Marantz AV7005 - Page 260

Sure and the oft discussed cloned nature of a particular denon receiver model with xt32 suggests the 7005 would be a candidate in the very unlikely scenario that an upgrade or mid cycle refresh of the same chassis was contemplated.

I agree it's 99.99% likely NOT to happen for business reasons, rather than tech reasons. A shame but it is what it is.

Please let's not open the whole clone/not clone issue again.

But just to clarify, the model so similar to the 7005 is the Denon AVR 3311 (MultEQXT), not the 4311/A100 (MultEQXT32). And there are NO upgrade plans to add XT32 to the 3311.

7005 owners who would like to enjoy the SQ benefits of XT32 will in all likllhood need to do buy a new model. For DAM products, the reasonable option is the very popular and reliable 4311, which can be placed in PreAmp Mode and comes with a 3yr OEM warranty. Others may chose the Onk 5508 pre/pro (and a cooling fan ). Either is available for about $1.4K AFAIK. With proceeds of the 7005 sale the upgrade should net out at a significantly lower cost than the $1K the XT32/3D hardware/software upgrade cost Denon 5308and AVP1 owners.

Here is some info I received regarding this issue:

The earthquake in Japan caused the Japanese Marantz /Denon factory to sustain major damage. There were about 100 miles from the power plant. No 7005's were produced from February till June 2011. When they did ship, they were allocated month after month. In October, they moved the assembly plant to China with their other receiver line was because they just could not catch-up.

The reality was the boards were all made in China even when the final assembly was in Japan. Since the final assembly was in Japan, it was made in Japan. For that matter, many American made prepro's use Chinese boards."

Mine is sourced from China too - I was disappointed at first, until I started enjoying the sound from it!

Your last point is exactly how I feel!! Also I called marantz and he said the badge is just an assembly point. Most the parts where always made in china just the product was put together in Japan!!

Ok so the test.
Hardware. Av7005/MM7055, ps3, AirPlay from iPhone, Mac mini.

Speakers. B&W cm8. Cm center, cm 1 rears. 5.1

First up radio shack RCA $3.99 6 ft
Good sound with concert type voices. This was my first test so I wasn't sure what to compare it to. But was light years ahead in sound quality of my onkyo 709. Two channel I had nice bass and crisp voice like mentioned before. Great distinction between instruments. For movie same thing up front voices and very crisp.

Next up BJC belden xlr $29.99 4ft

Good sound slightly louder I would say. So -10 on RCA seemed like -15 on xlr. I really can't tell a huge difference to be honest. In all honesty I think the voices might have been cleaner with the RCA. Bass is exactly the same. Not really sure why I am leaning to the RCA setup more then this just something about it was cleaner in terms of crispness. Maybe I need to listen to RCA again.


This is completely my own ears opinion. I could be way off.

Bottom line. If you walked into RadioShack and spent 17 bucks on 5 RCA cables u wouldn't be missing out on something special compared to 150 bucks on 5 xlr. They where so similar I was actually quite surprised I must say I was a skeptic when someone said go to radio shack and buy the cheapest cable. In reality they really where not far off.

Or you could be 100% spot on and the people who claim they can hear differences are the same sort of people who see the Virgin Mary in their grilled cheese sandwhiches and believe in ghosts...because they were taught to think that way from their "expert" gurus they read and trust, since it is the nature of humans to be highly suggestible.

Don't be surprised if you get attacked, ridiculed, or pooh-poohed for either having "inferior hearing" or "inferior gear" by stating your observations as you have; it is their typical response.


Good to know.

I'm surprised you heard any differences at all over that distance... though it definitely should be louder with the XLR since they run at a hotter level.

Lossless music, right?

the difference i heard was me just being picky probably really no difference between the two cords that most people could hear.

yes lossless files downloaded from B&W downloader played via songbird..

i was expecting people to criticize my ears!!! heck i was one who didnt believe people at all when they said get a 4 dollar cable u wont know the difference. Not gonna lie i even own some audioquest gear so i was for sure a sucker not some die hard cheap cable guy.

i was shocked that i literally couldnt hear a difference besides volume and even thought i liked the 4 dollar rca cable better!!!!

Level changes are to be expected when one switches the main 5 speakers' amps, or in your case amp inputs, however keep in mind that if you are switching between the 5 RCAs and XLRs as I would expect you are, the subwoofer's signal level may very well need to be re-calibrated through another auto mic test run each time you switch since you mention having to readjust your master volume.

I was planning on running audessy again cause my sub is off with both cables. lol

How do you get the "Do you wanna upgrade airplay" from coming on every time I power on the unit. I don't have airplay and don't want it.

Menu\\Manual Setup\\Network Setup\\Other\\Upgrade Notification\\ On or Off

Thanks!

