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post #1231 of 9371
11/18/10 at 9:16am
I have been struggling trying to get my Harmony working correctly. Can you do this in the Harmony software....cut and paste?

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For those who program an all in one remote, that Xcel sheet is freakin huge, we can just copy and paste the codes to our remote programming software fast and efficiently instead of having to learn the codes directly from the supplied remote, which makes things more difficult and time consuming...
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post #1232 of 9371
11/18/10 at 10:52am
^^^

not that i'm aware of...

however, you can send the hex codes to harmony support by email and they will add them to your profile for you...
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post #1233 of 9371
11/18/10 at 4:20pm
update for urc users, and a question for those who downloaded the new ir codes...

question first: anything "good" pop up?

update: all of the sirius serial commands work correctly... both directional and direct tune... surround mode codes are still a bit of a mystery...

user update: i'm very happy i made this purchase... not to jinx us, but it appears that dm got this unit pretty well sorted out before release...
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post #1234 of 9371
11/18/10 at 6:01pm
Sounds like a pretty well-behaved unit. In addition to the IR code update, folks might be interested to see that Outlaw has updated their guide and unlocked it (so you can print a copy). Handy for both existing owners and anybody thinking about buying. Here's the post from Outlaw on their site:

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For those who own, or are considering the purchase of a Marantz AV 7005, we have just released version 1.1 of the Outlaws' Guide to that product. As we indicated previously, this is a "living document', and as we learn more from our customers’ questions and field experiences we will continue to provide updates to the Guide that address these common stumbling blocks. In version 1.1, you will find that we have modified the "Tips and Tricks", "Introduction to Inputs", as well as the "Audio Formats and Listening Modes" sections of the Guide.

Finally, for potential purchasers of this processor, we have decided to "unlock" the Guide so that it can now be printed at home. For those that purchase an AV 7005 from us, we will continue to include a bound copy of the Guide.

We realize of course, that anyone can take our work on the Guide and use it to make a buying decision at a number of alternate retailers. We have made this decision in the hope that many potential purchasers will appreciate the efforts we have taken and will know that in product support, no one will exceed our efforts to provide a great customer experience.
Also, the file itself can be found on their AV7005 page.
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post #1235 of 9371
11/18/10 at 6:03pm
Good news!

Jim, thanks.
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post #1236 of 9371
11/18/10 at 7:14pm
I feel stupid asking this question....

I unboxed the Marantz tonight and can't seem to get a monitor out signal to my projector. My reason for needing to use the monitor out to get an image is my planar 8150 and marantz aren't able to sync up via HDMI...which I'm not shocked, since the Denon 4810 wouldn't either (so I would split the signal...out to planar and separate to the receiver/processor). I'd like to use the on-screen menu to conduct the set-up via the monitor out signal. I went through the manual, but I couldn't find what I maybe missing resolving this issue.

Any help would be appreciated

Ron
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post #1237 of 9371
11/18/10 at 7:41pm
^Things that come to mind:


-The AV7005 has two HDMI outs but they won't work simultaneously. You can toggle between the two with the front panel button "HDMI OUT".

-Once selected the switch may take 10 seconds or more so you have to be patient.

-Only the first one has ARC but I recommend you turn this off unless you are utilizing this feature.

- Some HDMI gear including monitors and switching or relaying devices are sensitive to turn on order. With three devices such as a source, the AV7005, and a video monitor there are 6 permutations as to turn on sequence. You may have to try all six.

- Incoming component and composite signals will pass through and not be converted to HDMI unless you have the menu page function "video convert" turned on.

- On screen displays and the GUI will only superimpose (overlay) if video conversion is turned on and will work for component out or HDMI out but not both simultaneously.

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so I would split the signal
Not sure what you mean, but if you mean you put the HDMI signal through a passive "Y cord", that is a no-no. Even multiple out HDMI distribution boxes often aren't very friendly and you really should try to stick to switches (like the A/B one in this prepro) and never have simultaneous, parallel HDMI paths.
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post #1238 of 9371
11/18/10 at 10:35pm
Not sure if any of you face this problem but here's the scenario.

