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post #241 of 9615
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Originally Posted by unclemat View Post

You will be, Oppo will convert DSD to PCM and send it this way over HDMI.

^^

Thank you!
post #242 of 9615
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Originally Posted by Minge View Post

When I change over to the AV7005 and feed the AV7005 only an HDMI connection from my OPPO and pop in an SACD knowing the AV7005 does not support DSD over HDMI will it I be able to play SACD's over HDMI at all? If is the sequence in which the disc is read and processed?

I've spent a lot of time with the BDP-83. I can tell you now that even if you don't remember to tell the BDP-83 to output PCM instead of DSD, if it is connected to a processor that can't handle DSD, the player will override the DSD setting and provide PCM. It will work fine. I'd recommend taking a minute to set the SACD output to PCM instead of DSD, but that's just me being picky about settings.
post #243 of 9615
AIUI the issue of DSD vs PCM is complicated by the fact that some players downconvert to 96khz or even 48khz when converting internally from DSD to PCM. With those players you really want to be outputting DSD if you can.

The Oppo's convert at 176.4/192khz don't they gonk?

The manuals of the latest Sony and Marantz universal players do not say what they convert DSD to....wonder if that's good news or bad.
post #244 of 9615
The OPPO players do 88.1kHz, I believe. The original universal BD players from Denon only did 44.1 kHz PCM unless you used DenonLink.
post #245 of 9615
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Originally Posted by gonk View Post

The OPPO players do 88.1kHz, I believe. The original universal BD players from Denon only did 44.1 kHz PCM unless you used DenonLink.

So what do players convert at if they don't specifiy?

By rights, it should be at the maximum rate, 176.4khz, and most Sony or Marantz manuals I've read include info in the small print if their players perform any function at less than maximum specification.
post #246 of 9615
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Originally Posted by linnite View Post

Also, maybe Marantz just decided to accept a lower margin on the 7005? There's a recession on, I hear, maybe they feel an increased need to be competitive.

Not since June of '09.
post #247 of 9615
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Originally Posted by Jwilly019 View Post

Not since June of '09.

Don't speak too soon, you heard of the double dip?

Besides, plenty of belt tightening is still going on - luxury purchases must surely be under continued pressure?
post #248 of 9615
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Originally Posted by linnite View Post

So what do players convert at if they don't specifiy?

By rights, it should be at the maximum rate, 176.4khz, and most Sony or Marantz manuals I've read include info in the small print if their players perform any function at less than maximum specification.

I'm honestly not sure how to predict how a player converts if it doesn't specify. I'm also not sure how to tell how any surround receiver or processor converts it internally - there's no way to see that, since it happens completely internally, and I haven't seen manufacturers document it.
post #249 of 9615
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Originally Posted by linnite View Post

Don't speak too soon, you heard of the double dip?

Besides, plenty of belt tightening is still going on - luxury purchases must surely be under continued pressure?

no double dip....companies are making HUGE profits, sitting on HUGE STACKS OF CASH and can borrow at extremely low rates. IF anything a bubble will happen again once they stop being idiots and stop worrying about anything the buttheads in Washington do (NOTE: both sides are idiots, neither will do the right thing ever. Generallly both are ignored minus the small percentages of the population that likes the banter and fear wasting time watching silly cable networks).

Savings rates are up. Bad debt is getting written off and by the end of 2011 another bubble will form since the Fed created an environment where business can borrow almost for free.

Get use to the > 7% unemployment rate. It has nothing to do with Government or Business (well business could spend money to higher but why would they when they are making record profits!!). Its just business trimming fat and those jobs are lost period. Wait until they start trimming government jobs again. No matter who is in power the unemployment rate will be high until the Baby Boomers stop being counted through attrition.


Back to the topic.....
High cost Audio equipment will not survive. Places like AVS has finally woken up the consumer to the fact that there is little reason to buy a > $2K AVR or Pre/Pro. Study after study has proven that $1K products have the measurements and SQ (real controlled tests proven) so why bother wasting $$$ on something that only effects a small part of the overall system (Ie. Room and speakers dominate the SQ discussion and if you are not spending 4 times more on those you are simply wasting $$$ on the wrong parts of the setup).
post #250 of 9615
People, myself included, are always trying to strike that balance between features and build quality which equals value and what I call "the vast wasteland of diminishing returns" when disposable dollars were plentiful this was not an issue, now you best put a quality piece out a an affordable price or get run over...
post #251 of 9615
Minge, do you have any updates on the AV7005 delivery date?
post #252 of 9615
Nothing that has not already been thrown out. My contact says any time between mid October to early November. I hope, as I am sure we all are, Cedia this week may spoon feed us a bit more information.
post #253 of 9615
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Originally Posted by linnite View Post

Don't speak too soon, you heard of the double dip?

