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post #1561 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Cliff Olson View Post

I think I will un-box my old drum set and see if a cymbal boom has the same threading. That would be a nice solution to the mic placement, as they're almost infinitely adjustable.

I thought about that yesterday too. I have a drum set as well, and I was wondering if one of the booms can be used. I did a quick search on CL yesterday too and found several sellers of tripods. Found two who were selling some for 5 bucks. Can't go wrong with that.
post #1562 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Cliff Olson View Post

That's the way I have always done it. I wont invest in a worthless tripod (I'm not a photographer) just for the sake of being a "purist". I'm sure there are "flaws" with doing it this way, but it certainly works.

I tape the microphone to the one end of the vacuum cleaner extension. Then I place the other end between the sat cushion and the seat back of the couch.
That places the mic at ear level and yields good results in my small room.
post #1563 of 9371
I hope you've turned off your vacuum - could mess up the readings!
post #1564 of 9371
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I hope you've turned off your vacuum - could mess up the readings!



That was funny ...lol

but since the vacumn is at a steady 250hz it only messed up a small spectrum
post #1565 of 9371
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

geez, i'm jealous. that's over half the square footage of my entire house!

we hope for pictures...

Instead of posting pics here and getting off topic, I have just started a build thread with the requested pics included You can find them here....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1294997...
post #1566 of 9371
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I hope you've turned off your vacuum - could mess up the readings!

Even w/ the vacuum cleaner turned off, I could imagine the extension tube resonating like an organ pipe.

AJ
post #1567 of 9371
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I hope you've turned off your vacuum - could mess up the readings!

I found the best results for Audessey was having a Tibetan midget hang upside from the ceiling and hold the microphone between their upper lip and their nose. All the other attempts using wildlife and farm implements yielded sup par Audessey results. I'm just saying.
post #1568 of 9371
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Originally Posted by penngray View Post

That is 100% your choice. Some hate processing (A-D or D-A conversions, etc) others like that the processing corrects issues with speakers and room. The best you can do is to understand the compromises of going either route and just pick one.

The way you phrase that, imho, is a little misleading. The number of A-D-A conversions is the same either way. Some prefer to have D/A done in the player and let the rest be all analog. Some prefer to send the digital output of the player and let the AVR/prepro do the conversion, with or without doing room correction. I discussed these options a bit more extensively at: http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-44
post #1569 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Cliff Olson View Post

I think I will un-box my old drum set and see if a cymbal boom has the same threading. That would be a nice solution to the mic placement, as they're almost infinitely adjustable.

Sounds like a good idea.The threading is a standard in consumer photography/videography called 1/4 20 (1/4 inch diameter with 20 threads per inch) but duct taping it will work just as well at the end of your boom; this is after all a one time setup and looks don't count. [1/4 20 threaded rods of various lengths can also be purchased at Home Depot and other hardware stores for a few bucks, if anyone cares.]

Precise aiming of this kind of mic is entirely unnecessary, reasonable "straight up" is all you need, but I would recommend the boom arm travel downward steeply and not cross the direct path of any of the speakers, especially the front ones which are by far the most important, so as to avoid reflections.
post #1570 of 9371
Strange one.. My fronts are Mirage OM-6's - powered and their range is 18Hz-22kHz.

So why does the Marantz set them as Small/100Hz?
post #1571 of 9371
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Originally Posted by wilbur_the_goose View Post

Strange one.. My fronts are Mirage OM-6's - powered and their range is 18Hz-22kHz.

So why does the Marantz set them as Small/100Hz?

Probably because there is a roll-off in that range when they are in their present position. Try repositioning. (BTW, that spec is useless unless it includes +/- limits.)
post #1572 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Cliff Olson View Post

I think I will un-box my old drum set and see if a cymbal boom has the same threading. That would be a nice solution to the mic placement, as they're almost infinitely adjustable.

I used the tripod which holds my snare drum. I simply adjust the height to where I want, place the tripod on the couch, and set the microphone on the center portion where the three drug holding arms come together.

This worked well for my 3808, which used Audyssey.

It is not as good as a Tibetan midget (which is the recommended way to do it according to the Audyssey people), but it works well.
post #1573 of 9371
I've found that the Tibetan midget approach only works well with the RCA Original Cast recording of Hello, Dalai!.
post #1574 of 9371
Can anyone who has dealt with One Call's online barter system PM me and advise of what the standard e-mail reply back is after you submit a price?

I got a weird e-mail thanking me for my price request and was advised that I would be contacted when the AV7005 reaches my price.

Is this their way of telling me that it was not accepted?
post #1575 of 9371
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I've found that the Tibetan midget approach only works well with the RCA Original Cast recording of Hello, Dalai!.

one keyboard down the drain... that was good...

@micro... nice!! keep it updated, i'll be following...
post #1576 of 9371
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Originally Posted by vvv View Post

Can anyone who has dealt with One Call's online barter system PM me and advise of what the standard e-mail reply back is after you submit a price?

I got a weird e-mail thanking me for my price request and was advised that I would be contacted when the AV7005 reaches my price.

Is this their way of telling me that it was not accepted?

The thank you email is just an automated email that you get within minutes of submitting a bid just confirming that they received the bid. You should receive another email which I PMd a copy to you of them accepting the bid.
post #1577 of 9371
Hello. Can anyone tell me for sure whether this new pre/pro will decode DSD, so I can send multi-ch. SACD through HDMI? I can't seem to find the answer.

