m2. He does fL just like everyone else in America. He also did not measure .0027fL. He measured .004fL like everyone else.

I think you mean 0.007ftL.

No I did not mean .007fL as .007fL was after the first rise.

Darn, I guess their GT30 reviews mll measurement is not to be trusted I'm just hoping that GT30 would be close to VT25 black levels.

Is it true that the new frame interpolation feature is limited to just 3d mode and not 2d? Also how aggressive is it compared to the c8000? From what I read on a few posts with info copied from cnet that seems to be the case with the st and gt models but it doesnt say anything about the vt30 model. I was considering a sammy d7000 or d8000 but since they removed mjc from this years models i am now seriously considering a gt30 or vt30 if panasonic has added this feature to 2d.

Oh, sorry, than I mistook the 0.009 cd/m2 emasurement with hdtvtest.co.ok

on their website they mention both a 3d 24p cinema smoother and a 24p cinema smoother...so my guess would be both.

V20 and VT20? Both had the same MLL.

Either way, I wouldn't stress over the language used. It's a translated review after all.

This is true considering that the reviewer didn't even notice a difference between the G20 and the VT25 in mll.

I think there's something wrong with the meter over at hdtvtest.

They use the best meter for the task.

For the 50VT20 and V20 plasmas they measured .0026 fL and for the 46VT20 they got .0037 fL.

Interestingly, hdtvtest measures ANSI contrast nowadays and for the 46VT20 they got something like .01 fL. So like you were saying earlier, the 2011 range seems to have an advantage here by holding on to the same black level.

Has it been confirmed that the GT30 will do 24p/96Hz?.