My CD player is connected to the CD input while my Bluray player is connected to the BD input. I have my CD player playing music under CD input and the bluray player power is off. Everything goes well. The moment I switch on my bluray player while the CD player is still playing music under CD input, the music starts to skip. It is not the CD player skipping but the input connection problem on the AV amp. And the moment I switched off my bluray player, the skipping stops and the music continues playing without any problem. Is this normal or my AV7005 has a problem? Please advise..
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post #1239 of 9371
11/19/10 at 2:50am
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

^Things that come to mind:


-The AV7005 has two HDMI outs but they won't work simultaneously. You can toggle between the two with the front panel button "HDMI OUT".

-Once selected the switch may take 10 seconds or more so you have to be patient.

-Only the first one has ARC but I recommend you turn this off unless you are utilizing this feature.

- Some HDMI gear including monitors and switching or relaying devices are sensitive to turn on order. With three devices such as a source, the AV7005, and a video monitor there are 6 permutations as to turn on sequence. You may have to try all six.

- Incoming component and composite signals will pass through and not be converted to HDMI unless you have the menu page function "video convert" turned on.

- On screen displays and the GUI will only superimpose (overlay) if video conversion is turned on and will work for component out or HDMI out but not both simultaneously.



Not sure what you mean, but if you mean you put the HDMI signal through a passive "Y cord", that is a no-no. Even multiple out HDMI distribution boxes often aren't very friendly and you really should try to stick to switches (like the A/B one in this prepro) and never have simultaneous, parallel HDMI paths.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.

I am not trying to get an HDMI signal to the projector. The Planar is too finicky for the distance between the equipment closet and the projector.


I am trying to get a internal menu signal out of the monitor out, so I can calibrate the receiver using an on screen menu. Once it's calibrated, I won't be passing any video signals through the Marantz. When I would calibrate the Denon, I had to resort to a composite signal out of the menu only to the Planar...so I would just run a composite cable from the Denon's monitor out to the Planar directly...then I'd be able to see the GUI through the Planar. Once the receiver was calibrated, I'd pull the comp. connection and go back to using the Denon for audio only (without running the video through the Denon).
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post #1240 of 9371
11/19/10 at 5:20am
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Not sure if any of you face this problem but here's the scenario.

My CD player is connected to the CD input while my Bluray player is connected to the BD input. I have my CD player playing music under CD input and the bluray player power is off. Everything goes well. The moment I switch on my bluray player while the CD player is still playing music under CD input, the music starts to skip. It is not the CD player skipping but the input connection problem on the AV amp. And the moment I switched off my bluray player, the skipping stops and the music continues playing without any problem. Is this normal or my AV7005 has a problem? Please advise..

is the cd player connected analog or digital? if digital, hdmi or spdif?

i just tried to replicate your problem, and it doesn't happen for me... all my connections are hdmi though... ps3 to bd input, and oppo to dvd input...

just out of curiosity. do you have hdmi control turned on? any "interesting" wiring combinations (i.e. digital out of the cd player to one input, analog to another)?
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post #1241 of 9371
11/19/10 at 5:27am
Hi

Is the Airplay feature available for the Marantz yet? I did a firmware update but cannot see the Marantz on my iMac in the iTunes. I am able to run my music through the Marantz using a DLNA server on the iMac (TVMobile) but not run music from the iTunes to the Marantz. How do I install the Airplay on the Marantz. The New features check through the receiver does not show up anything.
The Wizz App is working through my iPhone after the firmware update.

Thanks

ppr
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post #1242 of 9371
11/19/10 at 5:32am
@ron....

IF i'm reading the table on page 108 correctly, it appears as if you can't display the menu over composite... only component or hdmi....

and it appears you will only get the menu out over component if you use scenario 8...
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post #1243 of 9371
11/19/10 at 5:35am
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Hi

Is the Airplay feature available for the Marantz yet? I did a firmware update but cannot see the Marantz on my iMac in the iTunes. I am able to run my music through the Marantz using a DLNA server on the iMac (TVMobile) but not run music from the iTunes to the Marantz. How do I install the Airplay on the Marantz. The New features check through the receiver does not show up anything.
The Wizz App is working through my iPhone after the firmware update.