Besides, plenty of belt tightening is still going on - luxury purchases must surely be under continued pressure?

Luxury purchase? You Brits are far more like the French than you'll ever admit.
post #254 of 9615
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Originally Posted by mrjktcvs View Post

Luxury purchase? You Brits are far more like the French than you'll ever admit.

I'm sorry to say this has gone right over my head - I'd genuinely like to know what you mean!
post #255 of 9615
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Originally Posted by linnite View Post

I'm sorry to say this has gone right over my head - I'd genuinely like to know what you mean!

I don't think there are too many hobbyists in the AVS forum that consider buying HT equipment to be "luxury purchases". We need them to feed our habit and stay sane....LOL

I was introduced to that term while living in France 20 years ago, where they deemed automobiles to be "luxury" items, giving the government an excuse to charge a VAT of 25%....yeesh....It was no wonder why the top selling vehicles in much of Europe at the time were the bottom-of-the-line strippo models (think Renault 5), whereas in the U.S. and Japan, the top selling cars are decidedly more upscale.
post #256 of 9615
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Originally Posted by mrjktcvs View Post

I don't think there are too many hobbyists in the AVS forum that consider buying HT equipment to be "luxury purchases". We need them to feed our habit and stay sane....LOL

I was introduced to that term while living in France 20 years ago, where they deemed automobiles to be "luxury" items, giving the government an excuse to charge a VAT of 25%....yeesh....It was no wonder why the top selling vehicles in much of Europe at the time were the bottom-of-the-line strippo models (think Renault 5), whereas in the U.S. and Japan, the top selling cars are decidedly more upscale.

You got that right - feeble excuses to rip us off some more, still happening to this day. In parts of the UK you can get fined £100 if your bin ('garbage can') lid is partially open (due to the bin being too full) when you put it out for collection.

So yeah, maybe we are like the French.
post #257 of 9615
.."stay sane"...??? Too late!
post #258 of 9615
Hay guys I have the new 7005 and I have had it hooked up for about 1 month so far and love it. I had the 8001 THX receiver but wanted to see what the new one was all about. Not one problem and I love the internet stuff. They already have a firmware update that i did an it worked great. I dont no what it did but it worked. If you have any questions about it let me no.
post #259 of 9615
^^^^

WTF

"Hay" if for horses..

"No" is know last time I checked...Some of the spelling including mine needs some serious attention on this forum.

Not sure what 7005 you have been using for 1 month but it is not the Marantz AV7005 Mr. first post....
post #260 of 9615
He probably has the SR7005 and did not read this thread carefully enough to realize that it is about the AV7005. I blame Marantz for his confusion. Their choice of names is going to confuse more people.
post #261 of 9615
soooooooo... no dog on news about this baby from cedia???
post #262 of 9615
I really want to buy this pre/pro as well, it sucks we have to wait so long for it to come out. I wish Marantz would give us a solid release date, my $ is burning a hole in my pocket
post #263 of 9615
I learned my lesson with the Onkyo Pro 885... I will listen to it first, before I buy it.
post #264 of 9615
me too, love my 885
post #265 of 9615
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

me too, love my 885

Not sure if you understood me correctly, but to each his own
post #266 of 9615
Any word yet on a release date on this processor?
post #267 of 9615
On 9/20, I was told by Marantz - the end of October.
post #268 of 9615
if that were the case, that is only a month away. surely they would let distributors know they can take pre-orders by now. my local dealer hasn't heard a peep from marantz yet. i've been checking on this daily now and am getting impatient. all i want is a date. thats it! too much to ask?
post #269 of 9615
I've already placed a pre-order with a Marantz authorized Internet dealer.
post #270 of 9615
at CEDIA, I was told that the initial shipment was on the boat. That narrows it down to 2 to 5 weeks till we see them in our theaters.
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