@bornacane, thanks a lot. Very helpful indeed and appreciate you going to the effort of listening, changing gear, listening, AND then offering some solid feedback. Kudos!

I upgraded my AV7005 today. Is that an older update? Anyone know what's new?

Yes, please read post# 7750.

Thank you.

Hi guys, just a quick question, does this unit display in detail, on your TV, the type of content it is being fed by the source.? If yes, besides volume, I am interested in seeing on the display the audio codec ( DD, DTS etc) the input type (optical HDMI etc) the colour space ( 4:2:2, RGB ect) and more information if it is available. Is the info displayed available as a one button touch function on the remote?


Thanks

Paul

It does display the info but I am not sure if you can do it with on button touch. I don't have the need for such short cut but I am going to find out out of curiosity.

Thanks avman09, I would really like to know the type of info that is/can be displayed at once on the tv. Could you tell me what the actual displayed info.

Thanks

Paul

Hi all,

Had this posted before, I think it's been updated. Translated from german it's an article on a modified AV7005.

Cheers

http://translate.google.ca/translate...26prmd%3Dimvns

Given a choice, I would actually pay money not to have my AV7005 "modified" by them. Unless of course they start to use the proven Blu-Goop/Foil technologies, an industry standard.

Why? Because in my reference system I'm concerned mostly with 2 ch music reproduction using the most direct, native, pure form possible, since I focus on my gear's ability to faithfully provide pin-point imaging, air, micro details, and a certain, almost intangible "je ne sais quoi" I've heard some others describe as "high frequency sheen decay".

I am not sure what you meant by "displayed at once on the tv...". You can press the "menu" button on the remote and then select information follow by selecting "Audio Input Signal" to display the surround mode, signal, fs, format, offset information or selecting HDMI Information to display resolution, color space, pixel depth on the TV screen. I don't see a way to press a single button to display those information all at once.

^^Thanks, I appreciate the effort. I guess all I really wanted to know is what type of information is displayed on the tv by a single press of a button. Most pre amps and AVR show the volume, source, sound format and even the number of channels - on the units display pannel. Some will also display the same info that is on the panel on the tv. This would come in particularly handy since the 7005 has a hidden front panel that I would perfer to have closed all the time.

Thanks

Paul

So, I got the 7005 all setup and just a few basic questions; at least, I hope they are basic.

1) Ran through the setup and used about 8 locations in the room. When done, all my speaker settings are in the -4 db to -6 db. When I did setups using a db meter, I would set it up such that the quietest speaker was 0db, then went negative for the others...rationalizing that to make all speakers - X db, I would drive the amp unnecessarily.

2) I'd like to keep the auto setup, but make some adjustments. I'd like to bump the center channel +2-3 db to help with watching poorly mixed tv stuff. makes it easier to hear without cranking it up only to be thumped out of your chair when they play music.

3) I'm old, so my high end is hearing capacity is gone. I'd like to bump the treble a bit to compensate. Can I do that or will the system turn off all the fancy eq/time-delay stuff?

Before the 7005, I had the Marantz SR8500 and it sounded great using 5.1 analog outs from the Blu Ray player. I have to say that running on HDMI through the 7005 is no better and I can't say I notice much of an improviement in Audyssey auto-setup over what I had before. I would go further and say that the LFE channel seems to be more off/on using the 7005 versus the SR8500: massive effects filling the roomand then a big hole in the low end making scenes sound hollow.

To run most movies, I'm running at about +8 db. Speakers are 4 ohm Triads.

Having all your speakers at -4 to -6 gives you more headroom so the signal from the 7005 doesn't get clipped. That's a good thing.

@avdork -

a. Are you using the SR7005 or AV7005 as this is the AV7005 thread? The SR7005 isn't designed for 4Ω speakers so you'll likely want to add an external amp that can better handle them.

1. Are you using a tripod or boom mic stand? Is the #1 mic position placed about ear height at your main listening position and at least 2' from a back wall? Were the other 7 mic positions within a 2'-3' radius of the #1 mic position rather than being where people actually sit?

2. Speaker/sub levels can be adjusted using the remote without impacting the Audyssey filters, however, for TV sources especially to produce better center channel dialog you can adjust the Reference Level Offset setting for the cable/sat source to 10db.

3. Treble can be adjusted if Dyn EQ is disabled.

you might want to rethink that...

Probably okay to make this change but note that it will throw off DynEQ a little.


I recommend trying DynEQ and if that doesn't solve it, a little DynVOL may help.


Choose Audyssey flat instead of the default Audyssey, in the setup, and some more of the high end will be present. Default Audyssey has a house curve that gently rolls off the top end.


Are you really running at PLUS 8db on the master volume?