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post #2941 of 3635
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

Not to derail this thread, but it looks like VLC is the only one which has any semblance of proper support for forced PGS subtitles in MKVs! I still have jmpage2's sample, and it hasn't played back properly on any streamer yet. On the PC too, it works only with VLC, and even VLC leaves the forced subtitles on for more duration than it should.

If someone has the files, i would like to try it out on popbox.
post #2942 of 3635
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post


If someone has the files, i would like to try it out on popbox.

Doesn't work on popbox I already tried
post #2943 of 3635
1) It's weird people are complaining about TV antennas, which were used for generations of viewers and exist on most homes today, albeit unused.

2) I moved into the "you can't cancel" state with Amazon, but got no tracking number or ship confirm, so I'm guessing it's not coming tomorrow and still shows Nov. 12. Jealous of those of you with shipping info.

UPDATE: Just got an e-mail from Amazon. And my box is in transit to Fed Ex, arriving tomorrow.
post #2944 of 3635
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

The new Netgear is reported to pass this test in betas, and I thought that the Sage also did it.

The Dune, PCH, WD and Seagate players, along with most others do not automatically detect forced subtitles in MKVs.

Neither does XBMC.

Doesn't the C200 work with forced subtitles?
I know one of the test MKVs I created from Avatar using MakeMKV works with my C200.
The subtitles automatically appear with no interaction from me for the Na'vi language when I play it with my C200.
post #2945 of 3635
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

1) It's weird people are complaining about TV antennas, which were used for generations of viewers and exist on most homes today, albeit unused.

2) I moved into the "you can't cancel" state with Amazon, but got no tracking number or ship confirm, so I'm guessing it's not coming tomorrow and still shows Nov. 12. Jealous of those of you with shipping info.

I've run into a handful of people that are actually amazed that you can receive TV from an antenna without cable TV. But the really surprising thing was that these were not young people but people in their late 40's and 50's. People that I would have expected to have grown up with TV using an antenna.

I'm in my mid 40's and I remember ifrom the early 70's to the late 70's my Dad would always have either me or my brother go outside to rotate the antenna for him. There were a pair of vice grips on the pole and pieces of tape that marked the location to get the Washington DC stations and the Baltimore stations. So we would rotate it toward whatever city we wnated to watch programming from. Our neighborhood didn't get cable TV until 1980.
post #2946 of 3635
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

1) It's weird people are complaining about TV antennas, which were used for generations of viewers and exist on most homes today, albeit unused.

2) I moved into the "you can't cancel" state with Amazon, but got no tracking number or ship confirm, so I'm guessing it's not coming tomorrow and still shows Nov. 12. Jealous of those of you with shipping info.

I ordered back on September 10 with Amazon Prime one day shipping and mine still says shipping soon. Starting to wonder if it's shipping to me today.
post #2947 of 3635
Just got an email from Amazon saying my Boxee Box shipped! I ordered 1-day shipping. So i guess I'll be getting it tomorrow!
post #2948 of 3635
What is forced subtitles? and why is this important?

PS: I do like subtitles as my hearing is not as good as it used to be.
post #2949 of 3635
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Originally Posted by ben12345 View Post

What is forced subtitles? and why is this important?

PS: I do like subtitles as my hearing is not as good as it used to be.

A movie like avatar where there are scenes when a non primary language is spoken ( ie when the smurfs talk)
post #2950 of 3635
Also adding that mine shipped with delivery for tomorrow. Can't wait!
post #2951 of 3635
Just returned from a visit to my friendly FS.

I was told they are "out back" (only five at this store). They cannot be sold until the November 10th. Yes, we all know this is the official date. There are three Futureshop's in my area. So much for pre-order.

I'll pick one up after work if any left. ;-)
post #2952 of 3635
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Originally Posted by yhz.hrm View Post
Just returned from a visit to my friendly FS.

I was told they are "out back" (only five at this store). They cannot be sold until the November 10th. Yes, we all know this is the official date. There are three Futureshop's in my area. So much for pre-order.

I'll pick one up after work if any left. ;-)
This is true for Canada only I beleive...In the US its still the 17th for B&M stores.
post #2953 of 3635
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post
I really don't think you want to be bringing up usenet and downloads in this thread. If you have something to add on the other hand...
He did, that people can use downloads.

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Originally Posted by palehorse View Post
I'm guessing -- and that's all it is, a guess -- that a lack of Netflix is the exact reason none of these have made it into the hands of reviewers. After all, the sound of several thousand pre-order cancelations would seriously put a damper on the mood Wednesday night.

I hope I'm wrong.
Well it matters zero to the majority of markets, ie those outside the US where Netflix is not available at all. On the other hand all I've read about Netflix says they want to be available on everything. So it seems likely it would appear for the US citizens soon or later.


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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post
The only reservations I have with the Boxee software is that most internet content is junk.
Next year the BBC will start a global streaming service of their shows


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Originally Posted by GhostXtreme View Post
Boxee PC browser ? Boxee Box browser is based on WebKit with hardware video flash acceleration.
He is asking what the difference between the PC and the box is.

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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post
Well, Comcast does that too (putting ads at the bottom when you are paying premium prices), so you are stuck with that unless you cut the cord completely.
So when that article talks about ads on "the site" - it means the interface in the box??

Well, that other people do amoral things doesn't mean everybody else has to do it. That would be a big problem if they started doing that (unless they pay me for it).


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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post
As for advertising on the clean GUI, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Now I do!