Thanks

ppr
november 25th is the latest word for airplay availability... from a post in this thread...

clicky
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post #1244 of 9371
11/19/10 at 6:19am
I have read just about every post in this thread and haven't really come across any bugs associated with the AV7005. Is this true? The reason I ask is because it seems as if the Denon line of high end receivers is quite the opposite. Or is it just too early in this products life for the bugs to have come out?
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post #1245 of 9371
11/19/10 at 6:29am
^^^

well, i would hazard a guess that if there were bugs that have been come across, someone would have brought them up.... avs posters aren't exactly known for holding back their criticism...

that being said:

1) there doesn't appear to be a lot of them out in the wild yet. so as more dribble out, there may be some issues that the "early adopters" haven't found yet.

2) as we used to say in the old days of software development, "there's no such thing as bug free software, just bugs the user hasn't found yet"... so who knows what might happen down the line...

so the best that i could say at this point is, "i personally haven't come across any bugs, and it appears as if no one else has, but that doesn't mean that some won't crop up"....

how's that for a non-committal answer?
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post #1246 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:08am
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^^^

well, i would hazard a guess that if there were bugs that have been come across, someone would have brought them up.... avs posters aren't exactly known for holding back their criticism...

that being said:

1) there doesn't appear to be a lot of them out in the wild yet. so as more dribble out, there may be some issues that the "early adopters" haven't found yet.

2) as we used to say in the old days of software development, "there's no such thing as bug free software, just bugs the user hasn't found yet"... so who knows what might happen down the line...

so the best that i could say at this point is, "i personally haven't come across any bugs, and it appears as if no one else has, but that doesn't mean that some won't crop up"....

how's that for a non-committal answer?
LOL! Well played sir.

On the bright side it didn't take long for the 4311ci bugs to come to fruition. Must be a good sign at the very least that the AV7005 appears to be "reliable" without any glaring issues or bugs.
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post #1247 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:15am
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is the cd player connected analog or digital? if digital, hdmi or spdif?

i just tried to replicate your problem, and it doesn't happen for me... all my connections are hdmi though... ps3 to bd input, and oppo to dvd input...

just out of curiosity. do you have hdmi control turned on? any "interesting" wiring combinations (i.e. digital out of the cd player to one input, analog to another)?
Well, the CD player is connected analog via RCAs. It's strange as when I turn the situation the other way round (means my bluray player is playing movies while the CD player is switched on), there is no such problem. Thanks for testing this out for me.
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post #1248 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:17am
SR7005/AV7005 are based off Denon 3311ci so they had more time to iron out bugs with them. 4311ci seems to be a different, newer design.
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post #1249 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:32am
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LOL! Well played sir.

On the bright side it didn't take long for the 4311ci bugs to come to fruition. Must be a good sign at the very least that the AV7005 appears to be "reliable" without any glaring issues or bugs.
20 years of marriage has trained me to always leave myself a way out....

true dat. one could certainly make a bit of an assumption that the immediate issues that the 4311 owners are having (audio drops, "blue rain", etc.) likely would have manifested themselves by now...
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post #1250 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:33am
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Well, the CD player is connected analog via RCAs. It's strange as when I turn the situation the other way round (means my bluray player is playing movies while the CD player is switched on), there is no such problem. Thanks for testing this out for me.
you are welcome...

wonder what's up with that? we could probably isolate the issue if you want to spend the time to do so...
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post #1251 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:47am
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wiw (re 1218);

Again; you don't understand the problem. You speak as if the current in the shield can be corrupted by RF or AC hum without affecting the current in the center conductor. This is simply not possible! The current flows in a LOOP, through both conductors; it is ONE AND THE SAME current, and anything that modifies the current in the shield also corrupts the current in the center conductor equally and simultaneously!