If it doesn't, I may have to go with a new receiver that does.

I have a SOny5400ES whose only multi-ch. output is HDMI.

Thanks!
post #1578 of 9371
No, the Marantz AV-7005 does not decode DSD.

My Oppo 83 converts DSD to PCM and it's sent to the Marantz via HDMI and my
SACDs have never sounded better!
post #1579 of 9371
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
o dvd-a - yes, a bit more difficult

link to a "how-to"?
post #1580 of 9371
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

one keyboard down the drain... that was good...

@micro... nice!! keep it updated, i'll be following...

I make the original Tibetan midget crack and his response gets all the Kudos?? Fine...I am taking my soccer ball and playing in my yard..I don't need you guys
post #1581 of 9371
ok. I've been reading more of this thread, and thanks for the reply.

So, it won't accepot dsd via HDMI, but it accepts SACD over HDMI if it's already been converted to PCM. AND you guys seem to feel that it's no loss and sounds just as good, right?

So now I have to find out if the Sony 5400ES will transcode it to pcm itself...hmm.

Denon's 4311 AVR (and I think similarly-priced avr's from Pioneer Elite and Marantz, but not sure) will decode DSD. I don't understand why a pre/pro would not have it, as some of you have said..
post #1582 of 9371
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Originally Posted by hifichip76 View Post

So now I have to find out if the Sony 5400ES will transcode it to pcm itself...hmm.

I think that the 5400ES will do that automatically if the processor won't accept DSD. Kal may be able to confirm or not, and at what rate.
post #1583 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I make the original Tibetan midget crack and his response gets all the Kudos?? Fine...I am taking my soccer ball and playing in my yard..I don't need you guys

crybaby...

ok, ok, the original crack was good too... i was off having myself a hissy fit when you posted it, so i didn't respond...

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Originally Posted by hifichip76 View Post

ok. I've been reading more of this thread, and thanks for the reply.

So, it won't accepot dsd via HDMI, but it accepts SACD over HDMI if it's already been converted to PCM. AND you guys seem to feel that it's no loss and sounds just as good, right?

So now I have to find out if the Sony 5400ES will transcode it to pcm itself...hmm.

Denon's 4311 AVR (and I think similarly-priced avr's from Pioneer Elite and Marantz, but not sure) will decode DSD. I don't understand why a pre/pro would not have it, as some of you have said..

yes, it sounds "just as good"... as long as the dsd decoder isn't broken, it doesn't matter where it's done...

likely because it's not really "necessary" in the grand scheme of things... i've never had a player that DIDN'T decode dsd to pcm... not saying there isn't one... but i've never come across one... edit: i guess that sony likes to prove me wrong...

unless a component has a direct dsd to analog dac (which isn't overly common), the datastream is always going to get converted to pcm anyway...
post #1584 of 9371
^^^^

how is SACD from Sony 370, 470, 570 over HDMI handled by AV7005?
post #1585 of 9371
I see. Well, I'm not sure what to buy. But I can't regret buying the 5400es, because it's stereo outs give me the very best sound I've ever had in my system. As a stereo cd/sacd player alone, it's worth it. I also have my Denon 3910 (and 2900) uni-players for multi-ch. analog duties. I just thought I'd maximize wherever I can...

I'm wondering how this pre/pro, using the amp section of my Denon avr-3801 would sound (until I get new amps) compared to an Elite sc37, Marantz avr or Denon 4311/Anniversary...?
post #1586 of 9371
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Originally Posted by jcpom View Post

^^^^

how is SACD from Sony 370, 470, 570 over HDMI handled by AV7005?

a quick perusal of the 370 manual indicates that it will decode dsd to pcm... so there should be no issues...
post #1587 of 9371
AV7005 being advertised at $1198 on audiogon.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....5-Audyssey-Mul
post #1588 of 9371
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Originally Posted by hifichip76 View Post

I see. Well, I'm not sure what to buy. But I can't regret buying the 5400es, because it's stereo outs give me the very best sound I've ever had in my system. As a stereo cd/sacd player alone, it's worth it.

surfing thru Kal's writings, I edited my post, so you may want to take another look and we'll both wait for him to reply.
post #1589 of 9371
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Originally Posted by roadster-s View Post

I think that the 5400ES will do that automatically if the processor won't accept DSD. Kal may be able to confirm or not, and at what rate.

The XA5400ES has no menu/controls to determine whether it will send out DSD or PCM. It switches output in response to the EDID it gets from whatever is on the other end of the HDMI cable. It does this automatically although I have come across a few processors that confused it (but that was fixed with firmware updates). It will also send the PCM bitrate that the receiver can accept, either 88.2 or 176.4.
post #1590 of 9371
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

The XA5400ES has no menu/controls to determine whether it will send out DSD or PCM. It switches output in response to the EDID it gets from whatever is on the other end of the HDMI cable. It does this automatically although I have come across a few processors that confused it (but that was fixed with firmware updates). It will also send the PCM bitrate that the receiver can accept, either 88.2 or 176.4.

Thanks Kal. So which rate would the AV7005 use? I'm seriously looking at purchasing one of the last units still available to replace my old friend, the Denon DVD-2900. Do you think that I will hear much improvement in faithful reproduction with this combo? Guess the answer is yes because it will benefit from Audyssey's adjustments.
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