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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post
In fact, I am impressed with Boxee Box specs because it looks like it can be a good local media streamer like the WDTVs and TViXes and the other Sigma / Realtek solutions.
Do you think the Box will play back the formats as the PC version does equally well? Supported formats

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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post
If you cut out the Internet connection (just restrict the box to your local network),
1. It sort of ruins of having an internet device.
2. What if they snuck some adds in before you did that
post #2954 of 3635
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post
He did, that people can use downloads.
You seem to be under some kind of mistaken impression that it is okay here to discuss acquiring your content via usenet. It is not okay to discuss usenet, torrents, etc, as ways of acquiring content.
post #2955 of 3635
I searched high and low. What's the word about Boxee Box supporting UPNP or DLNA? It would suck to have a box that only services one room in the house.

Thanks for any info on this.
post #2956 of 3635
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Originally Posted by 720p View Post
Thanks (too bad there is no thanks button like other forums). I just checked the price in UK and it's over 320usd(199gbp)! and they don't have netflix/vudu/etc. Must be very rich, crazy or both to pre-order I think.
That's what things mostly cost in Europe. In comparison america gets things dirt cheap. Revue is 299? Europe should be so lucky.


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Originally Posted by MitsuHelp View Post
Unfortunately it's our sad world now..
Yeah. Damn them :-/


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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post
Hmmmmm This one was posted by TigerDirectBlog:

"This video is private."




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Originally Posted by dyevin View Post
since not everyone has time or wants to read all forums discussing this box here is the most recent list of features from the boxee forum:

Firmware updates will be automatic and mandatory
Ok, that is a problem. Unless, like with the WDTV, you can trick it into download grading again.
post #2957 of 3635
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Originally Posted by yhz.hrm View Post
I searched high and low. What's the word about Boxee Box supporting UPNP or DLNA? It would suck to have a box that only services one room in the house.

Thanks for any info on this.
It will work!!
post #2958 of 3635
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
Sagetv does not support forced subs in mkvs. I thought xbmc had added support
XBMC has it filed as a bug but it's still been busted in every Dharma beta I have tried. PGS subs are also broken (and I suspect they will be on the Boxee as well) in the sense that they linger on the screen for longer than needed, to the point that it gets annoying.
post #2959 of 3635
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post
Ok, that is a problem. Unless, like with the WDTV, you can trick it into download grading again.
This is usually a requirement for premium content support. Vudu and others don't want to patch a security hole and then have users have a choice of whether or not they update to it.

For the truly paranoid simply build a rule in your internet router that prevents the Boxee from phoning home at all, it will act like it's not connected to the internet, or simply black list the URL/IP that it goes to when it is checking for a new firmware.
post #2960 of 3635
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post
"This video is private."
It wasnt for most fo the day, it appears someone may have let this slip a little early.....
post #2961 of 3635
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Originally Posted by Ph8te

It wasnt for most fo the day, it appears someone may have let this slip a little early.....
I think it's called pr
post #2962 of 3635
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Originally Posted by thespacecowboy View Post
I think it's called pr
Mehhh, Not much in that vid that wasnt already known. The software still looked like the Beta version. so it didnt give much info. To tell the truth there are a number of videos just like it from others that were at CES, the only real difference was this was an in house video.

BTW for those that missed it:

post #2963 of 3635
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post
It wasnt for most fo the day, it appears someone may have let this slip a little early.....

This one worked for me.

post #2964 of 3635
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Originally Posted by anthonykappa View Post
Will the boxee box be able to decode aac 5.1 to pcm 5.1 or ac3?
Anyone?
post #2965 of 3635
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Originally Posted by anthonykappa View Post
Anyone?
Have you taken a look at the 1st page?
post #2966 of 3635
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Originally Posted by Ph8te

Mehhh, Not much in that vid that wasnt already known. The software still looked like the Beta version. so it didnt give much info. To tell the truth there are a number of videos just like it from others that were at CES, the only real difference was this was an in house video.

BTW for those that missed it:

It's pr for a video to go up for a number of hours and then mysteriously disappear later on in the day. Apple are the kings of it...
post #2967 of 3635
[quote=enlightenment;19462849]This one worked for me.

[quote]

Looks like we posted at the same time The same video was posted twice, this one and the TigerDirectBlog one...Wonder if this will meet the same fate?
post #2968 of 3635
No ship notice yet, how late does amazon ship out?
post #2969 of 3635
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post
Have you taken a look at the 1st page?
I saw this point ...

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Lossless audio support, 2 channel downmix and PCM output (09/13/10). Boxee has very robust audio support including support for bitstream and 2 channel stereo down-mix of DTS-HD and Dolby-True formats (for 2 channel down-mix of DTS-HD, the DTS core is used). Also supports PCM 5.1 and 7.1 formats. Does not support decode to LPCM of DTS-HD, requires licensing.
... but wasn't sure if it answered my question :S Sorry
post #2970 of 3635
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Originally Posted by anthonykappa View Post
I saw this point ...



... but wasn't sure if it answered my question :S Sorry
No need to apologize, Ac3 is a "standard" and I wouldnt expect any problems, I dont think you should see any issues with aac 5.1 either. PCM was anwsered in the 1st post. The ones you would have to worry the most about are the HD formats and the obscure codecs (both video and audio). This is just MOHO though we wont know the true answers until tomorrow.

~22 hours all will be answered hopefully. If you lucky and are goign to the event or know someone who is, you may want to pass along some questions to them.
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