The simple fact is that you will NEVER find an unbalanced connection in a recording studio or a TRUE high-end audio system, because those who understand the problems of unbalanced cables don't want anything to do with them. The sad fact is that unbalanced connectors persist in even most high-end audio equipment because it is far more expensive to implement all-balanced circuitry in the equipment, and cost is always an issue. Also, even designers who DO design all-balanced equipment face the fact that the consumers who have some balanced and some unbalanced gear won't buy the gear unless connectivity is provided for both. In other words, the marketing and sales concerns tend to trump the engineering concerns most of the time.

My own 40 years of listening to audio systems has convinced ME that 90% of the time there is an improvement that is clearly audible when balanced connections are substituted for unbalanced ones. I have also personally experienced certain situations where the unbalanced connections between a particular Component A and Component B are very sensitive to which model/brand/configuration of unbalanced cable pair is used; dramatic differences in sound quality. Some combinations of gear are very sensitive to this and other combinations much less so. WHO NEEDS THIS UNWANTED VARIABLE?

Using a balanced connection eliminates this variability; every balanced connection gives perfect performance every time. This is why recording engineers and other knowledgeable audio professionals want nothing to do with unbalanced connections; they are an unwanted variable that can create sonic problems. This is simply UNACCEPTABLE when perfect performance in every connection every time is the standard that must be maintained.
Well, you seemed to have convinced me that balanced is the way to go but I'd like to know more details about the benefits of XLRs if you can help me out here. I'm currently using 1M RCAs for all 5 channels on my AV7005/MM7055 setup. My local dealer has told me that if I want to switch to balanced, I will achieve better sonic improvements if the balance cables are at least 1.5M and above. Now from a layman understanding, I thought the shorter the cables, the better it would sound? Is he saying that a 1.5M balanced cable will sound better than a 1.0M of similar cables? My unit is probably just about 50hrs and not the 100hrs that most owners here have suggested to run in. I know I need more time to run in, but at present moment, the sound is still very harsh especially in the area of dialog on the center channel. It still doesnt sound warm and smooth as I want them to be. Question is, will changing to balanced cables able to improve the sound in this area? Or is it still a matter of running in to at least 100hrs? For movies, the details and channel separation has improved tremendously over my previous receiver but the dialog is still very harsh sounding and it really bothers me. If by switching to balanced cables can eliminate this problem and achieve better sonic improvements overall, I intend to switch my front 3 channels to balanced while maintaining RCAs for my surround. (Cant afford to switch all 5 for now)
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post #1252 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:52am
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Well, you seemed to have convinced me that balanced is the way to go but I'd like to know more details about the benefits of XLRs if you can help me out here. I'm currently using 1M RCAs for all 5 channels on my AV7005/MM7055 setup. My local dealer has told me that if I want to switch to balanced, I will achieve better sonic improvements if the balance cables are at least 1.5M and above. Now from a layman understanding, I thought the shorter the cables, the better it would sound? Is he saying that a 1.5M balanced cable will sound better than a 1.0M of similar cables? My unit is probably just about 50hrs and not the 100hrs that most owners here have suggested to run in. I know I need more time to run in, but at present moment, the sound is still very harsh especially in the area of dialog on the center channel. It still doesnt sound warm and smooth as I want them to be. Question is, will changing to balanced cables able to improve the sound in this area? Or is it still a matter of running in to at least 100hrs? For movies, the details and channel separation has improved tremendously over my previous receiver but the dialog is still very harsh sounding and it really bothers me. If by switching to balanced cables can eliminate this problem and achieve better sonic improvements overall, I intend to switch my front 3 channels to balanced while maintaining RCAs for my surround. (Cant afford to switch all 5 for now)
He's not saying that you would need to make your balanced cables at least 1.5m...

...he's saying that unless your cables are at least 1.5m you are not likely to experience any improvement.

Or at least, that what he should be saying
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post #1253 of 9371
11/19/10 at 7:58am
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Well, you seemed to have convinced me that balanced is the way to go but I'd like to know more details about the benefits of XLRs if you can help me out here. I'm currently using 1M RCAs for all 5 channels on my AV7005/MM7055 setup. My local dealer has told me that if I want to switch to balanced, I will achieve better sonic improvements if the balance cables are at least 1.5M and above. Now from a layman understanding, I thought the shorter the cables, the better it would sound? Is he saying that a 1.5M balanced cable will sound better than a 1.0M of similar cables? My unit is probably just about 50hrs and not the 100hrs that most owners here have suggested to run in. I know I need more time to run in, but at present moment, the sound is still very harsh especially in the area of dialog on the center channel. It still doesnt sound warm and smooth as I want them to be. Question is, will changing to balanced cables able to improve the sound in this area? Or is it still a matter of running in to at least 100hrs? For movies, the details and channel separation has improved tremendously over my previous receiver but the dialog is still very harsh sounding and it really bothers me. If by switching to balanced cables can eliminate this problem and achieve better sonic improvements overall, I intend to switch my front 3 channels to balanced while maintaining RCAs for my surround. (Cant afford to switch all 5 for now)
Not to start a thread about all things that are debated on AVS on a regular basis:

1)electronics don't need a "burn in period"..speakers maybe since there are moving parts or Plasma TVs because of the nature of the design...but not many people believe an electronic board needs any burn in time (this was also confirmed by an engineer over from Paradigm/Anthem who posted as much on the new MRX thread recently).

2)Balanced cables help with rejected noise and interference...the longer the run the more likely an unbalanced cable could pick up such noise

3)You can buy quality balanced cables from several vendors at a very reasonable price...just because the cable sells for $100 does not mean it is built any better or sounds any better

4)What variables changed ..in other words did you feel the center channel sounded "warm and smooth" with your previous gear...or is the speaker new as well. If only the electronics changed then you could have a defective unit???
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post #1254 of 9371
11/19/10 at 8:00am
I ordered some balanced cables yesterday. I've never used XLRs before, so I'll let you know if they make an audible difference. I seriously doubt they will "color" the sound any though. I bought them in hopes that they would clear up a slight ground loop issue.
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post #1255 of 9371
11/19/10 at 8:04am
+1 to all 4 of frohlich's points (especially the first un-numbered one)... it would be nice if we could keep the extraneous arguments out and keep the discussion at least reasonably focused on the product itself...

note to royrogers... if you don't quote him, those of us who have him on ignore won't have to read his posts...
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post #1256 of 9371
11/19/10 at 8:17am
I have been reading the manual and the Outlaw guide and had a quick clarification question. I don't have this unit yet but will get it when it comes to Canada (end of this month?).

Are you able to set up the video processing so it only processes certain inputs ie DVD player coming from one input (via HDMI) and not the PS3 from another input (also HDMI)?

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post #1257 of 9371
11/19/10 at 8:23am
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@ron....

IF i'm reading the table on page 108 correctly, it appears as if you can't display the menu over composite... only component or hdmi....

and it appears you will only get the menu out over component if you use scenario 8...
Thanks for the assitance. Too bad, but it does look like the Marantz does not pass on the menu screen via composite monitor out.

Ron
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post #1258 of 9371
11/19/10 at 8:25am
Thanks ccotenj
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11/19/10 at 12:07pm
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Are you able to set up the video processing so it only processes certain inputs ie DVD player coming from one input (via HDMI) and not the PS3 from another input (also HDMI)?

Yes - the video settings are stored separately for each input, including whether you bypass the video processing and what resolution you want to output when you are using the video processing.
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post #1260 of 9371
11/19/10 at 12:21pm
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Hi

Is the Airplay feature available for the Marantz yet? I did a firmware update but cannot see the Marantz on my iMac in the iTunes. I am able to run my music through the Marantz using a DLNA server on the iMac (TVMobile) but not run music from the iTunes to the Marantz. How do I install the Airplay on the Marantz. The New features check through the receiver does not show up anything.
The Wizz App is working through my iPhone after the firmware update.

Thanks

ppr

There will be a $49 upcharge for this feature.

Hot off the press from Marantz (I'm a dealer):
Airplay
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